JerseyBills Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) Just some random thoughts Man I'm in tears watching. Was wondering who on here experienced that as an adult or late teen. How did that feel watching live? I think It'd feel like a loved one died. The Bruce play that should've caused a fumble, never remembered that, man so many opportunities , like they said, should've never come down to a kick.. Also how much a SB would've boosted the legacy of these guys, Thurman should be considered 1 of the greatest but rarely gets mentioned for example Also, this O would be perfect for the k gun. Not 100% of the time but maybe 4 5 drives a game. Just a thought, with our personnel Also for Bills fans to show up 30k deep and calling for Scott, was amazing. I'm honored to be a real member of this fan base as an out of towner Ya just some thoughts, that 90 team was awesome! They deserved that 1. 😪 Edited February 26 by JerseyBills 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I was 16 during "wide right" and cried a little. I felt like something went wrong with the universe. There was no scenario going into that game that I thought we could lose. The rally for Scott was special, but after a couple of years it just got so negative. Like the whole world hated us. It was a rougher ride in retrospect than it probably should have been. It wasn't until much later people really started to appreciate what we had accomplished. It was the drought and "Bills Mafia" that made the Bills lovable again. The last one I really thought we were going to win. Having the lead going into the half, after that fumble it felt inevitable that we would lose. I wouldn't trade any of it now. It was honestly the wildest sports ride of my life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I was 18 for the first Super Bowl, 22 for the fourth. Huge Bills fan, still living at home in Buffalo for the first two, then in college. I attended the last one at the Georgia Dome with my dad. We were sure we had that one. It did, indeed, feel like someone important had died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I've seen it before and teared up, was watching it again on Disney+ as it was suggested for things to watch and I am tearing up again...that one always gets me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSHO Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 45 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Also for Bills fans to show up 30k deep and calling for Scott, was amazing. I'm honored to be a real member of this fan base as an out of towner I will argue - while it is a great show of humanity to have a loser parade, if this is the prevailing attitude of management then it makes sense they never got it done. They kept Norwood on thru the following season. While he didn't bite them in the butt at the worst possible moment in 1991 (he tried against the Raiders), I'm sure the players see that and know at an unspoken personal level they're safe if they have an off day too. Not what you need at the most elite level of your profession. Also, I feel this fanbase today would have a bigger turnout for the "awe shoot, we came up short again" parade. It's more about the peppa pig moments and less about the on field results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Suffering Fan Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 There was a time in my son's life where the Bills went to the Super Bowl every single year he was alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 This show got a resurgence now that it is on NetFlix. Amazing that so many more people never saw it. 30 for 30 used to be great 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Would anyone else be low key interested in a Hard Knocks style, BTS documentary on the drought? Any behind the scenes stories/video would be absolutely fascinating. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I tried to watch it when it first came out, I had to tap out a few minutes in. I just couldn't do it, the part that hit me was in the beginning when Bruce said "everytime I watch it, I still think it's gonna go through". I want to try it again now, my sons are teens & only know what I've told them & what they've seen in clips, I guess it's time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I lived every minute of the pain. In fact i lost so much money betting on my Bills to win a SB, that it's a good thing Wegmans has brought out more JA grocery bags for me to pack in whatever i still own into them. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I feel like I could start this thread every week and still get at least 3 pages out of it... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I watched & lived each & every game ! the first game had as much of a impact on me as the day i watched the twin towers come down I can remember exactly where i was & who i was with dressed head to toe in every Bills type of gear i had even my socks had Bills logo on them . Every fan blamed Norwood for losing the game but there was a ton of missed tackles at opportune times by the Bills D that allowed the Giants to stay on the field . Then the fact that if they had gotten just 2 or 3 more yards Norwoods percentage for making th kick went up immensely . I've seen teams with 8 seconds or less go for a out route to get a couple more yards & the Bills had the hurry up & Thurman was killing them that game, i often wondered why they didn't go for 1 more play to get those couple of yards . Does anyone know (i can't remember) if they had any time outs left to where if they did try another play and didn't get out of bounds that they could used a time out ? If so that to me was another screw up by the Bills . I always wonder what if ? And while watching it think will it go win this time but we know that answer . But that is & always will be a huge part of Bills history, to another thing i question is would the Bills have won 1 if Kelly wasn't such a D**K when they drafted him & he went to the other league for the money ? But here we are & i have faith in the team as it is & think that McD & Beane will find a way despite the "Football experts" we have in the Bills Maia . GO BILLS !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 3 hours ago, T master said: Does anyone know (i can't remember) if they had any time outs left to where if they did try another play and didn't get out of bounds that they could used a time out ? If so that to me was another screw up by the Bills . Looks like Kelly spiked the ball with 9 seconds left...that's an eternity in today's game. Full PxP: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199101270buf.htm#all_pbp Linked page does not say when TOs were taken, but I believe the Bills were out of them. I hear Four Falls is a great documentary but I won't watch...too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I've been getting texts from college friends who are not Bills fans asking if I've seen Four Falls. My response: "I lived it." 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 3 minutes ago, Ned Flanders said: Looks like Kelly spiked the ball with 9 seconds left...that's an eternity in today's game. Full PxP: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199101270buf.htm#all_pbp Linked page does not say when TOs were taken, but I believe the Bills were out of them. I hear Four Falls is a great documentary but I won't watch...too soon. Ugh reviewing that game it's amazing how little time we spent on offense, drives all over the place of two-three minutes, it's no wonder the defense got gassed in the 3rd quarter. 2 minutes ago, Haslett_Stomp said: I've been getting texts from college friends who are not Bills fans asking if I've seen Four Falls. My response: "I lived it." The worst to me was the third one, as felt like the greatest comeback was a sign that we were meant to take it that year only to get crushed by Dallas. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 It's a brutal watch, but I love how it defines who we are as Bills fans. Resilient. These games occurred on or around my 13th, 14th, 15th, and 16th birthdays. SB25 was on my birthday. It teaches you how to take a punch, that's for sure. I really do feel like it's helped me deal with adversity. But *****, I'd trade all of it for one damn Lombardi trophy. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I watched it once - it is excellent. I can not watch it again. Maybe if we eventually win one it would be less painful, but I won't go near it now. We might have won 2 or 3 if we got that 1st one. It was already in their heads to not be Denver by the 2nd one, and I remember Madden saying that it seemed like the Bills wanted to win "too much." Never should have come down to Norwood in the 1st - quite a few missed tackles on that LONG drive the Giants had in the 2nd half. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Losing a Super Bowl is the hardest loss in sports, and we did it 4 consecutive years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 My young sons are always wanting to watch it, but I can’t get myself to watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Hasn’t this doco been around for like 10 years? Have they put out a new version recently given there have been a couple threads about.? I lived it too in real time … Still can’t believe they lost that first game … they were outclassed the other three times..so they don’t hurt me as badly .. I remember the Redskins game … I was backpacking around Europe and found myself in Seville Spain on the day( night) … I spent money I didn’t have to check into a fancy hotel that had satellite TV to watch the game ( it wasn’t on Spain free to air TV at the time) What a waste… think I was asleep by halftime .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 45 minutes ago, Success said: I watched it once - it is excellent. I can not watch it again. Maybe if we eventually win one it would be less painful, but I won't go near it now. We might have won 2 or 3 if we got that 1st one. It was already in their heads to not be Denver by the 2nd one, and I remember Madden saying that it seemed like the Bills wanted to win "too much." Never should have come down to Norwood in the 1st - quite a few missed tackles on that LONG drive the Giants had in the 2nd half. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Losing a Super Bowl is the hardest loss in sports, and we did it 4 consecutive years. I don't know. Losing the Stanley Cup on home ice in triple OT on a goal that shouldn't have counted when the Sabres hit one off the crossbar in the 2nd OT was pretty hard too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 These were my last 2 college years and my fist years on my own - wide right was my Junior year. I remember a bunch of us going to a student's house in Cooperstown, NY to watch the first Super Bowl - probably about a 2 hour drive. I remember after that ball went right we made the drive back and I was completely silent - I'm not kidding when I say that I don't think I spoke at all for at least a day - almost felt like Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off when he went catatonic. Washington loss was my senior year and I remember one of the girls in the apartment across the hall was from DC and was a casual Skins fa. I remember thinking how unfair it was that this casual fan got to know the joy of a Super Bowl victory when I, a die-hard Bills fans, lost again - seemed grossly unfair. By the time of the two Dallas losses I had just learned that the Bills were eternally cursed - a Charlie Brown organization is there ever was one. The Smoking Man on the Xfiles was real and there was a deep conspiracy to make sure the Bills never won... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty shackleford Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I watched it when it first came out, then rewatched it last week because it kept coming up as the top suggestion on Netflix and its been a few year now. As far as the age topic and the perception from that, I was in kindergarten for the first superbowl appearance. Experiencing those four years as an elementary school kid, it made me feel that it was just a normal thing for the Bills to be in the superbowl, let alone the playoffs. Fast forward a few years when I understood the sport a bit better then understand what the achievement those years really meant. Then just to be hit with the drought soon after was a real punch to the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Hasn’t this doco been around for like 10 years? Have they put out a new version recently given there have been a couple threads about.? I lived it too in real time … Still can’t believe they lost that first game … they were outclassed the other three times..so they don’t hurt me as badly .. I remember the Redskins game … I was backpacking around Europe and found myself in Seville Spain on the day( night) … I spent money I didn’t have to check into a fancy hotel that had satellite TV to watch the game ( it wasn’t on Spain free to air TV at the time) What a waste… think I was asleep by halftime .. It just recently hit Netflix and has reached a new wave of fans who must have missed it the first time around because I have been seeing people posting about it all over the internet like it is new lol. But yes originally came out in 2015 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I feel like there's a new thread on this Documentary every couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, rusty shackleford said: I watched it when it first came out, then rewatched it last week because it kept coming up as the top suggestion on Netflix and its been a few year now. As far as the age topic and the perception from that, I was in kindergarten for the first superbowl appearance. Experiencing those four years as an elementary school kid, it made me feel that it was just a normal thing for the Bills to be in the superbowl, let alone the playoffs. Fast forward a few years when I understood the sport a bit better then understand what the achievement those years really meant. Then just to be hit with the drought soon after was a real punch to the face. Same experience for me. Was so cruel to start growing up during the Super Bowl runs and then live through the drought once it was time to start coming of age and be able to appreciate it more. Sometimes it would feel like the Super Bowl years were just something I dreamed of as a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I feel like there's a new thread on this Documentary every couple weeks. I know. Next someone is going to post about Buffalo 66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Thurman Thomas gained a 1st down at the Buffalo 40-yard line with 1:36 left. They ran four plays in the next 1:28. Just madness. All to settle for a 47-yard field goal by Norwood, who had never made that long of a field goal on grass, and who was 0-for-6 that same year on FGs of 50 plus. The NFL as a whole in 1990: 50+ yard field goals: 28/78 (35.8%) 40-49 yard field goals: 146/235 (62.1%) A 47-yard field goal was probably about a 40% chance at most. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 12 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Also, this O would be perfect for the k gun. Not 100% of the time but maybe 4 5 drives a game. Just a thought, with our personnel So the K2-Gun will be named after Kincaid - you knew the K-Gun was named after Bills TE not Kelly, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I can’t bring myself to watch it….yes, I’m a *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 11 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Would anyone else be low key interested in a Hard Knocks style, BTS documentary on the drought? Any behind the scenes stories/video would be absolutely fascinating. I thought this series in 2017 was interesting. you might like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let's Go Buffalo Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) This period of time was during my early teenage years.....but I remember it like it was yesterday like many of you. It was a very impressive run for them to pick themselves off the mat, and come back 4 consecutive years. That's the heart of a true Bills fan though as well....Keep coming back year after year. Go Bills! Edited February 27 by Let's Go Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Never heard of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 13 hours ago, Long Suffering Fan said: There was a time in my son's life where the Bills went to the Super Bowl every single year he was alive. Did you lose your boy at 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Thurman was amazing. Catch block and run. I remember him juking out the entire dolphin defense.... He was the prototype before marshall faulk, and Barry Sanders sat behind him in college 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 14 hours ago, blitzboy54 said: I was 16 during "wide right" and cried a little. I felt like something went wrong with the universe. There was no scenario going into that game that I thought we could lose. The rally for Scott was special, but after a couple of years it just got so negative. Like the whole world hated us. It was a rougher ride in retrospect than it probably should have been. It wasn't until much later people really started to appreciate what we had accomplished. It was the drought and "Bills Mafia" that made the Bills lovable again. The last one I really thought we were going to win. Having the lead going into the half, after that fumble it felt inevitable that we would lose. I wouldn't trade any of it now. It was honestly the wildest sports ride of my life. I too was 16 at wide right. My parents made me go to church during Super Bowl 25😂. I got home in time to see wide right. I got angry during Super Bowl 26- felt we had a better team than the one that showed up, was in bewilderment during Super Bowl 27, and cried at the end of Super Bowl 28 when family started giving me hugs instead of trash talking me. They felt sorry for me by the 4th. Worst part was living in Dallas during all of those. Yet, I wouldn’t trade any of it. It was the best of times and the worst of times. Always felt we should have gone to Super Bowl in 1988 and 1989 too. I also thought we were going in 1999 with Flutie. Hope we get to see one more (with a win this time). Definitely built a resiliency that I’ve carried through life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I was in 2nd grade for wide right and that was really the start of me being a fan. The Washington SB being a vivid memory ending in tears. As much as I used to get upset and cry as a youngster at those losses those teams taught me so much. Alway getting up. Never giving up. Perseverance. Ignoring negativity. Loyalty. Those teams were almost like having another parent with you teaching you life lessons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) I was 16 and in a room full of Giant’s fans. I was never a huge fan of Jim Kelly. I didn’t trust him at all in any game. I wasn’t one of the “bench Kelly for Reich” guys but I wouldn’t have been too upset if it happened. Sometimes he would come out and throw 3 interceptions right away in the 1st quarter. When he was bad, he was really bad. The AFC was incredibly bad back then so it was no surprise that most of them were so lopsided. I think they lost about a dozen SB’s in a row during that period. It pissed me off that Denver was the team to finally win one. I thought we had a chance against the Redskins but nope. The Redskins really had an incredible season that year. Maybe the most dominant I’ve ever seen. Edited February 27 by Governor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 (edited) 15 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Ugh reviewing that game it's amazing how little time we spent on offense, drives all over the place of two-three minutes, it's no wonder the defense got gassed in the 3rd quarter. The worst to me was the third one, as felt like the greatest comeback was a sign that we were meant to take it that year only to get crushed by Dallas. Ya, I mean the 4 years as a whole is so surreal, wide right, the DL coach crazy behavior, greatest comeback ever,with fans rushing back, the whole anti Bills narrative, Thurman forgetting his helmet etc etc those 4 years seemed like 10 years with all the ups and downs but that team might be the most talented core in nfl history over a 5 year span. It's painful to watch, can't imagine living it, even though I technically did, I was just a baby When we get a ring, the guys from those teams should too or at minimum, be honored at parade Edited February 27 by JerseyBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I watched it last week actually for the first time. My 10 year old kid did too which was awesome. I thought it was pretty great. It framed the entire thing in a very positive light. It was pretty thorough for the length of the episode. It's crazy to look back on. I was 12 for wide right. It was a great ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: Ya, I mean the 4 years as a whole is so surreal, wide right, the DL coach crazy behavior, greatest comeback ever,with fans rushing back, the whole anti Bills narrative, Thurman forgetting his helmet etc etc those 4 years seemed like 10 years with all the ups and downs but that team might be the most talented core in nfl history over a 5 year span. It's painful to watch, can't imagine living it, even though I technically did, I was just a baby When we get a ring, the guys from those teams should too or at minimum, be honored at parade I was a teenager at the time (I turned 13 in 1990) so it was quite a ride for a fan to say the least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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