Process Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Not having Bernard hurts, damn. 8 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Sounds about right. I figured he was out when we elevated Klein, since Dodson was practicing all week and should play. How effective would he be on a bum ankle anyway? I always try to remember that player health isn’t binary. Edited January 21 by Einstein 15 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Loss of Bernard sucks but of you had to get only one of the two for the Chiefs game, Johnson probably the better one to have. 9 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 That’s remarkable. From a pure fandom perspective I’m glad he is a go. From a human perspective, this is this guys 5th concussion of his career and he can play in 6 days? Nobody in the NFL gives a shirt about player health or safety, and the independent neuro’s must be on the take. 2 1 3 4 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Damn. Well at least Johnson is playing, and we have Douglas back. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 McDermott is going to have to come up with some serious **** to shut down the crybaby with all these injuries. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Loss of Bernard sucks but of you had to get only one of the two for the Chiefs game, Johnson probably the better one to have. Tough decision if you can only have one. Taron's the better choice for coverage on Rice underneath but I think Bernard would be better for Kelce. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Losing Bernard, Benford, Spector and Rapp off this Defense hurts .. but we have to give credit to Beane, because this Defense still has: Floyd - Jones - Oliver - Rousseau Von - Settle - Joseph or Poona - AJE Lawson Dodson - Klein - Williams Douglas - Johnson - Jackson/Elam Hyde - Poyer - Lewis Most teams would love to have that level of talent on Defense. More than enough for McDermott to show us why he took over the Defense and is the guy to take us to the next level. Advance, stay healthy, and a few .. if not all.. of those guys will be back next weekend. 14 9 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CincyBillsFan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 9 minutes ago, Mango said: From a human perspective, this is this guys 5th concussion of his career and he can play in 6 days? Nobody in the NFL gives a shirt about player health or safety, and the independent neuro’s must be on the take. I disagree. The Bills organization has repeatedly demonstrated that they are conservative when it comes to player safety. I have never felt like they rushed anyone back to soon. 2 1 12 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 12 minutes ago, Einstein said: Sounds about right. I figured he was out when we elevated Klein, since Dodson was practicing all week and should play. How effective would he be on a bum ankle anyway? I always try to remember that player health isn’t binary. Klein was going to be pulled up no matter what. He replaces spector at the very least. In this case he may replace both 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: I disagree. The Bills organization has repeatedly demonstrated that they are conservative when it comes to player safety. I have never felt like they rushed anyone back to soon. Didn’t Taron say he felt fine to go back in last week? In general, the NFL just cares about money but in this case I don’t think they were reckless. I pray that proves to be the case. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Taron is more valuable if I had to pick one 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Loss of Bernard sucks but of you had to get only one of the two for the Chiefs game, Johnson probably the better one to have. ya thank God, didn't Lewis fill in for him last week and got beat a few times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: I disagree. The Bills organization has repeatedly demonstrated that they are conservative when it comes to player safety. I have never felt like they rushed anyone back to soon. Guys in host of other sports have missed 365 + days for a single concussion. The league has zero players with roster sizes 2x-3x. Take your kid to Dent neuro or the Cleveland clinic the day after their 5th concussion and see if they clear them to play sports 6 days later. They won’t do it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, Mango said: From a human perspective, this is this guys 5th concussion of his career and he can play in 6 days? Nobody in the NFL gives a shirt about player health or safety, and the independent neuro’s must be on the take. 2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: I disagree. The Bills organization has repeatedly demonstrated that they are conservative when it comes to player safety. I have never felt like they rushed anyone back to soon. Agree with CincyBIllsFan. The Bills under McBeane have demonstrated repeatedly their patience and wisdom in bringing players back slowly from injury. I believe there are teams who would be dressing Terrell Bernard today but not the Bills. 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Klein was going to be pulled up no matter what. He replaces spector at the very least. In this case he may replace both Exactly correct. They don't want to see Tyler Matakevich playing LB in this game. Whether as a starter or a backup, Klein was gonna get the callup. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: ya thank God, didn't Lewis fill in for him last week and got beat a few times All Injuries are bad, but a concussion can compromise the mental part of the game, not the athletic part. Every player on both teams is a bit nicked up by this time in the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Win today and have Bernard back next week. After getting carted off, I'm sure everyone thought he was gone for the rest of playoffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Dodson Williams Klein Matakevich That is likely to be the extent of our LB depth today. It's certainly not ideal. The Bills pretty much always have 5 LBs active on gameday, but they are left with no choice if Bernard can't play. I would guess they'll go Dodson at MLB and Williams at WLB. If Williams is completely lost they'll pull him for Klein, or in a real emergency they'll bring Poyer down into that spot and start Cam Lewis at safety. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 18 minutes ago, Mango said: That’s remarkable. From a pure fandom perspective I’m glad he is a go. From a human perspective, this is this guys 5th concussion of his career and he can play in 6 days? Nobody in the NFL gives a shirt about player health or safety, and the independent neuro’s must be on the take. No one has said concussion. The term “concussion protocol” is a waste basket term now. You can have a stinger and be in the “protocol “ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Bernard is a game changer, so that one hurts A LOT. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 And Douglas is playing yes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Who is this “source” and is it even news that TB43 “is not expected to play”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: ya thank God, didn't Lewis fill in for him last week and got beat a few times Yea.. Lewis seems decent as 3rd Safety. Slot Corner.. not so much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Agree with CincyBIllsFan. The Bills under McBeane have demonstrated repeatedly their patience and wisdom in bringing players back slowly from injury. I believe there are teams who would be dressing Terrell Bernard today but not the Bills. Exactly correct. They don't want to see Tyler Matakevich playing LB in this game. Whether as a starter or a backup, Klein was gonna get the callup. Playoff timelines are different than regular season. This is the most important home game this team has played in 30 years. This team played Beasley on a broken leg. They’ll let anybody go who gets doctors clearance for this one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Playing at a high level through injury is a necessary skill in the NFL. If Bernard somehow gets cleared, it’s because he, and the team, are confident he can play at a high level. Nature of the beast.. pretty normal (even for guys we all thought were healthy) to schedule surgery after the seasons end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 30 minutes ago, Einstein said: Sounds about right. I figured he was out when we elevated Klein, since Dodson was practicing all week and should play. How effective would he be on a bum ankle anyway? I always try to remember that player health isn’t binary. We are without Spector so the elevation makes sense anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazinBill Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Saw this coming like a lot of others on here- having Taron is huge though -bring Poyer down into the box a lot today Edited January 21 by BlazinBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, Mango said: Guys in host of other sports have missed 365 + days for a single concussion. The league has zero players with roster sizes 2x-3x. Take your kid to Dent neuro or the Cleveland clinic the day after their 5th concussion and see if they clear them to play sports 6 days later. They won’t do it. I don’t believe he had a concussion. I believe it was precautionary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, balln said: No one has said concussion. The term “concussion protocol” is a waste basket term now. You can have a stinger and be in the “protocol “ Or as Mike McDaniel calls it, a "back injury". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Numerous crappy teams and teams with scoring defenses ranked in the 20s, two in the low 20s, have held KC to 21 or fewer points. Six in fact. The 30th, 17 points. The 27th, 19 and 9 points. The 24th, 13. The 23rd, 20. If our 4th ranked scoring defense cannot manage to hold them to 21 or fewer, even with injuries, which are common to every team ... In fact, one of the teams we beat to get here, a win without which we wouldn't have made it, had their starting QB, a top one, their only decent starting WR, also a top one, and one of the best DEs in the league all out. As merely one example. Same with our offense in our own house. KC is as offensively weak as we'll ever see them with Mahomes as QB. GO BILLS!!! Get this done! Edited January 21 by PBF81 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 30 minutes ago, Mango said: That’s remarkable. From a pure fandom perspective I’m glad he is a go. From a human perspective, this is this guys 5th concussion of his career and he can play in 6 days? Nobody in the NFL gives a shirt about player health or safety, and the independent neuro’s must be on the take. There are different levels of concussions just like there different levels of sprains. https://mayfieldclinic.com/pe-concussion.htm#:~:text=Grade I%3A no loss of,for more than 24 hours. To claim the independent neurologist needs to be the take is slander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mango said: Guys in host of other sports have missed 365 + days for a single concussion. The league has zero players with roster sizes 2x-3x. Take your kid to Dent neuro or the Cleveland clinic the day after their 5th concussion and see if they clear them to play sports 6 days later. They won’t do it. If the player is fine with the risk, who am I to get in his way, there’s been players who’ve retired early due to concussion risk and good for them, but it was their choice. Life is full of risk/reward decisions for all of us to make. Edited January 21 by julian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 32 minutes ago, Mango said: That’s remarkable. From a pure fandom perspective I’m glad he is a go. From a human perspective, this is this guys 5th concussion of his career and he can play in 6 days? Nobody in the NFL gives a shirt about player health or safety, and the independent neuro’s must be on the take. A charitable interpretation is he had a very minor concussion that they wouldn’t even pull you from the game in the old days, and they are being extremely overly cautious having him in the protocol in the first place. An uncharitable interpretation is he was rushed through the process to be able to play in a big game to the detriment of his long term health. Hard to know for sure from an outsider’s perspective. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 16 minutes ago, Maynard said: Bernard is a game changer, so that one hurts A LOT. He certainly has a knack of always being around the ball. He’s Mr. “Johnny on the spot.” His coverage skills and blitzing will also be missed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I believe in the past we have used Siran Neal to man up on Kelce. I think the middle 3 personnel packages will have to be very creative today. I could see weird ones like Dodson/Neal/Johnson, or Dodson/Poyer/Johnson (with Lewis or Hamlin as the SS) to go along with the traditional packages. I think guys are gonna get moved around a lot as a means of papering over some awful injury luck and simultaneously keeping Mahomes off balance with what he's seeing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Not ideal but it is what it is. No complaining just get it done. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: There are different levels of concussions just like there different levels of sprains. https://mayfieldclinic.com/pe-concussion.htm#:~:text=Grade I%3A no loss of,for more than 24 hours. To claim the independent neurologist needs to be the take is slander. Cool. Im not a neuro, but I have one at the Cleveland Clinic and another at Mount Sinai, and both have said that the NFL concussion protocol isn’t what they would practice at either hospital. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Bernard wasn't covering Kelce, and Dodson helps more against the run. Not the worst loss for this game. Johnson is more valuable with his ability to cover Kelce/slot receivers. McDermott has enough on the D line and on the backend to limit a KC offense that hasn't been potent all season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 39 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: McDermott is going to have to come up with some serious **** to shut down the crybaby with all these injuries. I think we'd most all agree we need KC to have a slight off day given so many injuries 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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