Draconator Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 lol 5 6 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Pay that man! Lol 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 PAY THE MAN! It's an insult for Tua to have to play next season without a long-term, lucrative big $$ deal. Herbert and Burrow set the floor for negotiations, IMO. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 years $500mil guaranteed please 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Show some respect people. Tua is the greatest September QB in NFL history. 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, Bangarang said: 10 years $500mil guaranteed please And guarantee all of it for injury. Just now, Gregg said: Show some respect people. Tua is the greatest September QB in NFL history. Tropical Tua. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Ensure that his contract is as guaranteed as Desean Watson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Only reason I can think Grier is putting this out is that he wants to be fired. He probably wants out of Miami but wants to get paid for the rest of his current contract. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellofellowbillsfans Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 i want a lifetime contract for him PLEASE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 AFC Pro Bowl Starting QB you're going to have to pay him top $, probably should lock him up for as long as possible too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 What’s the alternative? They have to sign him. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: What’s the alternative? They have to sign him. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: What’s the alternative? They have to sign him. He has a 5th year they could let him play on it, they could use that 5th year he has left to trade him to help try and find the actual solution. Obviously this is good for us but he's not it, ripping off the band-aide and getting what they can out of him is their best option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I still think Tua is an elite franchise QB. Obviously at some point though he's going to have to win a big game just like Dak Prescott who has also posted silly regular season numbers for years but came up small in the playoffs/big games. 1 1 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 What the gm says in public to try to maintain cohesion among the team vs. what they really think can be very different. It also puts the ball in Tua’s court to come to an agreement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 Just now, FilthyBeast said: I still think Tua is an elite franchise QB. Obviously at some point though he's going to have to win a big game just like Dak Prescott who has also posted silly regular season numbers for years but came up small in the playoffs/big games. Level with me. Is it acid? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Make Tua the highest paid at his position !!! Tua is a solid QB but I wouldn't call him elite, but Miami should overpay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 This was right up there with my off-season wishes of drafting a WR high. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I don't think that anybody in Miami's front office, including the owner, has the stones to make the difficult and painful decision here Tua is never going to be more than he is right now. He doesn't have the physical tools or leadership abilities to be what Josh Allen & Patrick Mahomes are today He's just good enough to keep winning in September & October and in warm weather - when conditions are right and he can play in rhythm with talented teammates But even though this franchise is probably scared to death of not having a high performing QB, the right move is to trade him now, rip off the band-aid of other high $ contracts and start over But they'll never do it, and I for one am thrilled... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, Draconator said: Is it acid? acid just enhances the Tua experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Perfect! Miami remains just good enough to keep us on our toes each season, but never a real threat to beat us in a game that matters. This is the ideal outcome for BIlls fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Draconator said: lol This guarantees at least 3 more AFCE titles unless Aaron Rodgers makes a miraculous come back which is a long shot. Edited January 16 by ChronicAndKnuckles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 If I were the Dolphins front office, you probably stay the course considering they almost won the division despite a roster ravaged by key injuries as the season wore on and a few plays go different in the finale against the Bills they might have just pulled it out. Either way that roster is still loaded and oozing with premium talent....staying healthy a big problem though similar to the Bills and they key guys in recent years. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) I mean the thing holding them back from doing the deal last offseason was injury concerns. And he played every meaningful snap. He made the pro bowl, was an MVP candidate, and led the league in passing yards. He didn't play well the last couple of games, and injuries had something to do with that (offensive line combinations all season, waddle at the end of the year, achane missing time etc). They also seemed to struggle to adjust when teams took away their "fastball", and playcalling seemed to get away from the run game and just general issues with making adjustments offensively. Unfortunately by waiting, they lost a ton of contract leverage - his poor performance down the season not withstanding. Edited January 16 by Bleeding Bills Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said: dammit! you beat me to it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBillyG Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 The Dolphins have the chance to do the funniest thing ever... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Tua needs all conditions perfect. 1st read gets taken away he can't improvise. He is also extremely visibly frightened of contact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 This is just a repeat of the situation the NY Giants found themselves in with Daniel Jones. I don't care about athletic comparisons or what each does better than the other, the situation for the franchises are the same. Both of them are meh QB's that are injury prone and will never lead a team to a SB. Still, the franchises themselves are between a rock and a hard place. What's the option if you don't re-sign them? If you do re-sign them then you're really just setting your franchise back a few years. The Giants re-signed Daniel Jones. We saw how that played out this year. One can only hope Miami is just as stupid and the financial commitment hamstrings them for the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 While they are at it they should extend Mikey baby, and guarantee 10 years of late season collapses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 32 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said: How dare you beat me to this meme! When I think about this offense, you know who I think could excel? Tyrod. He has a beautiful deep ball, good mobility, and can hit the predetermined throws. They both struggle when it comes to their 3rd and beyond reads. Granted, TT is a lot older than Tua, but he'd come 30 mil a year cheaper. If I'm Miami, I let Tua search for trade partners so his agent can see what his value is. 14 minutes ago, H2o said: This is just a repeat of the situation the NY Giants found themselves in with Daniel Jones. I don't care about athletic comparisons or what each does better than the other, the situation for the franchises are the same. Both of them are meh QB's that are injury prone and will never lead a team to a SB. Still, the franchises themselves are between a rock and a hard place. What's the option if you don't re-sign them? If you do re-sign them then you're really just setting your franchise back a few years. The Giants re-signed Daniel Jones. We saw how that played out this year. One can only hope Miami is just as stupid and the financial commitment hamstrings them for the foreseeable future. Exactly. Tua and Jones are worth 40+ mil, but when top 5 money is 50+ these days, that's just what you have to pay a QB you deem just good enough to not be a journeyman. Tua without Tyreek doesn't have anywhere near the numbers he does, and I think that's apparent to everyone. But sadly, for the Dolphins, it's either pay him 45 mil or try again from scratch with someone new and hope for the best. If it's me, and I have so many players on their rookie deals still, I let Tua ride his full 5 year contract and make the decision afterwards. Lock down the starting pieces around him, see your cap situation, see if Tua can stay healthy, then make choices. I would not be in a rush to lock Tua down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Its almost like when the Jets decided to hire Adam Gase, ya dig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 33 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: If I were the Dolphins front office, you probably stay the course considering they almost won the division despite a roster ravaged by key injuries as the season wore on and a few plays go different in the finale against the Bills they might have just pulled it out. Either way that roster is still loaded and oozing with premium talent....staying healthy a big problem though similar to the Bills and they key guys in recent years. miami has done everything they can to stack that roster, and the still completely imploded in december yet again. the team is soft and just isn't built for late in the season. if you can be more successful with this roster, it likely comes down to qb, coaching or both. once miami re-signs tua, the bills will be the division winners for years to come. get ready for it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 41 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: I still think Tua is an elite franchise QB. Obviously at some point though he's going to have to win a big game just like Dak Prescott who has also posted silly regular season numbers for years but came up small in the playoffs/big games. Bwahahahahaha, Tua elite, Bwahahahahaha, 😂🤣😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 44 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: I still think Tua is an elite franchise QB. Obviously at some point though he's going to have to win a big game just like Dak Prescott who has also posted silly regular season numbers for years but came up small in the playoffs/big games. I support your team paying him whole heartedly. 43 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: I don't think that anybody in Miami's front office, including the owner, has the stones to make the difficult and painful decision here Tua is never going to be more than he is right now. He doesn't have the physical tools or leadership abilities to be what Josh Allen & Patrick Mahomes are today He's just good enough to keep winning in September & October and in warm weather - when conditions are right and he can play in rhythm with talented teammates But even though this franchise is probably scared to death of not having a high performing QB, the right move is to trade him now, rip off the band-aid of other high $ contracts and start over But they'll never do it, and I for one am thrilled... Which is insane it could legit be one of the smarter GM moves, with his inflated numbers and accolades they might get something good trading him on that 5th year. The longer they wait the worse it's going to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 46 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Perfect! Miami remains just good enough to keep us on our toes each season, but never a real threat to beat us in a game that matters. This is the ideal outcome for BIlls fans. Except with that new QB contract fitting in all those high priced weapons on offense that Tua needs to be able to get to his timing throws becomes much harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: What’s the alternative? They have to sign him. See if Minnesota would take him on his 5th year option in exchange for Kirk Cousins. Maybe add in an additional piece going away that could make their cap situation better. Not a Cousins fan, but he'd be a better option than Tua in that offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 53 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: If I were the Dolphins front office, you probably stay the course considering they almost won the division despite a roster ravaged by key injuries as the season wore on and a few plays go different in the finale against the Bills they might have just pulled it out. Either way that roster is still loaded and oozing with premium talent....staying healthy a big problem though similar to the Bills and they key guys in recent years. They are 2-6 in the month of December in the last 2 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 This is not a bad thing for Miami. Tua is a solid productive QB. Miami's problem is Josh Allen is a unicorn and he plays in Buffalo. Nobody Miami could ever acquire is going to be able to put the team on his shoulders in crunch time the way Josh Allen can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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