Punching Bag Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: To sign a player off of another team's practice squad, you have to sign them to your 53-man roster. You have to give them three game checks too. In the coming days, we're going to hear about Ingram and Vickers being signed to the 53 so that will free up practice squad spots. Signing Josh Norman costs the BIlls absolutely nothing except for a PS slot. I took a look at the available current CB UFAs and it's a list of has-beens and never-beens. Stop confusing irrational rants of fantasy GM players with facrs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Norman was not good with the Bills two years ago, what could go wrong now? Hopefully he still has some gas in the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Vontae Davis would cost one-half as much. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Vontae Davis would cost one-half as much. 'Footballs a young mans game coach' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Vontae Davis would cost one-half as much. Dirty deeds done dirt cheap. Aka You get what you pay for... Can you imagine the reception he would receive if he ever came back to Highmark stadium? You better batten down the hatches folks this ride could be very bumpy. seismic even. lol Vontae Davis. I was there the day he walked off at halftime. Against the Chargers home opener. It was hot and humid as heck. I thought maybe it was weather related that he left, conditioning related. Nope . What a tool. Edited October 10, 2023 by muppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) This video is solid gold lol Edited October 10, 2023 by BillsFan692 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Can the guy still run at all? I don’t even understand why you’d think to try this? Is he just there to teach Elam or something? If you are going to just get torched on every play, why even bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 this has McD's moronic coaching philosophy of getting someone he is "comfortable with" written all over it. How about get an actual CB who can play? But that would require trading a draft pick, and we need all the 1st round picks we can get so we can get guys we don't use like Elam and Kincaid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Didn't realize he was SOOOOO OLD, but he was a solid contributor just two years ago for SF when they narrowly lost the NFC championship. I think this is the end of Elam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Mango said: It has been a minute, but it feels like Josh Norman was toast in 2020. There is absolutely no way that he is the best option. Zero. I feel like it’s the classic let’s pick up a bad player that knows the system over a pretty bad player that doesn’t. 5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: this has McD's moronic coaching philosophy of getting someone he is "comfortable with" written all over it. How about get an actual CB who can play? But that would require trading a draft pick, and we need all the 1st round picks we can get so we can get guys we don't use like Elam and Kincaid. I mean he’s comfortable with him cuz he’s played in the system…he could probably find a slightly better player in free agency that will take time to learn the defense. We need bodies right away until benford returns Edited October 10, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 It’s PS so we probably never see him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Strictly a depth player. Doubt he will see the field in a meaningful way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Maybe another coach for Elam? Have no idea. Elam certainly has physical skills but looked lost on Sunday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I feel like it’s the classic let’s pick up a bad player that knows the system over a pretty bad player that doesn’t. I mean he’s comfortable with him cuz he’s played in the system…he could probably find a slightly better player in free agency that will take time to learn the defense. We need bodies right away until benford returns I get what you are saying, but IMO Norman was AWFUL in 2020. Picking up the system should not be overly complex. Floyd came in and apparently "got" the system. Find someone from a zone system and get them. Likely the current PS guy is a better player at this point, just IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I get what you are saying, but IMO Norman was AWFUL in 2020. Picking up the system should not be overly complex. Floyd came in and apparently "got" the system. Find someone from a zone system and get them. Likely the current PS guy is a better player at this point, just IMO. I think 'the system' for a DE, playing in a 4/2/5, is pretty straightforward. There's a lot more to digest if you're a LB, S or a CB. Dline has much fewer coverage responsibilities and the part of the field they are responsible for is much smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Just now, uninja said: I think 'the system' for a DE, playing in a 4/2/5, is pretty straightforward. There's a lot more to digest if you're a LB, S or a CB. Dline has much fewer coverage responsibilities and the part of the field they are responsible for is much smaller. ok then, fair points. I counter with the fact that Benford looked good as a 6th round rookie pick out of powerhouse Villanova. Just rather get a guy with more juice left. Perhaps we are still looking at CB trades, or trying to find a player to replace Jones at 1T. I will agree he's likely the best "street guy". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 it's the Practice Squad likely just for some form of veteran presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 He'll be backing Herb Miller 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 is it asking too much to trade a 7th for Levi Wallace & do what it takes to get Surtain (1, 2, Elam at least) yes it is! But do it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: is it asking too much to trade a 7th for Levi Wallace & do what it takes to get Surtain (1, 2, Elam at least) yes it is! But do it anyway Why would the Steelers, who are currently in first place in the AFC North, trade away their starting CB for a 7th? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 We have 4 CBs on the practice squad now. Seems strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 45 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Why would the Steelers, who are currently in first place in the AFC North, trade away their starting CB for a 7th? Exactly . Steelers not looking like they’ll be sellers at the deadline this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I get the "familiarity with the system" criteria, but I can't imagine that he adds anything to the effectiveness of the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Kaiir Elam must really suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 2:11 PM, BillsFanForever19 said: Um, well, uh, at least he was still getting gigs through last season. I thought maybe he was out of the league for a year or two. On one hand, absolutely crazy. On the other, McDermott puts an incredible amount of emphasis on guys who know his system. And midseason, he's going to value that over someone learning on the fly. So I guess I shouldn't be as shocked as I am. Especially since there's absolutely no one out there right now and teams trading away good CB's midseason are exceedingly rare. Edit: The more I think about it, the more I think this move is less about Norman on the field and more about a lack of a real veteran presence in the CB room. Norman knows McDermott's D inside and out. I think Norman will be more of a coach to the young guys like Benford and Elam than anything else. Well put. This was my thought as well. (I mean really, Norman’s tank looked to be running low the last time he was wearing a Bills uni…) Especially for the sake of Elam, this signing may be his last chance to get his act together, at a time when we need him the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I had a thought... Maybe they brought in Norman to be a sort of player-coach to support the young CBs on the roster. Nobody knows the scheme as well as Norman, and he's obviously in good with the coaching staff. Maybe practicing with Norman can help make a light bulb go off for Elam? 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, DapperCam said: I had a thought... Maybe they brought in Norman to be a sort of player-coach to support the young CBs on the roster. Nobody knows the scheme as well as Norman, and he's obviously in good with the coaching staff. Maybe practicing with Norman can help make a light bulb go off for Elam? I was thinking the same. One on one with Elam.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Joe Marino making the case that it's good, Josh Norman can mentor the young players. That stuff reeks of the old 7-9 Bills who looked to every veteran to mentor everyone. And we know McDermott has a soft spot for all these ex-Panthers, if he finds his way onto a football field the Bills deserve what they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 5 hours ago, The Wiz said: That is literally all you can expect in the season the bills run a complex defense, and whoever comes in, will have the benefit of going through training camp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: That is literally all you can expect in the season the bills run a complex defense, and whoever comes in, will have the benefit of going through training camp It was meant as a joke but I'll play the devil's advocate here. He's been off the team for as long as Elam has been on the team but he might be a better option even as a PS signing? Kind of speaks volumes in both directions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Higgins hair Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Either a player gets it, or he doesn’t. After two full seasons of OTA, training camps and game experiences…, our former #1 pick doesn’t seem to have anything between the ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Stable pony for Elam to see if he can be salvaged. Teach Elam McD's defense. Last chance for the youngster. Edited October 12, 2023 by CodeMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCofNC Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 On 10/11/2023 at 9:56 AM, Brian Higgins hair said: Either a player gets it, or he doesn’t. After two full seasons of OTA, training camps and game experiences…, our former #1 pick doesn’t seem to have anything between the ears. I don’t agree that he doesn’t have anything between the ears, it was pretty widely pushed that he was quite smart coming out of Florida… that said, he isn’t getting it for us. Either he just can’t handle the zone scheme, which does take a little more on the fly recognition than “cover that guy” or he has done something to piss McD off for the ages. I can’t imagine what he could have done to get no PT with all that physical ability. It’s a mystery to me, all I know is the Chiefs completely F’d us by taking McDuffie and leaving us with what appears to be a panic pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I don’t agree that he doesn’t have anything between the ears, it was pretty widely pushed that he was quite smart coming out of Florida… that said, he isn’t getting it for us. Either he just can’t handle the zone scheme, which does take a little more on the fly recognition than “cover that guy” or he has done something to piss McD off for the ages. I can’t imagine what he could have done to get no PT with all that physical ability. It’s a mystery to me, all I know is the Chiefs completely F’d us by taking McDuffie and leaving us with what appears to be a panic pick. his most recent review by cover1 shows that he indeed has some decent understanding of the Bills zone concepts. Maybe its more of a consistency thing, or some gaps in certain areas still, and Norman could help with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Apparently Dane Jackson has a foot injury so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Apparently Dane Jackson has a foot injury so.... Ingram needs to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Rumor is Norman tripped on his walker on his way to film study and may be headed to IR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ths the charm Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 7:10 PM, John from Riverside said: What was your handle before you got banned and changed it John from Riverside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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