How many points will the Fish score this week?

[eball]

Just curious what people are thinking going into Miami week against Tua and the video game offense.

[BuffaloBillyG]

I went with 21-30. That offense is really explosive. However I think a few things combine not slow it this week.

 

1. Defensively, we are better then Denver.

2. McDermott always has something cooked up in these situations.

3. The crowd noise may factor in.

4. I think we see an emphasis of running this week to shorten the game and limit Miami's possessions. 

[Ya Digg?]

Less than 70

[Realist]

I went 21-30, thinking they put up 30 on the Bills. I do think Buffalo wins something like 35-30, at least they better, I'm going to this game.

[Albany,n.y.]

77, this time they go for the record.  Unfortunately for them, the Bills score 84, on 2 late TDs, win by 7, and get the record that Miami thought they had achieved.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

This should be a classic game. 
 

I saw a stat that Tua’s passing stats are identical to last years first 3 games, which includes a game vs a beat up Bills defense. They scored 21. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 25, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Matt_In_NH]

I want to go and watch that game.....crazy they scored 10 offensive TD's with minimal turnovers.  I saw some interesting no look screens from Tua....the BIlls will have to have a plan for that.  I think both teams will score a lot....over under at like 53, I would take the over.  These are two of the best teams in the league.

[Wacka]

11 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I went with 21-30. That offense is really explosive. However I think a few things combine not slow it this week.

 

1. Defensively, we are better then Denver.

2. McDermott always has something cooked up in these situations.

3. The crowd noise may factor in.

4. I think we see an emphasis of running this week to shorten the game and limit Miami's possessions. 

Helen Keller school for the deaf, mute, and blind is better than Denver

[Billznut]

Supposed to be warm and sunny Sunday. Perfect weather for a track meet type game. Miami will be happy for sure. Would have to think it’ll probably take at least 31+ to win this one for either side. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

11 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I want to go and watch that game.....crazy they scored 10 offensive TD's with minimal turnovers.  I saw some interesting no look screens from Tua....the BIlls will have to have a plan for that.  I think both teams will score a lot....over under at like 53, I would take the over.  These are two of the best teams in the league.

That over/under is enticing. If forced to pick I may be tempted at the "under". I think both teams play a bit more run game/ball control to keep the other team from possessing the ball. Longer lasting slower moving drives. 27-23 type game when all is said and done.

[eball]

It is certainly interesting to note that the Bills have only given up two defensive TDs through three games…and none since the Raiders’ first drive of W2.

 

Every time I look at this game I have to ask myself which of the four main units (Bills O and D, Fish O and D) is the weakest?  The answer is always the Fish D.

 

[Rico]

7 before Tua gets squished, 6 after.

[BillzFreak]

1 minute ago, eball said:

It is certainly interesting to note that the Bills have only given up two defensive TDs through three games…and none since the Raiders’ first drive of W2.

 

Every time I look at this game I have to ask myself which of the four main units (Bills O and D, Fish O and D) is the weakest?  The answer is always the Fish D.

 

It comes down to the Bills finishing off drives with tds. We are capable of putting up points and I would like to believe with Harris and Murray we can add some nasty in the run game, something the Dolphins have yet to see out off Bills in quite awhile. The Dolphins are going to score points no question about that imo. But if the defense can get some timely stops and force a few field goals, I think we can win in a close one.

[Process]

Less than the Bills. 

 

17-28 is my guess

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, eball said:

Just curious what people are thinking going into Miami week against Tua and the video game offense.

Take the over 

[Maynard]

Watch this game be all defense and low scoring.

[Radar]

I see it as a high scoring game. Still concerned about our secondary against Tua and his receivers. Our offense better be on.

 

[strive_for_five_guy]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I went with 21-30. That offense is really explosive. However I think a few things combine not slow it this week.

 

1. Defensively, we are better then Denver.

2. McDermott always has something cooked up in these situations.

3. The crowd noise may factor in.

4. I think we see an emphasis of running this week to shorten the game and limit Miami's possessions. 

Agree with your points.  I think our DL will continue to wreak havoc this week, along with the coverage skills of our DBs and LBs.  If I needed to build a defense that could match up with Miami, the way ours is built would be close to it.  My biggest concern is the speed of guys like Hill in the open field against some of our older DBs. 

[k2mountain]

I'm concerned about 32 year old Poyer/Hyde. Can they keep up with Miami's speed?

[gordong]

I don't see Tua having a lot of time in the pocket... be spot on on the short to med throws bills win.  say 24 points.

[4merper4mer]

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

they put up 24 against ne. bills have a much better D.

 

23

[gordong]

1 minute ago, k2mountain said:

I'm concerned about 32 year old Poyer/Hyde. Can they keep up with Miami's speed?

 

No,  that's why they will need to player deeper than usual and come up and hit em hard when they do make a catch. 

[Kwai San]

Fish - 17

Bills - 33

 

D-line removes Tua from game in the beginning of the 2nd qtr.  Elvis is strumming his guitar happily....JA finds Diggs/Kincaid often.....run game takes over middle of the 3rd qtr.  Just shy of the over for you gamblers out there.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

I think it will take 35-37 points to beat the Dolphins.

 

Their offensive line is 13th in rush block win rate, but their run game swapped Jeff Wilson out with another Tyreek Hill clone.

 

 

[NewEra]

Can mcdermott disrupt the timing on their quick pass attack?  Can our offense control the clock and run the ball effectively.  
 

if we can do both, I think we can hold them to 18-24.  
 

if we can do one, but not the other, 27-32

 

If we can’t do either, 35+

 

 

[Big Turk]

Last time Allen faced a "great" Fangio defense he put up 48 in Denver on them and had Fangio throwing his hands up on the sidelines cause he couldn't stop him.

[frostbitmic]

The Porpoises will score 12 points.

[DrDawkinstein]

I voted 21-30 points, but I could really see this game "fooling" everyone and end up being a 17-14 slugfest.

 

What's the O/U for point total set at?

[The Wiz]

3 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

they put up 24 against ne. bills have a much better D.

 

23

They also lost Waddle in the second half and were only able to put up 7 more points in that half.

 

That being said, they adjusted nicely this week without him, albeit, against a pretty ***** broncos team.

 

 

I went with 21-30.  We have everyone playing(except von who only played the first game) compared to last year when we were missing a slew of guys in all 3 games.  Defense should be much better than Miami remembers them from last year.

Edited September 25, 2023 by The Wiz

[GunnerBill]

25-35

[BillsFanSD]

I'm kind of expecting a 17-13 type game because that's what always seems to happen in these kinds of games when everyone expects a track meet. 

 

That said, I do feel like we need to crack 30 to feel good about our chances, and I could absolutely see us losing a 38-34 shootout.

[hondo in seattle]

6 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I went with 21-30. That offense is really explosive. However I think a few things combine not slow it this week.

 

1. Defensively, we are better then Denver.

2. McDermott always has something cooked up in these situations.

3. The crowd noise may factor in.

4. I think we see an emphasis of running this week to shorten the game and limit Miami's possessions. 

 

Just to elaborate on #1...  Not only do we have more talent on defense.  But our defenders have more pride and fight in them.  

[boyst]

14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I voted 21-30 points, but I could really see this game "fooling" everyone and end up being a 17-14 slugfest.

 

What's the O/U for point total set at?

I agree on this.

 

Everytime we go in thinking it'll be a high scoring game the coaches know it, too. They do everything they can to limit the scoring and play smarter.

 

This is why I am concerned with the heavy boxes on 3rd and 4th and shorts where speed through the front line leaves the backs wide open to bust one. 

[hondo in seattle]

The most we've given up so far this year is 16 points.

 

The Fins beat that mark by a solid 50% and put up 24.  And still lose.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

11 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Just to elaborate on #1...  Not only do we have more talent on defense.  But our defenders have more pride and fight in them.  

To be fair: Denver has some really really solid players on that defense. They returned most of the starters from last year when they were top half of the league in both fewest points and yards given up. Not saying they were the 85 Bears or anything...but a solid steady defense.

 

I believe the biggest failure for that defense was letting Evero walk and bringing in Vance Joseph. The players don't really fit what he does and he refused to adapt. 

 

Also, I am fully expecting any time for it to come to light that the players themselves are at odds with the coaching staff. I don't think Payton is well received there at all. 

[GoBills808]

21-30 is a huge range

[MJS]

In the 20's. Perhaps even the teens. I think the game will be much lower scoring than many think.

[LABILLBACKER]

We need to duplicate the Raider game offense and Commander game defense. Win TOP and keep their offense off the field like Belichick did to us in 1990.  Josh will be amped so calm his a ss down and force him to stick to the gameplan.  I never thought I'd ask a JA led team to slow it down but this Miami offense is unbelievable. 

Bills  31

McNerd  27

[DrDawkinstein]

15 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

21-30 is a huge range

 

10 numbers to be exact.