Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Edited March 13, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 12 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htt2821 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Give me all the linemen in FA and draft 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Don't know a ton about him, but I do know we need guard help badly. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Well it's safe to say that Beane started to do what we all wanted him to do. The question now is if he chose the right guy Edit: Now I see this is Cowboys Connor McGovern not Jets. Is it a good thing or bad? Edited March 13, 2023 by No_Matter_What 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Ding Ding....it's on like Donkey Kong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/cowboys-connor-mcgovern-free-agency/ Who to bring back and who to allow to test free-agent waters is never an easy decision. The Dallas Cowboys have 21 free agents to sort through this offseason, and they currently sit over the projected salary cap making for an even more difficult task. One of the players the team must decide on is offensive lineman Connor McGovern. The Cowboys selected McGovern out of Penn State in the third round of the 2019 draft and since entering the league he’s played in 45 games, starting 29. Although he’s never been mentioned as one of the better players on the offensive line, McGovern has been solid. The versatility from the four-year veteran is something that cannot be overlooked. In college, McGovern played both guard spots, and center, while in Dallas he has been used on both sides at guard. McGovern has filled in for right guard Zack Martin when he’s missed time and started 15 games at left guard last year. The offense also has lined McGovern up as a fullback and tight end with success. Another positive with McGovern is his ability to play clean football, garnering just two penalties in his three playing seasons (he missed his rookie year with a torn pectoral muscle). McGovern wasn’t flagged for a single infraction in 2022 and has played 2,015 career snaps and been flagged just twice. The Cowboys have been one of the most penalized teams in the league in recent years, so having someone they can count on to be disciplined enough not to hurt the team is huge plus. Playing clean is tough enough but doing it while playing multiple places on the offensive line is an impressive feat. McGovern is also just 25-years old, and his best football could still be ahead of him. If the Cowboys want to retain a young versatile piece of their offensive line at a good age, they’ll try to re-sign him. It helps that McGovern won’t cost near what the top free agents at guard will command since he isn’t as accomplished as some of the other options. However, because of his age and with teams desperate to upgrade their offensive lines, McGovern could be seen as a bargain for a franchise looking for interior help. There simply aren’t enough good offensive linemen around the league. The Cowboys are in a place where they need to consider all options on the offensive line and what they do elsewhere could determine McGovern’s fate with the team. There isn’t much depth on the interior of the team’s offensive line, with Matt Farniok currently as the only other guard with much experience on the roster. There are options and the team does have some versatility with the offensive line, but that means making more decisions throughout the unit. Dallas drafted Tyler Smith to be their left tackle of the future, but the team began him at left guard. Smith was supposed to gain experience in his first year before moving to LT, but those plans didn’t work out. When veteran LT Tyron Smith was hurt in preseason, the rookie was shifted outside and McGovern was inserted into the starting lineup. This offseason, the Cowboys need to make a decision on Tyron Smith. Do they keep the mammoth tackle and move Tyler Smith back to guard for another year of acclimating, or do they release the veteran, save over $13 million on the cap and accelerate the younger Smith’s learning curve yet again? And what if Dallas isn’t comfortable with right tackle Terence Steele’s health after his torn ACL suffered late in the year? The team moved Tyron Smith over to RT tackle while using Tyler Smith and Jason Peters at LT when Steele got hurt. Steele is also a free agent, albeit a restricted one, and the team needs a contingency for him as well. Those decisions on the Smiths and Steele could be a factor in what the Cowboys do with McGovern. He’s not the biggest piece of the free agent puzzle in Dallas, but the team should strongly consider re-signing McGovern if the price is right. McGovern isn’t one of the best guards in the league, but he’s a solid player, and is a good fit with the team because of his versatility, toughness, and ability to avoid penalties. McGovern doesn’t feel like a priority free agent for the Cowboys, but he does feel like a valuable player to retain. 22 6 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Signing UFA G's is a start, but what they do at WR tells the story. 2021-22 showed that the bare minimum + Josh won't get it done. EDIT: Like that he's mobile and solid in pass pro. Not the mauling type who's a liability on passing downs. Edited March 13, 2023 by BillsVet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Young guy with some upside. Started 15 games for the Boys last season. Fine move by me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Is he good?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: Well it's safe to say that Beane started to do what we all wanted him to do. The question now is if he chose the right guy Exactly. The money isn't crazy and it's all about how he fits/performs. Way to go Beane, I hope this is a hit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Starter on one of the better OL in the league. Yep immediate upgrade over Saffold. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Idk how to feel. Wasn’t the jets oline terrible last year? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Never gets called for penalties. I like it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 We will see how it plays out but right now I feel like its an overpay. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Sounds good. Plug him in and keep building. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, GETTOTHE50 said: Idk how to feel. Wasn’t the jets oline terrible last year? This is the Cowboys one 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, GETTOTHE50 said: Idk how to feel. Wasn’t the jets oline terrible last year? different player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/cowboys-connor-mcgovern-free-agency/ Who to bring back and who to allow to test free-agent waters is never an easy decision. The Dallas Cowboys have 21 free agents to sort through this offseason, and they currently sit over the projected salary cap making for an even more difficult task. One of the players the team must decide on is offensive lineman Connor McGovern. The Cowboys selected McGovern out of Penn State in the third round of the 2019 draft and since entering the league he’s played in 45 games, starting 29. Although he’s never been mentioned as one of the better players on the offensive line, McGovern has been solid. The versatility from the four-year veteran is something that cannot be overlooked. In college, McGovern played both guard spots, and center, while in Dallas he has been used on both sides at guard. McGovern has filled in for right guard Zack Martin when he’s missed time and started 15 games at left guard last year. The offense also has lined McGovern up as a fullback and tight end with success. Another positive with McGovern is his ability to play clean football, garnering just two penalties in his three playing seasons (he missed his rookie year with a torn pectoral muscle). McGovern wasn’t flagged for a single infraction in 2022 and has played 2,015 career snaps and been flagged just twice. The Cowboys have been one of the most penalized teams in the league in recent years, so having someone they can count on to be disciplined enough not to hurt the team is huge plus. Playing clean is tough enough but doing it while playing multiple places on the offensive line is an impressive feat. McGovern is also just 25-years old, and his best football could still be ahead of him. If the Cowboys want to retain a young versatile piece of their offensive line at a good age, they’ll try to re-sign him. It helps that McGovern won’t cost near what the top free agents at guard will command since he isn’t as accomplished as some of the other options. However, because of his age and with teams desperate to upgrade their offensive lines, McGovern could be seen as a bargain for a franchise looking for interior help. There simply aren’t enough good offensive linemen around the league. The Cowboys are in a place where they need to consider all options on the offensive line and what they do elsewhere could determine McGovern’s fate with the team. There isn’t much depth on the interior of the team’s offensive line, with Matt Farniok currently as the only other guard with much experience on the roster. There are options and the team does have some versatility with the offensive line, but that means making more decisions throughout the unit. Dallas drafted Tyler Smith to be their left tackle of the future, but the team began him at left guard. Smith was supposed to gain experience in his first year before moving to LT, but those plans didn’t work out. When veteran LT Tyron Smith was hurt in preseason, the rookie was shifted outside and McGovern was inserted into the starting lineup. This offseason, the Cowboys need to make a decision on Tyron Smith. Do they keep the mammoth tackle and move Tyler Smith back to guard for another year of acclimating, or do they release the veteran, save over $13 million on the cap and accelerate the younger Smith’s learning curve yet again? And what if Dallas isn’t comfortable with right tackle Terence Steele’s health after his torn ACL suffered late in the year? The team moved Tyron Smith over to RT tackle while using Tyler Smith and Jason Peters at LT when Steele got hurt. Steele is also a free agent, albeit a restricted one, and the team needs a contingency for him as well. Those decisions on the Smiths and Steele could be a factor in what the Cowboys do with McGovern. He’s not the biggest piece of the free agent puzzle in Dallas, but the team should strongly consider re-signing McGovern if the price is right. McGovern isn’t one of the best guards in the league, but he’s a solid player, and is a good fit with the team because of his versatility, toughness, and ability to avoid penalties. McGovern doesn’t feel like a priority free agent for the Cowboys, but he does feel like a valuable player to retain. Thanks for this, didn't know a lot about him, but I really like what I am reading here and definitely excited to see what he can do here. Love his versatility they discussed, but also his discipline. A reduction in dumb a** penalties by the OL kiling drives would be a nice change. Edited March 13, 2023 by Alphadawg7 5 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, GETTOTHE50 said: Idk how to feel. Wasn’t the jets oline terrible last year? Different one. This is the one from Dallas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, GETTOTHE50 said: Idk how to feel. Wasn’t the jets oline terrible last year? Wrong Connor McGovern. There are two of them. One played for the Jets, and is actually a better player than the one we signed. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Idk how to feel. Wasn’t the jets oline terrible last year? Different McGovern 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Average/ slightly above average guard but still with more upside. I like it/don't love it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: We will see how it plays out but right now I feel like its an overpay. To be fair, show a free agent signed today that is not an overpay. That’s basically all free agency is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I mean, it sounds like shooter McGavin to me but what do I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Good, sounds like Beane watched the two best olines in football played in the Super Bowl this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Ok good stuff. Feel a lot better now haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Good player on one of the better NFL OLs with Cowboys. Immediate upgrade over both OGs to be honest and can play center so long term replacement for Morse as well. need another OG and a RT Beane but good start. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 There are 2 dudes with this name!!! 🤯 I know Know nothing about oline play. What do the oline people think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 He sounds better than saffold, immediate starter at right guard I was looking at some other guys. This guy wasn’t even on my radar, but plenty of starting experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Idk how to feel. Wasn’t the jets oline terrible last year? Wrong one, it's this one: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Great first step! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 now get the other McGovern and other Josh Allen. in all seriousness, seemed like there were better guard FAs available. Hope this won't prevent us from drafting a great G/C in the 2nd if one is there. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Not my first choice but definitely a huge upgrade over Saffold. 7 minutes ago, extrahammer said: From USA Today about his PFF grade: "His 74.7 grade over the past two years ranks 13th among centers, his 69.8 pass-blocking grade places 16th and his 76.9 run-blocking grade comes in at 13th." I’m pretty sure that’s about the Jets center with the exact same name Edited March 13, 2023 by gobills404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 GREAT signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 He's a good young IOL who has had a number of injuries. My hope is that those injuries end in Buffalo. Good swing of the bat by Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: To be fair, show a free agent signed today that is not an overpay. That’s basically all free agency is. it almost literally means that. nobody else would pay more - or they would be there. But Contract details matter. 3/23 seems like a lot. But if it’s really 2/10 - it feels better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gflande1 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, extrahammer said: From USA Today about his PFF grade: "His 74.7 grade over the past two years ranks 13th among centers, his 69.8 pass-blocking grade places 16th and his 76.9 run-blocking grade comes in at 13th." Is that the one that plays for the Jets? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Great move by Beane... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, RyanC883 said: now get the other McGovern and other Josh Allen. in all seriousness, seemed like there were better guard FAs available. Hope this won't prevent us from drafting a great G/C in the 2nd if one is there. Totally overpaid for a dude who had a 52 PFF score. Yikes 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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