billvernsays Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Based on Beane’s PC yesterday I’m thinking we may be considering the TE from Georgia, Darnell Washington. He was saying to get playmakers and match up guys in the 1st round that make defenses second guess their personal. Darnell Would do this for us and he’s a blocking stud in both the run game and passing game. I bring it up because I haven’t seen him projected to us at all and he may be someone we haven’t discussed much and overlooked but after thinking about it I think he would look great in our offense allowing Knox to be more of a receiving TE and steam stretcher like Ertz was in his prime. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I am writing this all down 1 17 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, billvernsays said: Based on Beane’s PC yesterday I’m thinking we may be considering the TE from Georgia, Darnell Washington. He was saying to get playmakers and match up guys in the 1st round that make defenses second guess their personal. Darnell Would do this for us and he’s a blocking stud in both the run game and passing game. I bring it up because I haven’t seen him projected to us at all and he may be someone we haven’t discussed much and overlooked but after thinking about it I think he would look great in our offense allowing Knox to be more of a receiving TE and steam stretcher like Ertz was in his prime. As someone who watches a LOT of UGA football, Washington is neither a 1st round talent, nor a playmaker. I'd project him to us in the 3rd or later, and that would be a great grab. But definitely not a 1st and not even a 2nd. 1 3 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 With the needs that we have in plenty of other places, we are not drafting a TE in the 1st round 1 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Gross 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: With the needs that we have in plenty of other places, we are not drafting a TE in the 1st round Why not? If you can get a difference making TE why not grab one? Two TE offense can be dangerous as we saw with Gronk/Hernandez days in NE. I know people are banging the drum for a WR but what if we can get a TE that can move the chains instead? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: As someone who watches a LOT of UGA football, Washington is neither a 1st round talent, nor a playmaker. Agree. He is a good blocking tight end with some as yet unrealised potential as a receiver. A 1st round pick on him would be mad. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billvernsays Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I am writing this all down I can email you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 can he play guard too? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: As someone who watches a LOT of UGA football, Washington is neither a 1st round talent, nor a playmaker. I'd project him to us in the 3rd or later, and that would be a great grab. But definitely not a 1st and not even a 2nd. If he’s there for our second round pick I wouldn’t hesitate to Draft Washington. He’s going to be a better pro than college player. Would love that pick @ 57. But there’s TE’s to be had in every round honestly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, billvernsays said: Based on Beane’s PC yesterday I’m thinking we may be considering the TE from Georgia, Darnell Washington. He was saying to get playmakers and match up guys in the 1st round that make defenses second guess their personal. Darnell Would do this for us and he’s a blocking stud in both the run game and passing game. I bring it up because I haven’t seen him projected to us at all and he may be someone we haven’t discussed much and overlooked but after thinking about it I think he would look great in our offense allowing Knox to be more of a receiving TE and steam stretcher like Ertz was in his prime. Washington nah, but I think you are right that Beane is hinting towards a TE early in the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Could have had TJ Hock and not needed to use a early draft pick or free agency. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 All this discussion about TEs and not a single mention of Zach Ertz. Come on people! 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 PFF.com has Washington as the #4 TE in the draft and going early on day 2 so likely a second round pick. I would like to upgrade the TE position what do you gentlemen think of Mike Gesicki? He was a pretty solid threat in the passing game before the new coaching staff came in; he was an after-thought for Miami this year but I think he could be an inexpensive 1 year try-out and would be a big improvement in the passing game over the current TEs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Gross I'd rather have Bijan Robinson 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, HT02 said: PFF.com has Washington as the #4 TE in the draft and going early on day 2 so likely a second round pick. I would like to upgrade the TE position what do you gentlemen think of Mike Gesicki? He was a pretty solid threat in the passing game before the new coaching staff came in; he was an after-thought for Miami this year but I think he could be an inexpensive 1 year try-out and would be a big improvement in the passing game over the current TEs. That's a lot of TEs going early. Wow. As for Gesicki, I see him a TE in name only. Not too sure that is what Beane is looking for. @GunnerBillsays there is still some value in TEs in the 4th and 5th rounds. Sounds like a spot Beane could be interested in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, HT02 said: PFF.com has Washington as the #4 TE in the draft and going early on day 2 so likely a second round pick. I would like to upgrade the TE position what do you gentlemen think of Mike Gesicki? He was a pretty solid threat in the passing game before the new coaching staff came in; he was an after-thought for Miami this year but I think he could be an inexpensive 1 year try-out and would be a big improvement in the passing game over the current TEs. word on MG is big slot wr, doesn’t block or pass pro worth a damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: As someone who watches a LOT of UGA football, Washington is neither a 1st round talent, nor a playmaker. I'd project him to us in the 3rd or later, and that would be a great grab. But definitely not a 1st and not even a 2nd. I have NOT watched a lot of UGA football, but I know that the Bills have a very good (and highly compensated) #1 TE in Dawson Knox. The Bills also have many other priority needs: interior OL, WR, Safety. If they were to draft a TE in the 1st round, it would have to be a generational type talent. Like a Kyle Pitts. In my limited UGA football watching, I would stay that Brock Bowers is as good of a TE prospect as I have seen and a surefire 1st round talent. I don't believe he's coming out this year. I'm not familiar with Washington. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, mushypeaches said: With the needs that we have in plenty of other places, we are not drafting a TE in the 1st round TE @ 27, absolutely NO. Bijan @ 27 maybe? if the top wrs are gone. We need WR/OL in the first 4 picks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, billvernsays said: Based on Beane’s PC yesterday I’m thinking we may be considering the TE from Georgia, Darnell Washington. He was saying to get playmakers and match up guys in the 1st round that make defenses second guess their personal. Darnell Would do this for us and he’s a blocking stud in both the run game and passing game. I bring it up because I haven’t seen him projected to us at all and he may be someone we haven’t discussed much and overlooked but after thinking about it I think he would look great in our offense allowing Knox to be more of a receiving TE and steam stretcher like Ertz was in his prime. So basically you're saying we should trade for Ertz!!! We need to start a new 100 page Ertz thread STAT!!!!!! 1 hour ago, ngbills said: Could have had TJ Hock and not needed to use a early draft pick or free agency. HockStrap would've been perfect Edited March 1, 2023 by Sherlock Holmes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: I'd rather have Bijan Robinson You don’t say!! I would too. 😉 too bad we’ll have to trade up for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 hours ago, ngbills said: Could have had TJ Hock and not needed to use an early draft pick or free agency. Probably could’ve had him over Oliver in that draft too But even though I’d prefer to take an O lineman round one like John Michael Schmitz, I’m warming up to this idea of one of these stud TEs like Kincaid or Mayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 If Beane is set on who to draft in MAY, then fire him now. He’ll get a fine job as a psychic down on Main St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 hours ago, ngbills said: Could have had TJ Hock and not needed to use a early draft pick or free agency. What? Hock was picked before the Bills took Oliver. And Hock was so good Detroit traded him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: As someone who watches a LOT of UGA football, Washington is neither a 1st round talent, nor a playmaker. I'd project him to us in the 3rd or later, and that would be a great grab. But definitely not a 1st and not even a 2nd. Bowers though? Savage! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 I said it once and I’ll say it again if I’m drafting Darnell Washington I’m drafting him as a LT and no I’m not joking. As for TEs I can def see it as a possibility at 27. There will be a really good value player there and that guy can affect the run and pass game. Dorsey also loves 12 personnel. I just don’t see Washington as that guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Bills need to add a decent TE to the roster. I’m not suggesting using a first round pick or anything like that, but there has to be someone on the roster who can play respectably if Knox gets dinged. The drop off right now is immense. It would also allow the Bills to use 12 personnel if they could get a favorable match up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: What? Hock was picked before the Bills took Oliver. And Hock was so good Detroit traded him. True he was picked right before Oliver but Detroit didn’t want to pay him that’s why he was traded. Hockenson is a top 5 TE in the league and they probably should’ve kept him but because Campbell is a “TE guru” who played TE in the league he probably thinks he can develop a cheaper asset and Detroit already has a plethora of other options for Goff to throw to. But man did I want hockenson bad in that draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 hours ago, HT02 said: PFF.com has Washington as the #4 TE in the draft and going early on day 2 so likely a second round pick. I would like to upgrade the TE position what do you gentlemen think of Mike Gesicki? He was a pretty solid threat in the passing game before the new coaching staff came in; he was an after-thought for Miami this year but I think he could be an inexpensive 1 year try-out and would be a big improvement in the passing game over the current TEs. I really think Gesicki is a nice TE. I don’t know why Miami stopped using him under McDaniels. I suppose that they thought it better to throw to Hill and Waddle. I suspect Gesicki will get some nice offers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I really think Gesicki is a nice TE. I don’t know why Miami stopped using him under McDaniels. I suppose that they thought it better to throw to Hill and Waddle. I suspect Gesicki will get some nice offers. They need a blocking TE which not Gesicki's strength. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 6 hours ago, billvernsays said: Based on Beane’s PC yesterday I’m thinking we may be considering the TE from Georgia, Darnell Washington. He was saying to get playmakers and match up guys in the 1st round that make defenses second guess their personal. Darnell Would do this for us and he’s a blocking stud in both the run game and passing game. I bring it up because I haven’t seen him projected to us at all and he may be someone we haven’t discussed much and overlooked but after thinking about it I think he would look great in our offense allowing Knox to be more of a receiving TE and steam stretcher like Ertz was in his prime. Stop just stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, John from Riverside said: Stop just stop Why? He would be an awesome draft pick in the 6th or 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: Why? He would be an awesome draft pick in the 6th or 7th. We just gave a mega contract to a tight end that we don’t even use let’s start there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 6 hours ago, mushypeaches said: With the needs that we have in plenty of other places, we are not drafting a TE in the 1st round I think most would agree... I did not have TE on the radar at all, but I have to admit after hearing the Combine presser/interviews by Beane, the main take-away I got was they really like the TE's...The talk about match-up's, and adding another weapon that way...It definitely caught me a little off-guard...There is an outside chance no TE's go in the top 26...Outside...There is a decent chance one of the top 2 will be there at 27. Especially if the run is at WR and O-line. I still think it's a longshot. But I see clearly what their explanation would be if they went that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 I like LaPorta, out of Iowa. Think his playing style fits our offense, and would slide in very nicely as a TE2. Probably going in the 3rd round...that might be a luxury we can't afford, given our needs elsewhere: 1. OL 2. WR 3. LB 4. S 5. DT/DE - pass rush 6. RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billvernsays Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Stop just stop Don’t shoot the messenger but you can’t objectively listen to that presser and say that this post is baseless. Beane seems to love the TEs this year and I can see how it may help us. Two TEs on the field takes teams out of that Cover 2 shell. Gives us more ways to win. I’m a hopeless optimist (been a Bills fan since 1990) I’m trying to talk myself into this not being the end of the world if it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: What? Hock was picked before the Bills took Oliver. And Hock was so good Detroit traded him. And then dominated games in min. My point was we could have traded for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 10 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: As someone who watches a LOT of UGA football, Washington is neither a 1st round talent, nor a playmaker. I'd project him to us in the 3rd or later, and that would be a great grab. But definitely not a 1st and not even a 2nd. My guess is that he goes in the second round or early third but if he's there for us in the late third, depending on who exactly we have chosen in the first two rounds, I'd be good with him. He's a tremendous blocker and while he hasn't been used much in the passing game he's a nightmarish mismatch especially if he can hit the seams, as some observers say he can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: We just gave a mega contract to a tight end that we don’t even use let’s start there Draft an outstanding blocking TE (who btw I think can probably surprise as a weapon) and maybe Knox gets to run more routes. I assume that partly accounts for Beane's apparent interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, starrymessenger said: Draft an outstanding blocking TE (who btw I think can probably surprise as a weapon) and maybe Knox gets to run more routes. I assume that partly accounts for Beane's apparent interest. Once again, why would we do this whenever we can just replace that blocking with an offense of lineman for much less This would be a total waste of resources 2 hours ago, billvernsays said: Don’t shoot the messenger but you can’t objectively listen to that presser and say that this post is baseless. Beane seems to love the TEs this year and I can see how it may help us. Two TEs on the field takes teams out of that Cover 2 shell. Gives us more ways to win. I’m a hopeless optimist (been a Bills fan since 1990) I’m trying to talk myself into this not being the end of the world if it happens. I can honestly say that that presser is baseless Brandon Beane is not going to tell you what he wants to do before the draft and if you think that he’s going to do that then I got a bridge to sell you This team is not going to draft a first round tide in right after they give that big deal to Dawson Knox not gonna happen get it out of your head And you’re not the messenger you’re just posting nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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