Italian Bills Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 After a week where i stopped reading and watching about football because our brutal elimination game, i wish to know what would you do with McD, Dorsey and Frazier and Beane if you were the Boss and it was the day to decide their future: - McD: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Dorsey: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Frazier: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Beane: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Maybe i could be wrong, maybe it would be a very bad mistake, but if i was the boss, i would fire McD because this players need a new guide to follow, new motivations from the HC, someone they see like the one that can lead them farther, i feel that they (maybe not everyone) think it is something McD can’t do. I’ll keep Dorsey giving him a second chance. I’ll fire Frazier Not sure about Beane. I don’t name HC and DC names because i don’t really know who’s very good and available out there, considering college football also. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 The coaching staff would get canned. I'd probably hire Ben Johnson or Sean Payton. I'd need to take have a serious talk with Beane and get a sense for how much of neglecting the offense around Josh Allen over the last 3 years is on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Italian Bills said: After a week where i stopped reading and watching about football because our brutal elimination game, i wish to know what would you do with McD, Dorsey and Frazier and Beane if you were the Boss and it was the day to decide their future: - McD: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Dorsey: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Frazier: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Beane: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Maybe i could be wrong, maybe it would be a very bad mistake, but if i was the boss, i would fire McD because this players need a new guide to follow, new motivations from the HC, someone they see like the one that can lead them farther, i feel that they (maybe not everyone) think it is something McD can’t do. I’ll keep Dorsey giving him a second chance. I’ll fire Frazier Not sure about Beane. I don’t name HC and DC names because i don’t really know who’s very good and available out there, considering college football also. I’d trade McD and his staff to the Saints for Sean Peyton and with Sean comes Vic Fangio. I think the Saints would love to have McD as there coach and the Bills can win a Super Bowl with a coaching staff with 2 hofers on it with Sean and Vic. Edited January 28, 2023 by NastyNateSoldiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Fire: alll of them Hire: any bum off the street. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Fire them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Keep McD but replace everybody else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Resign. I thought Josh Rosen's floor was Eli Manning for gosh sakes. For the purpose of this exercise: I'd try to get Steve Wilks to replace Frazier. I'd keep everyone else as is at least for one more season. I don't want to overreact to one bad game. Edited January 29, 2023 by Doc Brown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I'd keep the HC, the GM, and both coordinators. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I need knowledge of the internal problems inside the organization And nobody is talking. Drop back and punt... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I need knowledge of the internal problems inside the organization And nobody is talking. Drop back and punt... From the opponent's 38 yard line... * 🎶Hey! Teacher! Let that defense play!🎵 Edited January 28, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I work on replacing Frazier. Unlikely, but I try to move Dorsey back to QB coach (or some type of O assistant), or let him go. I'd be looking for an O coordinator with some more wrinkles to their offense. Someone that knows how to utilize the TE, and work the seam better. Someone that will Incorporate some more quick passing concepts, slants, swings, screens. Someone that can help us generate a little more offensive rhythm more consistently. I start making calls to move everyone on the D-line that is not Von, Groot, or Daquan. I re-sign Maine. I draft WR, CB, DL/OL. Maybe I look to FA to retool the O line a little bit. I have concerns about Morse's availability, and the rest of the O line underperformed, so this definitely needs to get addressed Draft & FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, babulator said: I work on replacing Frazier. Unlikely, but I try to move Dorsey back to QB coach (or some type of O assistant), or let him go. I'd be looking for an O coordinator with some more wrinkles to their offense. Someone that knows how to utilize the TE, and work the seam better. Someone that will Incorporate some more quick passing concepts, slants, swings, screens. Someone that can help us generate a little more offensive rhythm more consistently. I start making calls to move everyone on the D-line that is not Von, Groot, or Daquan. I re-sign Maine. I draft WR, CB, DL/OL. Maybe I look to FA to retool the O line a little bit. I have concerns about Morse's availability, and the rest of the O line underperformed, so this definitely needs to get addressed Draft & FA. I feel you about Dorsey, all along the year i was repeating again and again about using very much more the short passing game, as you stated here more slants, curls, screen, etc, between 5 and the 10 yards per throw. After all, the great cannon Josh’s arm is become our first weak point, because Dorsey relied on it too muchhh ! So maybe.. after this very first year he could have learned some thing about it and change his offense mixing it much more. Or maybe someone (the HC ???) can light it up to him. If not, bye bye Dorsey. Edited January 28, 2023 by Italian Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Italian Bills said: After a week where i stopped reading and watching about football because our brutal elimination game, i wish to know what would you do with McD, Dorsey and Frazier and Beane if you were the Boss and it was the day to decide their future: - McD: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Dorsey: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Frazier: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Beane: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Maybe i could be wrong, maybe it would be a very bad mistake, but if i was the boss, i would fire McD because this players need a new guide to follow, new motivations from the HC, someone they see like the one that can lead them farther, i feel that they (maybe not everyone) think it is something McD can’t do. I’ll keep Dorsey giving him a second chance. I’ll fire Frazier Not sure about Beane. I don’t name HC and DC names because i don’t really know who’s very good and available out there, considering college football also. McD: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Keep - Dorsey: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Keep - Frazier: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Keep - Beane: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Keep 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Stay the course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: McD: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Keep - Dorsey: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Keep - Frazier: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Keep - Beane: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Keep the ONLY on that is on this list that might have a little ? Mark on him at this point would be Frazier. If they agree to mutually move on and not extend his expiring contract. The replacement is already on the staff in Eric Washington IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: the ONLY on that is on this list that might have a little ? Mark on him at this point would be Frazier. If they agree to mutually move on and not extend his expiring contract. The replacement is already on the staff in Eric Washington IMO But Washington is who can't or wasn't able to develop the talent FO has bring to the spot he trains. I'm on the bring S. Wilks but as assistant, put some pressure on Frazier as his probable replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Fans wanted Andy Reid gone, too, because he couldn't get his teams over the hump. It's not the coaching. Or to the degree that it is--squib kick, anyone?--the next staff won't be any better overall, and the risk of regression is way too high. No, the solution is obvious: more talent on offense. Beane has gotten exactly ONE big thing right on offense: drafting Allen. Even with Diggs he could have had a cheaper, better player in Jefferson (along with extra picks). If you want to upgrade something, start by upgrading Beane's scouting- and pro-personnel staff. Beane is blowing it as we watch. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I fire McD and hire Gregg Williams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I'd keep the HC, the GM, and both coordinators. Well come, that's not fair Gunner! You have benefit of 20/20 hindsight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Trade Josh Allen for 5 1st round picks and get Josh Rosen or Baker Mayfield who I had as better prospects coming out of college so they must be better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 - Beane stays but we put a huge investment in finding scouts who actually know what makes a stud O lineman and D lineman. Beane is a magician with the cap and is a natural with the poker aspect of being a GM no way I let him go but he needs help in the trenches. - I absolutely love McDermott as a human being and leader of men but the game management and unimaginative vanilla defensive and offensive playcalling the last few years has to fall on someone. I’d keep him with the condition that this is a make or break year and that he goes down with the ship if we don’t make the SB next year. I also tell him it’s time for him to let someone else take over the D and he sticks to head coaching. Advice is fine but leave the schemes to the new D coordinator. - convince Fraizer it’s time to hang them up and hope he retires if he’s not ready then we let him go and hire Brian Flores as the new D coordinator. You know he’d be salivating at the chance to stick it to the dolphins and he’d get the most out of the players we have on the roster without us having to do much with the d in the offseason - My gut says fire Dorsey but if I bring him in and he convinces me that because this was his first year as an OC he didn’t want to get too crazy with playcallong and shows me he has big creative plans for the future to get playmakers like Hines, Cook, shakir in space I may give him one more shot. If my gut after the meeting feels like nothing is really going to change from this year I can him and bring up Joe Brady (because if you don’t he’s walking too). I feel like if we fire Dorsey and don’t hire writhin we almost have to fire McDermott too and just blow up the whole coaching staff and get a guy like Sean Payton to bring his own way of doing things. next season we look like: GM - Beane HC - McDermott DC - Flores OC - Dorsey or Brady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I would put an All star cast around Josh Allen on offense and D. It would start with McCaffrey and Kupp on Offense and Bosa and TJ Watt on D. Beane can then come back and help us out with the cap afterwards as my assistant to the general manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 You DON'T make wholesale changes to a 13-3 team that was three wins from winning it all. Keep everyone and bring back a healthier Tre White, Micah Hyde and Von Miller, an undervalued Beasley and add in the draft. Oh and fix the interior of the offensive line. Bates at Center and a new Guard or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Hire a new radio broadcasting team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Italian Bills said: After a week where i stopped reading and watching about football because our brutal elimination game, i wish to know what would you do with McD, Dorsey and Frazier and Beane if you were the Boss and it was the day to decide their future: - McD: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Dorsey: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Frazier: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Beane: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Maybe i could be wrong, maybe it would be a very bad mistake, but if i was the boss, i would fire McD because this players need a new guide to follow, new motivations from the HC, someone they see like the one that can lead them farther, i feel that they (maybe not everyone) think it is something McD can’t do. I’ll keep Dorsey giving him a second chance. I’ll fire Frazier Not sure about Beane. I don’t name HC and DC names because i don’t really know who’s very good and available out there, considering college football also. I make @SDS an offer he can't refuse, then I slowly use TBD to brainwash Bills fans into thinking having a decade of playoff losses is better than a single Superbowl win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 34 minutes ago, poblano said: But Washington is who can't or wasn't able to develop the talent FO has bring to the spot he trains. I'm on the bring S. Wilks but as assistant, put some pressure on Frazier as his probable replacement. I don’t know I think Oliver and Groot are developing just fine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Day One: Get rid of Frazier. (I cannot believe an entire week has gone by and I’m still saying it.) He’s an easy sacrificial lamb. And there definitely has to be one! Firing the Safeties Coach? You’ve gotta be kidding me…right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I don’t know I think Oliver and Groot are developing just fine But only the highest draftees 🤔 Maybe more on players talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, poblano said: But only the highest draftees 🤔 Maybe more on players talent Basham is carving a nice little role. Epenesa never needs to be in coverage and was a lot this year. What other players are not developing? You know all that is on that DL are high draftees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Depends. I'd McD still has the locker room I'd keep him. I wonder if his message is getting old with some veterans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I’d keep everyone. I don’t think firing Frazier would do anything since he’s mostly a puppet to McD anyways. It’s mcd’s defense. Dorsey should get another chance to grow and learn. He’s a first year play caller. Josh loves him. Let’s see what another year and hopefully better players can do for him. Beane and McD should get this off-season to make it right with the offensive neglect. They are on notice now and just about everyone in the media and the fans know that the offense needs to be upgraded. Let’s see how they respond. If they don’t use resources (and I mean prime ones) on the o and it sputters again, they should be fired next offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Italian Bills said: After a week where i stopped reading and watching about football because our brutal elimination game, i wish to know what would you do with McD, Dorsey and Frazier and Beane if you were the Boss and it was the day to decide their future: - McD: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Dorsey: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Frazier: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? - Beane: keep him or fire him ? In case of firing him, who’ll be your first name ? Maybe i could be wrong, maybe it would be a very bad mistake, but if i was the boss, i would fire McD because this players need a new guide to follow, new motivations from the HC, someone they see like the one that can lead them farther, i feel that they (maybe not everyone) think it is something McD can’t do. I’ll keep Dorsey giving him a second chance. I’ll fire Frazier Not sure about Beane. I don’t name HC and DC names because i don’t really know who’s very good and available out there, considering college football also. I think McDermott and Beane are a package deal. I don’t think you can get rid of one and not the other. That’s Good from the perspective that it limits political finger pointing. They’re in it together so criticisms tend to get limited to the constructive type. I don’t think an owner should dictate the specifics of what his HC does to his staff. My conversation with McDermott would be about the recent playoffs failures and what he will do to to fix the issues going forward. He would not have to fire Dorsey, but I’d want to know that he has some real help next season. Defensive playoff failures and the relative contributions of him and Frazier would be addressed similarly I would have roster and resource allocation discussions with Beane and McD. I see a big imbalance between those spent on D vs O in such an O driven league. I’d want a plan to rectify that. While understanding that it was a very difficult season for a lot of reasons I’d emphasize the importance of fielding a true championship caliber team. On that note I’d stress how important of a component championship caliber coaching in the playoffs is and encourage them to make sure everyone and everything was in place to ensure that. Lastly I’d renew my commitment to helping them in any way I could to win a championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I'd keep the HC, the GM, and both coordinators. I’m sure status quo in the coaching staff will get us further than we’ve been next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I fire McD and hire Gregg Williams. Oh you..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 If I were Terry I would have never let Daboll leave. He would have been the HC of the Bills this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1. Let Frazier go 2. Finalize the new stadium construction deal and put shovels in the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I would DEFINITELY move on from Dorsey, and maybe Frazier too. Dorsey is orders of magnitude below the best/smartest coordinators in the league. Frazier is too conservative and literally does the same thing all game every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Fire the entire coaching staff. Keep Beane and let him choose a new staff and rebuild the roster. I don't think he is a genius but he deserves a chance to hire his own HC. McDermott has all the power now and he is holding the team back. You know it was him that decided to draft a smurf LB from a team in a conference that doesn't even play defense. Roster is messed up with special team losers at the expense of the line of scrimmage. Yes every team has a special teams ace. We had four(Jones, Matakevich, Neal, and Kumerow) at the start of the season. Elam sat far too long. Terrible. Benford should have moved to safety the moment Hyde went down. They should have known from practice Johnson was awful. I'd hire Jim Harbaugh and let him bring toughness and accountability to this team. Last year I would have hired Lincoln Riley but I doubt he would leave USC now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Rome wasn’t built in a day and restructuring this team can’t be either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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