Solomon Grundy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 4 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Where can we buy the Beane bobblehead? In other words... Don't want to speak about other teams property to avoid punishment 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: In other words... Don't want to speak about other teams property to avoid punishment I actually feel better after rewatching that video. I thought Beane said "we've only done 1% of what's reported" what he said was "sometimes" "we have done 1% of what's reported." Which means he's speaking in general with any player, not just Hopkins. Now nothing in that video makes me think we still won't keep trying. I just have a hard time believing ALL that interest was something that was just a phone call. All the people that reported it and made it definitive that we are interested, that stuff doesn't just come out of nowhere. We will see what happens Edited March 29, 2023 by Buffalo03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, NewEra said: They wouldn’t be- they’d renegotiate. And Hill is making 30M a year. Not 19-14 It’s kind of interesting to look at Hill’s contract https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/tyreek-hill-19119/ Of his $120M/4 year, only $72M is guaranteed. In terms of cap hit, he cost Miami $6.5M last season, $12.83M this season, and $31M next season after which they could trade him and take a $22M cap hit.if they so choose. It kind of seems as though the Chiefs could have come up with something that would work for them if they wanted it to. I think they felt their offense leaning on Hill and Kelce had been “solved” a bit, and it was time for re-work. Edited March 29, 2023 by Beck Water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 “Trust the process of not trading for Hopkins and continually losing in the 2nd and 3rd rounds” -Brandon Beane 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 54 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: “Trust the process of not trading for Hopkins and continually losing in the 2nd and 3rd rounds” -Brandon Beane My thing is why haven't they even tried to give Allen a second stud receiver before now? Bills management has been out to lunch for 3 years. One year okay, at some point it becomes an enormous failing and a fire-able offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: My thing is why haven't they even tried to give Allen a second stud receiver before now? Bills management has been out to lunch for 3 years. One year okay, at some point it becomes an enormous failing and a fire-able offense. Careful. There’s a ton of McBeane homers here that will defend their every move. Even if it’s the wrong one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadBills Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Bills!Win! said: “Trust the process of not trading for Hopkins and continually losing in the 2nd and 3rd rounds” -Brandon Beane He has to draft another running back in the 3rd we will never use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: My thing is why haven't they even tried to give Allen a second stud receiver before now? Bills management has been out to lunch for 3 years. One year okay, at some point it becomes an enormous failing and a fire-able offense. He thought Davis would clean up his drop rate and therefore be a perfectly good #2, so it's understandable. He was, sadly, wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: My thing is why haven't they even tried to give Allen a second stud receiver before now? Bills management has been out to lunch for 3 years. One year okay, at some point it becomes an enormous failing and a fire-able offense. I'm not calling you ignorant, but this post is. How do you know what's been tried and what hasn't? Answer: you don't. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: I'm not calling you ignorant, but this post is. How do you know what's been tried and what hasn't? Answer: you don't. He knows that Beane has been the GM and responsible for 5 drafts, free agencies, and trade deadlines now and yet we still don’t have a #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 33 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: I'm not calling you ignorant, but this post is. How do you know what's been tried and what hasn't? Answer: you don't. What big acquisition have they made that you can say 'Well shucks, they shot their shot but this one just didn't work out. You can't have 'em all.' Could be a draft pick, a trade, a free agent. There's nothing like that on the ledger. You miss all the shots you don't take, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 15 hours ago, papazoid said: would be even better for the bills than d-ho younger, lower cap for 2023 ($4 mil), and statistically a better WR who is trending up, while D-ho likely trending down Yeah but he's at that age where he's going to want to get his big cash in check. I do like in quite a bit as a player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: I'm not calling you ignorant, but this post is. How do you know what's been tried and what hasn't? Answer: you don't. Do or not do, there is no try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) Edited March 29, 2023 by Matt_In_NH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: My thing is why haven't they even tried to give Allen a second stud receiver before now? Bills management has been out to lunch for 3 years. One year okay, at some point it becomes an enormous failing and a fire-able offense. Gabe showed a lot of promise in 2021 playoffs, so everyone thought we had a bonafide #2 on the roster. It wasn;t till mid season 2022 that we started to realize Gabe wasn't progressing from how he left 2021 So I wouldn't have been looking for a "stud WR" at that point either. In fact we were looking for a speed burner or a slot WR last season not a bonafide 1b as I would call it. Beane gets a pass on not bringing in a bonafide 1b before 2022. Although I though he short armed the #2 TE position last offseason and we still could use an upgrade there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 43 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: What big acquisition have they made that you can say 'Well shucks, they shot their shot but this one just didn't work out. You can't have 'em all.' Could be a draft pick, a trade, a free agent. There's nothing like that on the ledger. You miss all the shots you don't take, right? You were/are whining about TRYING. Please explain to everyone how you know what has been TRIED. 21 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Do or not do, there is no try. Yet, that is what people have been whining about. Nobody can know what's been tried. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 If he ends up staying I’d like to know if not trading Oliver was the reason we didn’t do this trade. Or a major reason why. This team is going to need peak Josh Allen again come playoff time - and I shudder thinking about what happens if Diggs misses time. Couldn’t get that in 2022 because his elbow was hurt and we had a rookie OC. Allen can still win us games and Dorsey could make a huge leap, but we’d look like the 2022 Chargers. Who at least got Keenan back for the stretch run. All positions need to be prepared for hits to depth and it’s criminal we’ve prioritized WR depth the least since acquiring Diggs. I think we’ve upgraded WRs 5-7 but that’s it currently. I still don’t feel confident with the slot. Sherfield is an upgrade over Kumerow - I forgot Sherfield dropped that TD in the playoff game. I know - 75 yard TD vs SF. He is what he is. If Hopkins doesn’t happen I want to target a slot guy. A legit one. Even if it’s the draft it appears the best WR prospects seem to be slot guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 What's the prize if we get to page 200? The train is slowing down but 1 juicy Twitter post could be like rocket fuel. If Hopkins posts a picture eating chicken wings or beef on weck, sky's the limit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty shackleford Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: What's the prize if we get to page 200? The train is slowing down but 1 juicy Twitter post could be like rocket fuel. If Hopkins posts a picture eating chicken wings or beef on weck, sky's the limit We unlock the next set of stadium renderings. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellofellowbillsfans Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: If he ends up staying I’d like to know if not trading Oliver was the reason we didn’t do this trade. Or a major reason why. This team is going to need peak Josh Allen again come playoff time - and I shudder thinking about what happens if Diggs misses time. Couldn’t get that in 2022 because his elbow was hurt and we had a rookie OC. Allen can still win us games and Dorsey could make a huge leap, but we’d look like the 2022 Chargers. Who at least got Keenan back for the stretch run. All positions need to be prepared for hits to depth and it’s criminal we’ve prioritized WR depth the least since acquiring Diggs. I think we’ve upgraded WRs 5-7 but that’s it currently. I still don’t feel confident with the slot. Sherfield is an upgrade over Kumerow - I forgot Sherfield dropped that TD in the playoff game. I know - 75 yard TD vs SF. He is what he is. If Hopkins doesn’t happen I want to target a slot guy. A legit one. Even if it’s the draft it appears the best WR prospects seem to be slot guys. DOWNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mango Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: My thing is why haven't they even tried to give Allen a second stud receiver before now? Bills management has been out to lunch for 3 years. One year okay, at some point it becomes an enormous failing and a fire-able offense. Because QB’s on giant contracts don’t get two $20M WR. Davis showed a lot of promise, they were right to give him a shot. I still think Davis can be a very productive with a change in offensive philosophy, QB decision making, and OL upgrades. I’ll say it for the 100th time, if the solution for the offense with a $40M QB is 2 x $20M WR’s, you don’t have a WR problem. And I don’t think we have a problem at QB. That said, I have no issue with grabbing a WR in the top 100 on a relatively regular basis. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, BillsFanInRaleigh said: DOWNS I’ve been watching the highlights of the top 10 WRs. I do like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ddaryl said: Gabe showed a lot of promise in 2021 playoffs, so everyone thought we had a bonafide #2 on the roster. It wasn;t till mid season 2022 that we started to realize Gabe wasn't progressing from how he left 2021 So I wouldn't have been looking for a "stud WR" at that point either. In fact we were looking for a speed burner or a slot WR last season not a bonafide 1b as I would call it. Beane gets a pass on not bringing in a bonafide 1b before 2022. Although I though he short armed the #2 TE position last offseason and we still could use an upgrade there. He tried with OJ Howard, I think most of us thought it was a good idea until we saw it in person. You can't hit on everything, that said I agree TE #2 a big time need this offseason. Edited March 29, 2023 by The Jokeman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 @Alphadawg7 still nothing to report. the same 17 tweets have been reposted 49 times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I'm starting to think the Hopkins trade, and maybe a trade for Jerry Jeudy, will go through on draft weekend. There's no good reason for any team to rush it so might as well see what's on the board before trading the pick. I'm sure the parameters will already be worked out ahead of time, it just won't be official until the last second. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, boyst said: @Alphadawg7 still nothing to report. the same 17 tweets have been reposted 49 times. Hmmmm 17 tweets 49 times. Could this be a clue? 17 clearly points at Josh Allen who is still here but 49 points at Edmunds who is gone. Allen had a connection to Edmunds as they came in together and reportedly were friends. Allen would have a connection to Hopkins as WR/QB. So to complete the triangle there needs to be a connection between Edmunds and Hopkins. Could it be the hair? I think it’s the hair. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 44 minutes ago, rusty shackleford said: We unlock the next set of stadium renderings. Pics of the sparkling new chrome piss troughs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgg716 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, Mango said: Because QB’s on giant contracts don’t get two $20M WR. Davis showed a lot of promise, they were right to give him a shot. I still think Davis can be a very productive with a change in offensive philosophy, QB decision making, and OL upgrades. I’ll say it for the 100th time, if the solution for the offense with a $40M QB is 2 x $20M WR’s, you don’t have a WR problem. And I don’t think we have a problem at QB. That said, I have no issue with grabbing a WR in the top 100 on a relatively regular basis. Chase and Higgins. Kelce and Hill. They have to be 20m guys NOW, because we didn't focus on offense while the teams we are chasing did. We thought a DL rotation would bring a ring. Now we should pay for that error 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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boyst Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: dude doesn't even know the difference of up and down.... yet is a credible person? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) Edited March 29, 2023 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, cgg716 said: Chase and Higgins. Kelce and Hill. They have to be 20m guys NOW, because we didn't focus on offense while the teams we are chasing did. We thought a DL rotation would bring a ring. Now we should pay for that error I guess you’re saying these players are worth $20m because Only Hill is making $20m and that’s after leaving KC. Kelce made $10m last year. Chase is on a rookie contract still and Higgins made $1.4m last year. Point being it’s almost impossible to PAY two wrs $20m each. Ain’t happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dopey said: I guess you’re saying these players are worth $20m because Only Hill is making $20m and that’s after leaving KC. Kelce made $10m last year. Chase is on a rookie contract still and Higgins made $1.4m last year. Point being it’s almost impossible to PAY two wrs $20m each. Ain’t happening. Isn't part of the allure the idea that if Arizona eats some of this years salary, that this year would be 10-15M. with next year being 14.9M? I don't see why we'd trade for him and then restructure his contract to pay him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, cgg716 said: Chase and Higgins. Kelce and Hill. They have to be 20m guys NOW, because we didn't focus on offense while the teams we are chasing did. We thought a DL rotation would bring a ring. Now we should pay for that error Ummm soooo.... Chase, Higgins, nor Kelce make anything close to that, at least in cap dollars. And once it comes time to pay Chase/Higgins CIN won't keep both. And when the bill came due for Hill they shipped him off. On top of that, Kelce has cost more than $10M just 3 times in his career to date and that hit came in 2018, 2019, and 2020. All of which were around $10-11M. Even with that low number, KC still moved on from Hill in favor of allocating cap dollars elsewhere and relying on rookies/young WR. QB's who command high value contracts do not have multiple high value WR. They just don't. When you make huge money playing behind center part of the deal is doing more with less. That is not a criticism of Allen, it is just part of the responsibility of the contract. And as you unintentionally pointed out, half of those receivers will not be staying on the same pay roll as their very expensive QB's and other expensive counterparts. Go ahead and draft some guys. Do it regularly. Criticize Beane for not doing it. That is fine. But pounding the table that the only solution to the offense is to spend $80M+ on 2 WR and a QB is insane. If that is what it takes for your offense to run effectively at least one of those guys is way over paid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcg Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 29 minutes ago, Negan said: I won't believe anything until I see the Niagara Falls Twitter account 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mcg said: I won't believe anything until I see the Niagara Falls Twitter account Is incarcerated Bob posting anything about Hopkins to Bills. That dude blocked me years ago on Twitter lol. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mcg said: I won't believe anything until I see the Niagara Falls Twitter account i was going the other way. until the seneca tribe tweets it i won't believe it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcg Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, boyst said: i was going the other way. until the seneca tribe tweets it i won't believe it. At this point people are Believing anything this guy types And hes probably sitting back laughing it up with his friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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