Solomon Grundy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Greg S said: (1) Fins Talk Sports Network on Twitter: "#BreakingNews per @ArmandoSalguero of @Outkick - Mike McDaniel, Chris Grier, and Josh Boyers jobs are at risk if the Miami Dolphins lose against the Jets and miss the Playoffs next Sunday 👀 #FinsUp https://t.co/MiOT1bHHmm" / Twitter J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS, JETS!! The handling of Tua in the first Bills game wants me to want him fired!! Don't feed me no back injury BS when teammates had to hold him upright Edited January 5, 2023 by Solomon Grundy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, arcane said: Halftime adjustments, their D figured us out and despite hitting the red zone we could not finish any drives in half 2. Allen walked up and down the field yes, he bails us out from time to time. Miami executed better than we did and came away with the win. I'm willing to pass on that game if people really want to dig their heels in, because I'm not saying that the staff is BETTER than ours, but I think that team built itself for years to catch up to us and that preparation showed. They will not be an existential threat to us as long as allen is here, and our coaches are absolutely capable of swinging the pendulum back at them. In the second game I don't think there's any pushback to the idea that they out-coached us, and that superman Allen saved the day. They won, forced a turnover in a critical area, and bowed up to force red zone stops at key times in the game. The bills choked all their key moments in that game. So yes, that's generally how I qualify executing Josh threw a lame duck pass on an easy TD to Dirty. That’s not them executing. We doubled their yards, first downs and TOP. That’s not executing. Like YOU said….the Bills choked. Thank you for proving my point. Next. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, arcane said: Halftime adjustments, their D figured us out and despite hitting the red zone we could not finish any drives in half 2. Allen walked up and down the field yes, he bails us out from time to time. Miami executed better than we did and came away with the win. I'm willing to pass on that game if people really want to dig their heels in, because I'm not saying that the staff is BETTER than ours, but I think that team built itself for years to catch up to us and that preparation showed. They will not be an existential threat to us as long as allen is here, and our coaches are absolutely capable of swinging the pendulum back at them. In the second game I don't think there's any pushback to the idea that they out-coached us, and that superman Allen saved the day. They won, forced a turnover in a critical area, and bowed up to force red zone stops at key times in the game. The bills choked all their key moments in that game. So yes, that's generally how I qualify executing The outcoached us on one side of the ball second time. But their defensive gameplan still blew. The first time the Bills execution stopped us in the redzone, nothing else. The plays were there. We didn't make them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 hours ago, arcane said: I don't think this would be smart, I think McDaniel is a good coach. I think he outcoached our staff (a very good staff) in both games. The heat outcoached our staff in Miami, and They lost here so try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I would love this! I think he is a very good coach and I'd prefer he coach somewhere outside the AFC East! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 hours ago, May Day 10 said: Im kind of torn on McDaniel. X's and O's he seems like a savant. However, his general demeanor seems like he will have trouble getting grown alpha-males who are physically at the top of our species to follow him and go to the mat for him. He will get players to buy in when things are going well, but I can see things turning on him bad in tough times. I also think he was boorish in dealing with the Tua injuries and players pick up on that. IMO Payton is a bit overrated, although I would be frothing at the mouth for Ralph to open the checkbook for him if this were 2008. Brady could probably make that offense work, but that machine is a Hill or Waddle injury away from being shut right down. The Head Coach's job is not a necessary prerequisite to be the ultimate X's and O's guy. It's to be a leader so the players and coaches under him can have faith and confidence in the kinds of decisions as the Tua concussions and on field decisions McDermott and Taylor needed to force on last Monday. Of course other attributes are important for a HC to have but being a great coordinator means nothing without great leadership qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 wow. one season? crazy FO over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I think he flat out stunk this year. But that's not to say he can't improve. I don't know how you give him only one year to figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I enjoy the offense he put together, it’s a really friendly scheme. I was curious once it kinda got “figured out” taking away the middle of the field if he could adjust it, so far he has not. Their defense being so bad with that much talent has to be maddening for their fans. I would consider cleaning house if I was Miami. Some guys are just better coordinators. Some guys are better head coaches than coordinators (Daboll) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 48 minutes ago, NewEra said: We could not stop them?? They were 5/14 on third downs. 1/1 on 4th. They had 20 first downs. Which is decent amount….. but nothing close to “can’t be stopped”. Tua was 17/30 passing. We couldn’t stop Jeff Wilson? Interesting. Care to explain? Go look back at the tape. We could barely stop the run and the only reason we won that game was because of Allen and the offense. You forget to mention that Tua had 234 total passing yards and two TDS he pretty much did his job and did everything he could to help his team win the game. They were in the lead and should’ve won that game. McDaniel is the one who abandoned the running game which screwed things up for them later in the game especially since their defense couldn't stop a nose bleed. Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Go look back at the tape. We could barely stop the run and the only reason we won that game was because of Allen and the offense. You forget to mention that Tua had 234 total passing yards and two TDS he pretty much did his job and did everything he could to help his team win the game. They were in the lead and should’ve won that game. McDaniel is the one who abandoned the running game which screwed things up for them later in the game especially since their defense couldn't stop a nose bleed. Also I meant Mostert not Wilson jr. Mostert had 136 yards rushing on only 17 attempts. If McDaniel would’ve stuck to the running game then Buffalo would’ve lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: I also think this would be short sighted by the dolphins. But I also didn’t think Flores should have been fired. Miami seems to have a recent history of letting go of above average-good coaches. Adam Gase has entered the chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Go look back at the tape. We could barely stop the run and the only reason we won that game was because of Allen and the offense. You forget to mention that Tua had 234 total passing yards and two TDS he pretty much did his job and did everything he could to help his team win the game. They were in the lead and should’ve won that game. McDaniel is the one who abandoned the running game which screwed things up for them later in the game especially since their defense couldn't stop a nose bleed. Also I meant Mostert not Wilson jr. Mostert had 136 yards rushing on only 17 attempts. If McDaniel would’ve stuck to the running game then Buffalo would’ve lost I’ve watched it 3 times, just like Ii’ve watched every Bills. It seems you don’t know what it means when you say “we couldn’t stop them”. We most certainly DID stop them. Not all game….. but when it mattered most. To WIN the game- 6:04 left in the game. Tied 29-29. Thomas Morstead punter for 36 yards. His 4th punt of the game. Why would they punt 4 times if we couldn’t stop them? I’ll wait……and you’ll make up some nonsense to try and prove you’re right. But you’re still wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: Adam Gase has entered the chat. He wanted to go to the Jets. Unlimited ammonia inhalants thanks to Johnson & Johnson ™️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I think Ross is gonna go after Harbaugh. I think we can agree Harbaugh isn’t leaving Michigan for a rebuilding team in Carolina or Denver with a washed up veteran QB who the locker room hates. Miami has a good roster outside of the QB position which makes me believe if they get Harbaugh then they’re gonna go after Brady, Rodgers or Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Go Jets! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Greg S said: Agree but weren't they 8-3. To miss the playoffs at that point is a pretty big collapse. That happens to many teams losing a top 10 QB and relying on their #2 and #3 QB's. The winning isn't sustainable. We are lucky Josh is a warrior. 4 games of Keenum and we'd probably have gone 2-2 instead of 4-0 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I understand Steven Ross would like to have Jim Harbaugh be the head coach of his team. McDaniel has a 4-year contract reportedly worth 45mil. Perhaps Ross just keeps paying McDaniel and hires Harbaugh. Ross certainly has the money to do what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Greg S said: (1) Fins Talk Sports Network on Twitter: "#BreakingNews per @ArmandoSalguero of @Outkick - Mike McDaniel, Chris Grier, and Josh Boyers jobs are at risk if the Miami Dolphins lose against the Jets and miss the Playoffs next Sunday 👀 #FinsUp https://t.co/MiOT1bHHmm" / Twitter What a ***** show if this report is true. Yeah, they imploded but there were plenty of green chutes for them to hang on to continue with McDaniel. If they fire him they deserve to be a dumpster fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 These franchises are ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: These franchises are ridiculous I disagree. They are run perfectly. I hope they continue this way year after year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 McDaniel is a smug/phony tool that put winning ahead of his player's safety. Here deserves whatever happens if the Dolphins lose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Greg S said: (1) Fins Talk Sports Network on Twitter: "#BreakingNews per @ArmandoSalguero of @Outkick - Mike McDaniel, Chris Grier, and Josh Boyers jobs are at risk if the Miami Dolphins lose against the Jets and miss the Playoffs next Sunday 👀 #FinsUp https://t.co/MiOT1bHHmm" / Twitter I hope they don't fire him! I want more .500 football from the genius that was gonna make Tua an MVP. Edited January 5, 2023 by TBBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) "They out coached us" seems to have become a popular cliche over the last few years. Most people saying it are just saying it because they have heard someone else saying it but dont actually know specifics to make it a valid statement. Edited January 5, 2023 by Scott7975 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: We should hope for this. There’s only Payton out there and that will cost a boatload of picks. And it’s not like Payton won big year in year out. Sometimes I just wonder, where people's heads are at. Why would it cost them any picks? Just curious where you thought of this... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 He looked good until his scheme was figured out. He did have a good coaching game against Buffalo but Buffalo didn't press like all the other teams did. He also lost that game. He was also severely outcoached in the first game against Buffalo but luckily got a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said: McDaniel is a smug/phony tool that put winning ahead of his player's safety. Here deserves whatever happens if the Dolphins lose. How can you say that?! Cute, lovable, innocent McDaniel! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Sharky7337 said: Sometimes I just wonder, where people's heads are at. Why would it cost them any picks? Just curious where you thought of this... Isn't it because the Saints hold his rights and would want to receive compensation? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: I also think this would be short sighted by the dolphins. But I also didn’t think Flores should have been fired. Miami seems to have a recent history of letting go of above average-good coaches. Maybe to go after harbaugh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 As a Bills fan, I would welcome this. I think McDaniel is a very good coach... I'd have no problem with getting him out of the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Sometimes I just wonder, where people's heads are at. Why would it cost them any picks? Just curious where you thought of this... 8 minutes ago, NickelCity said: Isn't it because the Saints hold his rights and would want to receive compensation? Yes they do. Someone on NFL Network (I believe) was talking about this last week. They were saying they could get (or want) a 1st rounder for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 55 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Sometimes I just wonder, where people's heads are at. Why would it cost them any picks? Just curious where you thought of this... Saints retain his rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Sharky7337 said: Sometimes I just wonder, where people's heads are at. Why would it cost them any picks? Just curious where you thought of this... He’s under contract with the Saints. The Saints aren’t gonna let him out of the contract without getting compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: He’s under contract with the Saints. The Saints aren’t gonna let him out of the contract without getting compensation. When you retire that typically voids contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: We should hope for this. There’s only Payton out there and that will cost a boatload of picks. And it’s not like Payton won big year in year out. Payton is one of the most overrated head coaches in the NFL. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: When you retire that typically voids contracts. Not in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: I think McDaniel has done a great job with the offense especially with a limited Quarterback maximizing his abilities. I don't know if the guy will make a great HC but he is one hell of an offensive coordinator. He seems like a very bright X's and O's guy, but do I think he's capable of rallying a team that is tanking? Do I think he has the demeanor to consistently keep players motivated? I don't think our McD is a bad X's and O's guy, but I think his exact strength as far as raw leadership is the exact weakness of Miami's McD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Payton is one of the most overrated head coaches in the NFL. Agree. He hasnt done anything in like 10 years with Brees as his QB and generally a good roster behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 McDaniel is overrated and it only took the 2nd round of division games for everyone to figure him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Yes they do. Someone on NFL Network (I believe) was talking about this last week. They were saying they could get (or want) a 1st rounder for him. And lol the fish already lost a first rounder trying to cheat to get him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Sharky7337 said: Sometimes I just wonder, where people's heads are at. Why would it cost them any picks? Just curious where you thought of this... Saints own his rights. They are not just going to let him go for free 37 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: When you retire that typically voids contracts. No it doesn’t. JJ watt for example will be under contract with the cardinals for 2 more years. If he decides he wants back in, he either comes back with the cardinals and his contract resumes, or they have to cut/trade him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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