Big Turk Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) I'm not sure I have ever heard this before...kind of funny why it never happened as both QBs fell out of favor on their respective teams. https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/geno-smith-ej-manuel-buffalo-bills/amp/ Edited December 30, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Wouldn't it have been easier to just swap two bags of pucks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Not that Bills fans need another reason to appreciate JA17. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 40 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I'm not sure I have ever heard this before...kind of funny why it never happened as both QBs fell out of favor on their respective teams. https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/geno-smith-ej-manuel-buffalo-bills/amp/ "Trade EJ? Over my dead body!" 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst And for the 9 years leading up both were absolutely irrelevant and terrible. Geno is on his 4th team, he's 32. Both were terrible picks. 7 7 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Geno was my preference I couldn’t imagine saying I told you so though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: I'm not sure I have ever heard this before...kind of funny why it never happened as both QBs fell out of favor on their respective teams. https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/geno-smith-ej-manuel-buffalo-bills/amp/ Reminds me of Gregggg Williams claiming he wanted to draft Drew Brees in 2001. Revisionist history from has-beens to improve their bad reps. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst Geno has been in the league 10 years and hasn't done anything until this year which may be a Pete mirage because apparently Wilson is trash too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst Manuel was more of a "franchise QB" type due to his mannerisms. I totally think that EJ was ruined by the coaching staff of Saint Doug Edited December 30, 2022 by Solomon Grundy 2 1 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst We didn’t have nine years to wait for Geno Smith to develop 1 1 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Manuel was more of a "franchise QB" type due to his mannerisms. I totally think that EJ was ruined by the coaching staff of Gregg Williams. You mean Doug Marrone, obviously 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 This goes into the “one too many new threads” column. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Manuel was more of a "franchise QB" type due to his mannerisms. I totally think that EJ was ruined by the coaching staff of Gregg Williams. yes, EJ just needed more time to perfect his ability to miss receivers by a mile lol https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ej-manuel-threw-one-of-the-worst-passes-ever-gets-benched-for-cardale-jones/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: You mean Doug Marrone, obviously Yes, that maroon!! And the ex Broncos coach 5 minutes ago, prissythecat said: yes, EJ just needed more time to perfect his ability to miss receivers by a mile lol https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ej-manuel-threw-one-of-the-worst-passes-ever-gets-benched-for-cardale-jones/ Heeeyyy... Josh did it 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: We didn’t have nine years to wait for Geno Smith to develop He might have been better early on with the right system around him like what we gave Josh who was also a work in progress. No telling how it would have turned out but does anyone dispute that Geno is the better QB? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst Geno has had a terrible career up to this point. I think it's a wash. Bad QB class all around. 6 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: He might have been better early on with the right system around him like what we gave Josh who was also a work in progress. No telling how it would have turned out but does anyone dispute that Geno is the better QB? I just don't think it matters. It happened to long ago. Why do we need to dispute these things? Nobody cares. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Anyone, including Geno Smith, would have been better that TuhROD. 7 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: He might have been better early on with the right system around him like what we gave Josh who was also a work in progress. No telling how it would have turned out but does anyone dispute that Geno is the better QB? Before Seattle, Geno was just as bad if not worse then EJ. Either way, they both were God awful. Pete apparently is a QB whisperer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: Anyone, including Geno Smith, would have been better that TuhROD. Funny because Tyrod played significantly better then both before this exact season (geno), weird flex. tyrod was the qb that played for us when the streak ended, even if he was very average. Some bills fans have a weird hate for tyrod Edited December 30, 2022 by Kenosha2Buffalo 1 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 58 minutes ago, Airseven said: This goes into the “one too many new threads” column. You speak the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I mean, it was Wrecks and Rob Ryan, is the author positive he said “Geno Smith” and not “Genoa salami”? Or maybe Wrecks thought he had unfinished business in developing Geno as an NFL QB… https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/400554298 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Man the Wrecks era seems like a lifetime ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said: Funny because Tyrod played significantly better then both before this exact season (geno), weird flex. tyrod was the qb that played for us when the streak ended, even if he was very average. Some bills fans have a weird hate for tyrod Hate and jealousy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst It worked out for both of them 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 5 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst They were going to pick Geno. But when they brought him in for a visit he was terrible. Unprepared, disengaged, flunked the white board session. Geno's immaturity both as a person and a football player is why he washed out with the Jets. He was the worst decision maker on a football field I think I have ever seen. He always threw a nice football. He has one of the most attractive throwing motions in the game. His late career renaissance such as it is with Seattle (has fallen off somewhat down the stretch) is in part a sign of a guy who has matured. But while EJ is certainly not the best QB from that class had the Bills drafted Geno instead he'd have failed here like he failed in New York because he wasn't ready to be a pro. 5 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He has one of the most attractive throwing motions... Settle down, this is a family board 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 6 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst And yet some people wonder we we suffered a 20 year drought. LOL! It's healthy and re-assuring to read comments like yours from time to time, now. It's like a little slap in the face and brings you back to reality, so that you can better enjoy what is going on RIGHT NOW. Wakes you up out of the fog of winning all the time so as to better appreciate it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Manuel was more of a "franchise QB" type due to his mannerisms. I totally think that EJ was ruined by the coaching staff of Saint Doug No he wasn't. Despite his college stats looking good, Manuel held Florida State back from a National Title in 2012. I truly believe that. He was slow to read his progressions in college and had too many errors at Florida State. When Buffalo took him at 16, I knew he was going to bust after watching him for 3 years there. He didn't have the traits to be a great QB. Manuel's also threw a ton of screens and dump off passes that made his completion percentage look better than it was. He was the polar opposite of Josh Allen who was undersold on his accuracy because he played in a vertical passing game in terrible weather with a terrible team. Manuel had a fantastic team who played in great weather who couldn't accurately throw the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Manuel was more of a "franchise QB" type due to his mannerisms. I totally think that EJ was ruined by the coaching staff of Saint Doug EJ had it going before the knee injury against the Browns that night, so we'll never know. Doesn't matter , movin on from that for sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Manuel was more of a "franchise QB" type due to his mannerisms. I totally think that EJ was ruined by the coaching staff of Saint Doug Manuel left the Bills for the Raiders and in 2019 joined the Chiefs with head coach Andy Reid. He wasn't ruined, he just didn't have what it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Was he trying to get him punched in the face again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornfed Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Golden*Wheels said: Was he trying to get him punched in the face again? That's what I was trying to recall..... Geno was involved in a locker room situation where he either had his jaw broken or... he broke a teammates jaw. .... Regardless, it was not a good look for him or his team. ...... I was (like many) hoping EJ would be the answer to our QB problem. But he obviously wasn't. Ten years later, I'm getting a kick outta Geno having such a strong year this far into his career ..... I'm glad for him ..... perseverance paying off.... I actually didn't think he was in the league anymore. ..PERSEVERANCE Edited December 30, 2022 by Kornfed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kornfed said: That's what I was trying to recall..... Geno was involved in a locker room situation where he either had his jaw broken or... he broke a teammates jaw. .... Regardless, it was not a good look for him or his team. ...... I was (like many) hoping EJ would be the answer to our QB problem. But he obviously wasn't. Ten years later, I'm getting a kick outta Geno having such a strong year this far into his career ..... I'm glad for him ..... perseverance paying off.... I actually didn't think he was in the league anymore. ..PERSEVERANCE That was IK Enemkpali, who Rex later brought here. He decked Geno for not paying his gambling debt! Can you imagine Rex then bringing him here if IK was still on the team (not sure if he would have been)? LOL. Good old Rex. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, GaryPinC said: Manuel left the Bills for the Raiders and in 2019 joined the Chiefs with head coach Andy Reid. He wasn't ruined, he just didn't have what it takes. Chucky the QB connoisseur actually cut EJ from Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 We were stuck looking for a franchise QB in a terrible draft class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Gambit said: Before Seattle, Geno was just as bad if not worse then EJ. Either way, they both were God awful. Pete apparently is a QB whisperer. It is very interesting that Wilson has absolutely crashed and burned and now Geno is playing lights out. It does make you wonder how critical is coaching / system to the success of the “greats.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: EJ had it going before the knee injury against the Browns that night, so we'll never know. Doesn't matter , movin on from that for sure... We're on to Cincinnati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Rico said: "Trade EJ? Over my dead body!" Damn... Jussie Smollett looks good in Bills gear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Gugny said: Anyone, including Geno Smith, would have been better that TuhROD. Except EJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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