Updated Beasley signing to practice squad

[Solomon Grundy]

23 minutes ago, f0neguy said:

Sure, no starters at this time.  But I expect Elam, Cook, Shakir, Benford, and possibly Anderson to step up next season.  Beane is building long term.

Us Bills fans are like JG Wentworth, 800 $ Now!! We can look into the crystal ball after the season

[SoCal Deek]

Not trying to be that guy…but…with your shut down CB already known to be injured for the majority of the upcoming season and your #2 CB suspect at best, you definitely do NOT pick a CB in Round One thinking he’ll be ‘good depth’. I want Elam to play and I’m not exactly sure why he isn’t. Odd. 

[KHAN]

15 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Us Bills fans are like JG Wentworth, 800 $ Now!! We can look into the crystal ball after the season

We have no long term talent, and we need catches now!!!!!!

 

 

Don't lie, you sang the tune.

[BADOLBILZ]

11 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Isn't he injured?? 

 

 

Yeah but by unplayable I mean he isn't a receiving option even when healthy.   Doesn't get open, double catches passes........just lacks the necessary skills to be an effective NFL WR.   Blocker and special teamer only.

[KHAN]

[Don Otreply]

15 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Not trying to be that guy…but…with your shut down CB already known to be injured for the majority of the upcoming season and your #2 CB suspect at best, you definitely do NOT pick a CB in Round One thinking he’ll be ‘good depth’. I want Elam to play and I’m not exactly sure why he isn’t. Odd. 

Slow down and think about it, it’s likely his “zone” technique that is not up to snuff, it is not attitude or work ethic, as McDermott himself has stated, I for one don’t see this as being any different than the, albeit irritating, slow integration of nearly every rookie McDermott brings along. None of the rookies have ever played a season this long or intense in their lives, that and not every drafted CB is Trey White…, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[CincyBillsFan]

As an aside all this Beasley hate is an interesting social phenomena.  I would think that given the facts that have emerged since the end of the covid outbreak Beasley's comments don't seem quit so controversial today.

 

As to whether or not he was a distraction, I agree with other posters who point out that there is absolutely NO evidence that Beasley was a distraction to the Bills football team last season.  And if he can add just one additional 3rd down conversion per game that the Bills would otherwise not have gotten his signing will be more then worth it.

 

 

 

 

[Logic]

When I heard that Beasley signed with the Bills, I figured the thread on TSW would be an absolute banger.

So far, it has not disappointed.

 

[maddenboy]

14 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Seems that way to me, too.  I feel as though I read a lot of stuff here about "drops".  By what's scored, a drop is a ball a WR should catch with ordinary effort.  We have had some of those, but not as many as people think (exception of last game, when we had 5 scored - and no, it was 1 to Isaiah McKenzie)

 

But, I do feel that our WR don't seem able to come up with that "ooohs" and "aaaahs" contested, challenging catch.

Seems to me that the WRs who make lots of contested catches are playing with inaccurate QBs

 

That theme surfaces every year amongst the knowledgeable draftniks around here, wrt what teams need a 'contested catch' WR, and what it suggests about his college QB, etc.

 

I think our braintrust isnt looking for that type of WR, given who our QB is.

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by maddenboy

[dollars 2 donuts]

 

 

Ugh...just heard a leak that indicated Dorsey's game plan for Miami has Beasley doing mostly streaks and deep outs.*  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(* No, but would you be surprised? 🤣)

 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Ugh...just heard a leak that indicated Dorsey's game plan for Miami has Beasley doing mostly streaks and deep outs.*  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(* No, but would you be surprised? 🤣)

 

You heard wrong, it's jet sweeps that Beasley will be running all night.

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

It’s wild this much attention for a guy who averaged  8.5 and 4.3 ypc his last 2 years. 
 

never expected to feel this desperation at 10-3.

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s wild this much attention for a guy who averaged  8.5 and 4.3 ypc his last 2 years. 
 

never expected to feel this desperation at 10-3.

And how many of those plays were critical 1st downs. How much does he help open up the offense for Davis and Diggs

[HOUSE]

Got to say the Beasley signing is much bigger than most realize

So I will wait till later for the I told ya so's

Let's just say, Cole Beasley should have been a priority signing in the first place...he is Buffalo's Edlemen or Travis Kelsey,  very hard to stop

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s wild this much attention for a guy who averaged  8.5 and 4.3 ypc his last 2 years. 
 

never expected to feel this desperation at 10-3.

 

Just need a guy who will catch those first down routes that are being dropped.  

 

If McKenzie doesn't have TWO first down drops, on the second one, we get a first down in the red zone and perhaps put that game out of reach.  Instead we had to sweat it out. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

You heard wrong, it's jet sweeps that Beasley will be running all night.

 

 

 

 

No, Cincy, YOU HEARD WRONG. Beas will mostly option from the slot into the FB position.

 

 

[H2o]

7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s wild this much attention for a guy who averaged  8.5 and 4.3 ypc his last 2 years. 
 

never expected to feel this desperation at 10-3.

Yes, because those whole 4 catches from TB12 for 17 total yards is surely a qualifying statistic of what he can do.  He averaged 8.7 ypr in 2017 for Dallas as well. He can contribute. Josh wanted him. The team re-signed him. I'll take the 8.5 ypr stat line (which is probably closer to what we can expect), the rapport with Josh, and the fact he can actually catch the ball on a regular basis, unlike Stonehands McKenzie. And Beasley just became the 2nd best route runner on the team, 2nd only to Diggs. 

Edited December 14, 2022 by H2o

[dollars 2 donuts]

2 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Got to say the Beasley signing is much bigger than most realize

So I will wait till later for the I told ya so's

Let's just say, Cole Beasley should have been a priority signing in the first place...he is Buffalo's Edlemen or Travis Kelsey,  very hard to stop

 

 

Don't leave out that he is also Buffalo's Beasley.

 

 

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s wild this much attention for a guy who averaged  8.5 and 4.3 ypc his last 2 years. 
 

never expected to feel this desperation at 10-3.

 

Well, go watch his "subpar" 2021 highlight reel and let us know if you see the same production coming from McKenzie and Shakir?  Chances are, if Crowder didn't get hurt, we're not having this discussion, but here we are because we hurting in the slot.  Beasley had a nose for turning upfield and ducking under defenders to get a first down.   

Edited December 14, 2022 by Lieutenant Aldo Raine

[dollars 2 donuts]

15 minutes ago, H2o said:

Yes, because those whole 4 catches from TB12 for 17 total yards is surely a qualifying statistic of what he can do.  He averaged 8.7 ypr in 2017 for Dallas as well. He can contribute. Josh wanted him. The team re-signed him. I'll take the 8.5 ypr stat line (which is probably closer to what we can expect), the rapport with Josh, and the fact he can actually catch the ball on a regular basis, unlike Stonehands McKenzie. 

 

H2o, those around here who mistakenly think that some of us believe Beasley will come in here and go 10 receptions for 115 yards and 2 TDs, don't know who Beasley is, don't know who he was for his time with the Bills, and don't know why we are excited to have him back. 

 

...Now...Dorsey just has to use him the way we are hoping / what Beas is good at doing.

 

  

EDIT: @H2o It is not unusual to have the same people also be the ones who were telling you that this short yardarge slot receiver was washed up after having 82 receptions last season (and the previous).  A  receiving total, that besides for anyone named Diggs, hasn't been exceeded by a single Buffalo Bill since Eric Mould's 88 receptions 18 years ago in 2004, if memory serves.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts

[jletha]

18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s wild this much attention for a guy who averaged  8.5 and 4.3 ypc his last 2 years. 
 

never expected to feel this desperation at 10-3.

i dont really get why this move is considered so desperate. We have been in on OBJ for months, publicly had him in for a visit. That right there signals we have wanted to add to the WR room all season. OBJs health wasnt where we wanted it to be, but that doesnt mean we dont want to add at WR. So...we added a guy that we think can help us. It just happened to be Cole Beasley.

 

The other team that courted OBJ was Dallas and they *also* signed an aging vet WR. I dont recall many people here saying Dallas is so desperate. A team that feels they have a chance at a SB wants to add talent to the roster.

 

If you separate the specific player from the acquisition of a WR it is not a desperate move. Would we be calling this desperate if we had signed TY Hilton instead? In a perfect world, yes we wouldnt need to add talent at all. So its an admission that our roster isnt where we want it. But this is no more an admission of that than the courting of OBJ.

Edited December 14, 2022 by jletha

[CircleTheWagons99]

14 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

No, Cincy, YOU HEARD WRONG. Beas will mostly option from the slot into the FB position.

 

 

We added him for his blocking skills, Oline needs help......

[C.Biscuit97]

16 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

And how many of those plays were critical 1st downs. How much does he help open up the offense for Davis and Diggs

Not so much the last 2 years. Besides becoming a distraction, he is a declining player.

 

personally, I’m whatever with it. I think he said a lot of dumb things and acted like a teenage girl on social media but if he can help, he can help. one of the things I loved about football is takes players of all different backgrounds to come together. I do think there are some people who view him as some kind of hero and won’t be so accepting of a player who’s views they didn’t agree with, especially one who has been in decline.

 

but as one of the biggest fans of the Beasley signing at the time and who has one of his songs on my playlists, I hope he helps, I just don’t think he is the player some of you think he is.  But hopefully he makes some plays and can stay off social media for 2 months. For adult male, that shouldn’t be hard. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

3 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

We added him for his blocking skills, Oline needs help......

 

 

CTW, you leaving out the fact that they will use him on jump balls in the corner of the end zone is equivalent to an April 16th, 1912 news story with the headline "White Star cancels all Titanic cruises for the remainder of the year."

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

9 minutes ago, jletha said:

i dont really get why this move is considered so desperate. We have been in on OBJ for months, publicly had him in for a visit. That right there signals we have wanted to add to the WR room all season. OBJs health wasnt where we wanted it to be, but that doesnt mean we dont want to add at WR. So...we added a guy that we think can help us. It just happened to be Cole Beasley.

 

The other team that courted OBJ was Dallas and they *also* signed an aging vet WR. I dont recall many people here saying Dallas is so desperate. A team that feels they have a chance at a SB wants to add talent to the roster.

 

If you separate the specific player from the acquisition of a WR it is not a desperate move. Would we be calling this desperate if we had signed TY Hilton instead? In a perfect world, yes we wouldnt need to add talent at all. So its an admission that our roster isnt where we want it. But this is no more an admission of that than the courting of OBJ.

I just don’t think he is much of a threat at this point. I would rather have healthy Crowder (or McKenzie if he could catch). I wasn’t a fan of OBJ either but he is probably the better player and could be an upgrade and push all guys down the depth chart (if healthy which is a major question). 
 

 

[Ta111]

24 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Just need a guy who will catch those first down routes that are being dropped.  

 

If McKenzie doesn't have TWO first down drops, on the second one, we get a first down in the red zone and perhaps put that game out of reach.  Instead we had to sweat it out. 

Some People just don’t realize just how important 3rd down completions are. It’s often the difference between winning and losing. If we don’t have those drops last week the media is now talking about how dominant the offense was.

[NewEra]

32 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s wild this much attention for a guy who averaged  8.5 and 4.3 ypc his last 2 years. 
 

never expected to feel this desperation at 10-3.

Did you really just post his YPC from 4 catches? To prove a point?  Bwhahahahaha

Edited December 14, 2022 by NewEra

[C.Biscuit97]

27 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Just need a guy who will catch those first down routes that are being dropped.  

 

If McKenzie doesn't have TWO first down drops, on the second one, we get a first down in the red zone and perhaps put that game out of reach.  Instead we had to sweat it out. 

That’s a fair point. He just might not be able to get the separation anymore.  Dudes get old real quick in the nfl. 

[Aaronthebaron]

3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I just don’t think he is much of a threat at this point. I would rather have healthy Crowder (or McKenzie if he could catch). I wasn’t a fan of OBJ either but he is probably the better player and could be an upgrade and push all guys down the depth chart (if healthy which is a major question). 
 

 

But none of your other suggested options are available, therefore: Cole Beasley. OBJ is hurt, Crowder is hurt, and McKenzie hasn’t been reliable and we can’t wait for him to figure it out this late in the year. Shakiir is promising but needs more time in the oven. 

 

Beasley is our best bet at salvaging the slot this late in the season. 

[Ta111]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Come on dude. If you agree with him, it’s one thing. But he was challenging fans to fights (which is hilarious because he is the one guy fans could probably take).    Players live in their bubbles and don’t care but he certainly was a distraction to the team.

 

 

Love getting thumbs down for stating facts haha. Cole has become a cult hero. Good for him. 

Your facts are in a vacuum. A guy who averages 8 yards per catch but has a 90% first down completion rate is extremely valuable. He’s often the difference between scoring 17 points and 28 points. You’ve got to keep drives alive by moving the chains.

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Did you really just post his YPC from 4 catches? To prove a point?  Bwhahahahaha

How about 8.5 on 82 catches and 37 first downs? Is that a bigger sample size? 

it’s weird the groupies who feel the need to defend him like he’s some hero. He was in serious decline in 2021. The Bucs were super desperate at receiver & kept him for a week with Brady. 
 

if he helps, great. But some of you are kinda emotional defending the guy. He was crying last time he was here because he thought he was getting booed when people were saying Beas. 

3 minutes ago, Aaronthebaron said:

But none of your other suggested options are available, therefore: Cole Beasley. OBJ is hurt, Crowder is hurt, and McKenzie hasn’t been reliable and we can’t wait for him to figure it out this late in the year. Shakiir is promising but needs more time in the oven. 

 

Beasley is our best bet at salvaging the slot this late in the season. 

That’s valid

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Beasley’s best game ever as a Bills was last season at home against the Dolphins. 
 

probably a pretty good chance Beasley is active for this game I would think.

[C.Biscuit97]

3 minutes ago, Ta111 said:

Your facts are in a vacuum. A guy who averages 8 yards per catch but has a 90% first down completion rate is extremely valuable. He’s often the difference between scoring 17 points and 28 points. You’ve got to keep drives alive by moving the chains.

He didn’t though. It was 37 out of 82 (45%, his last season here). 
 

I hope he plays well and just doesn’t tweet. 

[Ta111]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He didn’t though. It was 37 out of 82 (45%, his last season here). 
 

I hope he plays well and just doesn’t tweet. 

That’s much higher than anything we currently have in the slot so he’s a plus for the team.

[Ralonzo]

"Why is a Beasley thread at 61 pages?"

 

scroll scroll scroll

 

Oh yeah.

[Pokebball]

13 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Yeah as we've seen........particularly when playing 3 games against division rivals since the bye........the Bills deficiencies in the receiving corps are well identified.

 

Nothing is coming easy in the air......except maybe situations where they play hurry up and try to trap opponents into favorable personnel matchups like they have been able to do at the end of the half recently.

 

But if you gotta' play hurry up to not suck that's not championship offense.

 

They are a station to station offense right now........the big play in any TD drive now is often a back breaking Josh Allen run.

 

But they lack a reliable 3rd down guy from the slot...........and washed as he may be.......Beasley might still be able to be that guy to keep the chains moving.

 

Even if you just look at the handful of small plays he made in Tampa this year.........those are things the Bills can't get(sadly) from Lil' Dummy or Shakir.

 

 

I'd add a reliable 1st and 2nd down guy. It would sure be nice to see more 3rd and 1 or 2s than we've seen recently.

[Boatdrinks]

Josh Allen ( according to reports) felt that bringing back Beasley (and Brown) was a great idea. That’s all I need to know. Certainly more important than some fans getting their feelz in a wad over our slot WRs opinions on twitter. I feel better about the Bills offensive prospects going forward than I did a few weeks ago. Cheers to “ the band” being back together ! Go Bills! 

[Ralonzo]

I would hope if Allen asks for Andre Holmes that Beane would stage an intervention, or put him in protocol or something.

[rusty shackleford]

7 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

I would hope if Allen asks for Andre Holmes that Beane would stage an intervention, or put him in protocol or something.

I heard Frank Gore is next on his request list.

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

IMO, this is the problem. This is a football team, not a summer camp. Football players are needed, not friends. Same with Knox. 

 

Yeah, I'd like to assume that Gentry fills a scout team role as well or better than any of the other WR so he contributes in that way.  But he's 27 and has 3 NFL receptions (back in 2017) for 35 yds on 7 targets.  He doesn't play ST.

 

Perhaps next year the Bills should focus the PS on stashing and retaining WR who might develop into capable NFL WR and contribute to the team down the stretch when injuries strike.