Rc2catch Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Tim Tindale said: This post demonstrates rational and clinical thinking, if not wisdom and perspective. You will never make it on social media. I struggle, and I normally don’t engage anymore especially for sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I am sure that some think we should tank and draft a QB. step up people and admit it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Well I for one sure am glad I didn't spend a rediculis amount of money on the bums rookie cards!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I’m not gonna name names, but there are some pretty stupid comments about our QB around here right now. I’ve never seen a bigger group of ungrateful cry babies than a bunch of people around these parts the last few weeks. This guy lays it all on the line on every play. Yeah, he has had a handful of plays the past few weeks that are not what we are accustomed to seeing from him. But I see idiotic comments comparing him to Wentz, saying he isn’t living up to his contract, he’s been trash, etc etc. First, how about some appreciation he even played today, and WITHOUT pain killers in his elbow. How about how he was the only reason we were even in this game. How about how he didn’t even look to protect himself despite playing hurt while scrambling to all game trying to win. He’s a warrior on every play and played hurt today. How quickly y’all forget what life around used to be before we were blessed with Allen. How about rallying around our guy? Don’t have to make excuses for him, he doesn’t either. But the amount of people straight throwing him under the bus is pathetic. End of the day…despite the offensive miscues…We are essentially 2 missed FGs and a miracle catch by Jefferson (that might have been the greatest catch I’ve ever seen) from being undefeated. Despite missing half our defense in all 3 losses. When we were healthy we were destroying teams. Offense has had 3 bad second halves in a row, now it’s time for Dorsey and Allen to figure out what is going wrong in the second half and make adjustments. I for one have all the confidence in the world still in Josh that we will figure this out. Chill out. I haven’t seen anyone “turn on Allen”, other than observing that he’s had a bunch of bad turnovers, which is undeniable. Most are frustrated at the coaching staff for inexcusable play calling, putting Allen in difficult situations, and squandering leads by refusing to run the football… Edited November 14, 2022 by mannc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, par73 said: The vast majority here want the Bills to win, so it is foolish to say many have "turned" on Allen. The fact is, his decisions and execution have been awful the last few weeks at key moments of the games. The inability to execute a center snap to secure a game is shocking (reminiscent of the Tennessee goal line slip). Sunday's game may be the most gut-wrenching regular season loss I have ever witnessed (and I have seen many). My main concern here is coaching. Daboll was clearly instrumental in Allen's development and success. Under Dorsey, I am seeing 20 yard passes on 2nd and 2. Hopefully this is just a bump in the road, and doesn't become a season on the brink. I think Dorsey's play calling is part of the problem. While I haven't done any analysis of formations, situations, personnel packages, and such, I suspect defenses have figured out his tendencies and calls. In overtime every call was a pass play. With time on the clock and two timeouts the urgency to throw every down just wasn't there. But Josh's return to hero ball decisions is more of the problem. The interception throw in OT was a terrible decision on a throw he forced to a receiver well covered. I re-watched the play several times and Singletary was wide open for a check down with the nearest defender 10 yard down field. It would have been an easy completion and at least a 5 yard gain down to the 15. In that situation that was the smart play with the clock and distance no factor. I recall earlier in the season an emphasis on getting rid of the ball more quickly and taking what the defense gives you. It's no magic formula at work here. Just get back to that next week. For both Dorsey and Allen. Edited November 14, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Well I for one sure am glad I didn't spend a rediculis amount of money on the bums rookie cards!! I am just thankful this is happening before they want people to take a mortgage out on a PSL! 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Right now this team couldn’t beat either of those teams. We haven’t scored a TD in the second half of the last 3 games. Just like they couldn’t beat New England in 2021? Let’s let things play out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, mannc said: Chill out. I haven’t seen anyone “turn on Allen”, other than observing that he’s had a bunch of bad turnovers, which is undeniable. Most are frustrated at the coaching staff for inexcusable play calling, putting Allen in difficult situations… He's got 20 TDs and 10 INTs, averaging 300 yards a game halfway through season. Next best is 25/7. What's 3 INTs and 5 TDs between the QB on the team Bills beat with a game sealing INT and hold the head to head tiebreaker with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Please. I just said we will win at least one SB with Josh and that we all love the guy. But he has made dumb plays the last two games that cost them victories. And it is OK to acknowledge that Like I said people where throwing his jersey on the highway after the Steelers game. This fan base misses Kyle Orton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckets Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 It's frustrating to say the least. He can be the hero and goat in the same game. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I think Dorsey's play calling is part of the problem. While I haven't done any analysis of formations, situations, personnel packages, and such, I suspect defenses have figured out his tendencies and calls. In overtime every call was a pass play. With time on the clock and two timeouts the urgency to throw every down just wasn't there. But Josh's return to hero ball decisions is more of the problem. The interception throw in OT was a terrible decision on a throw he forced to a receiver well covered. I re-watched the play several times and Singletary was wide open for a check down with the nearest defender 10 yard down field. It would have been an easy completion and at least a 5 yard gain down to the 15. In that situation that was the smart play with the clock and distance no factor. I recall earlier in the season an emphasis on getting rid of the ball more quickly and taking what the defense gives you. It's no magic formula at work here. Just get back to that next week. For both Dorsey and Allen. I think it's a mixture of Dorsey's play calling and personnel grouping. Why is Duke Johnson on the field on 4th and 2? You have 2 RBs, Cook and Hines, who you sing praises about but instead you put Duke on the field. Why is Quitin Morris on the field on that last play, running a vertical route to the end zone? Why is Singletary out there? You've got Hines/Cook who are your better threats in the receiving game. I'm not sure if it's Dorsey or who but I find it odd that you have these play makers and yet they can't seem to get them on the field? Why did they have 5 RBs active? Do agree that Josh's hero ball is more of the problem. Edited November 14, 2022 by Wayne Cubed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 7 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: It’s disgusting honestly. Allen is the only reason the Bills are even relevant, but that’s cool. Maybe Daboll will throw us a bone and unload Tyrod Taylor to us. Then we can go back to perpetual 6-7 win mediocrity. Like I've said in previous posts, this is the problem. Allen IS the ONLY reason the Bills are relevant!! This team rely on his arm entirely too much!! There needs to be more balance on the offensive side of the ball. First half the Bills were running the ball with some consistency. Second half not so much. The pressure on this poor guy has to be so immense. Usually the defensive side of the team would step up and help, but they are decimated with injuries. They should try using the ability to run the ball. Take the 2nd down and 2 yds out of the QB hands. Use Hines, Motor, Cook, Gilliam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I think Dorsey's play calling is part of the problem. While I haven't done any analysis of formations, situations, personnel packages, and such, I suspect defenses have figured out his tendencies and calls. In overtime every call was a pass play. With time on the clock and two timeouts the urgency to throw every down just wasn't there. But Josh's return to hero ball decisions is more of the problem. The interception throw in OT was a terrible decision on a throw he forced to a receiver well covered. I re-watched the play several times and Singletary was wide open for a check down with the nearest defender 10 yard down field. It would have been an easy completion and at least a 5 yard gain down to the 15. In that situation that was the smart play with the clock and distance no factor. I recall earlier in the season an emphasis on getting rid of the ball more quickly and taking what the defense gives you. It's no magic formula at work here. Just get back to that next week. For both Dorsey and Allen. You watched it numerous times, what would of happened if Gabe cut in instead of up? Edited November 14, 2022 by BananaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: He's got 20 TDs and 10 INTs, averaging 300 yards a game halfway through season. Next best is 25/7. What's 3 INTs and 5 TDs between the QB on the team Bills beat with a game sealing INT and hold the head to head tiebreaker with? I sorry, but I have no idea what point you’re trying to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, mannc said: I sorry, but I have no idea what point you’re trying to make. Allen is the 2nd best QB in league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: Allen is the 2nd best QB in league. Again, few people here would dispute that…the coaching staff is squandering another year of Josh Allen’s prime. Changes need to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsforumsucks Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I’m not gonna name names, but there are some pretty stupid comments about our QB around here right now. I’ve never seen a bigger group of ungrateful cry babies than a bunch of people around these parts the last few weeks. This guy lays it all on the line on every play. Yeah, he has had a handful of plays the past few weeks that are not what we are accustomed to seeing from him. But I see idiotic comments comparing him to Wentz, saying he isn’t living up to his contract, he’s been trash, etc etc. First, how about some appreciation he even played today, and WITHOUT pain killers in his elbow. How about how he was the only reason we were even in this game. How about how he didn’t even look to protect himself despite playing hurt while scrambling to all game trying to win. He’s a warrior on every play and played hurt today. How quickly y’all forget what life around used to be before we were blessed with Allen. How about rallying around our guy? Don’t have to make excuses for him, he doesn’t either. But the amount of people straight throwing him under the bus is pathetic. End of the day…despite the offensive miscues…We are essentially 2 missed FGs and a miracle catch by Jefferson (that might have been the greatest catch I’ve ever seen) from being undefeated. Despite missing half our defense in all 3 losses. When we were healthy we were destroying teams. Offense has had 3 bad second halves in a row, now it’s time for Dorsey and Allen to figure out what is going wrong in the second half and make adjustments. I for one have all the confidence in the world still in Josh that we will figure this out. Exact same thing can be said for the coaches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsforumsucks Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Allen has no ability to rely on a run game. Defenses know this and it makes his job much harder. Yesterday should have been a game where Singletary, Cook and Hines contributed for 25-30 touches!!!!! But instead we got 18. A one dimensional offense will not succeed. Minnesotas defense was 100% pass there at the end of the game. I was screaming to run the ball. 2 Timeouts, we needed to get to the 10 yard line and take 3 shots to the end zone. That play at the end shouldnt have never been the call. Minnesota was waiting for it. This offense has fell off a cliff. Mostly due to play calling and not running. MN D was not even covering the checkdown receiver in the 2nd half knowing JA would not make those throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Allen is the most talented QB in the league. He along with Lamar Jackson do more with less than anybody. Allen leads the team in rushing yards and rushing touchdowns. With all of this said, Allen deserves certain criticisms for his recent play. He continues his fumbling issues, has made terrible interceptions, needs to make the easier plays, and he, the whole team, and coaching staff have laid two straight "terd sandwiches." He's making a ton of money and is the leader of this team. Criticism is allowed. Saying he sucks, should be traded, or is liability are either dumb people or too emotional to currently provide a rational thought, comment, praise, or criticism. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsforumsucks Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, mannc said: Again, few people here would dispute that…the coaching staff is squandering another year of Josh Allen’s prime. Changes need to be made. That is just as stupid of a comment as benching JA, WTF are you talking about? We have probably a top 5 coaching personnel in the league if not the best. How about JA not fing throwing the game away each week, but hey coaches throw picks right? Idiot posters on this board, account closed cant take you morons any longer, f off all of you coaching morons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, Flucod said: That is just as stupid of a comment as benching JA, WTF are you talking about? We have probably a top 5 coaching personnel in the league if not the best. How about JA not fing throwing the game away each week, but hey coaches throw picks right? Idiot posters on this board, account closed cant take you morons any longer, f off all of you coaching morons. Yes, what immediately comes to mind the past three weeks is “what an awesome coaching staff the Bills have!” How many pissed away games is too many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 The play calling has gone to *****, Allen seems to have gone blind a few times and Gabe Davis is a flat out liability ( dropped catch he was gifted excluded). I don’t know what’s going on, but Dabs is certainly missed right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Flucod said: That is just as stupid of a comment as benching JA, WTF are you talking about? We have probably a top 5 coaching personnel in the league if not the best. How about JA not fing throwing the game away each week, but hey coaches throw picks right? Idiot posters on this board, account closed cant take you morons any longer, f off all of you coaching morons. Taking the loss really well I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 53 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Allen has no ability to rely on a run game. Defenses know this and it makes his job much harder. Yesterday should have been a game where Singletary, Cook and Hines contributed for 25-30 touches!!!!! But instead we got 18. A one dimensional offense will not succeed. Minnesotas defense was 100% pass there at the end of the game. I was screaming to run the ball. 2 Timeouts, we needed to get to the 10 yard line and take 3 shots to the end zone. That play at the end shouldnt have never been the call. Minnesota was waiting for it. This offense has fell off a cliff. Mostly due to play calling and not running. They literally breezed down the field in 30 secs at the end of the 4th and in OT. Sure they could've tried to call more dinks or runs during the last play but if defenses knew the O was one dimensional and 100% pass they'd not even let them go down the field twice in a row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I’m not gonna name names, but there are some pretty stupid comments about our QB around here right now. I’ve never seen a bigger group of ungrateful cry babies than a bunch of people around these parts the last few weeks. This guy lays it all on the line on every play. Yeah, he has had a handful of plays the past few weeks that are not what we are accustomed to seeing from him. But I see idiotic comments comparing him to Wentz, saying he isn’t living up to his contract, he’s been trash, etc etc. First, how about some appreciation he even played today, and WITHOUT pain killers in his elbow. How about how he was the only reason we were even in this game. How about how he didn’t even look to protect himself despite playing hurt while scrambling to all game trying to win. He’s a warrior on every play and played hurt today. How quickly y’all forget what life around used to be before we were blessed with Allen. How about rallying around our guy? Don’t have to make excuses for him, he doesn’t either. But the amount of people straight throwing him under the bus is pathetic. End of the day…despite the offensive miscues…We are essentially 2 missed FGs and a miracle catch by Jefferson (that might have been the greatest catch I’ve ever seen) from being undefeated. Despite missing half our defense in all 3 losses. When we were healthy we were destroying teams. Offense has had 3 bad second halves in a row, now it’s time for Dorsey and Allen to figure out what is going wrong in the second half and make adjustments. I for one have all the confidence in the world still in Josh that we will figure this out. Wait…you’re mad that fans are complaining about Josh’s recent performance? He’s not beyond criticism. Even to the Josh Allen “jockstrap sniffing “ crowd. Sincerely, Tremain Edmunds 13 minutes ago, mannc said: Yes, what immediately comes to mind the past three weeks is “what an awesome coaching staff the Bills have!” How many pissed away games is too many? Ask Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I'm not turning on him but he's needs to protect the ball. Too many turnovers........Obviously 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 .....and on it goes. Meltdown Monday ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 This is a super sensitive thread by the OP. I haven’t seen much of anyone “turning on” Josh Allen. The convo, justifiably, has been focused on how: This is now the second season in a row where the entire team slumps, coinciding with Josh Allen slumping. He’s way too aggressive and not seeing the field, specifically when he predetermines that he wants to take kill shots.. resulting in horrible turnovers. Coaching, roster building has let him down. We have no slot WR currently and that’s clearly affecting him. Its not all on him what we’ve seen since the bye, specifically in 2nd half’s… but it’s definitely some on him, and it’s ok to talk about it. He was elite Josh for most of the game yesterday. We win, he’s the MVP front runner again. We didn’t. And it’s because in the big moment he threw an absurd pick… one we’ve been seeing every game recently. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Allen is Brett Favre 2.0 He's going to have a long, amazing career filled with highlights and things that make even the casual fans turn their head. But he will also have alot of turnovers and may not ever reach the big dance because of that. Yesterday was two steps forward, two steps back for him. An unprecedented collapse at the end of a winnable ball game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, Captain_Quint said: Allen is Brett Favre 2.0 He's going to have a long, amazing career filled with highlights and things that make even the casual fans turn their head. But he will also have alot of turnovers and may not ever reach the big dance because of that. Yesterday was two steps forward, two steps back for him. An unprecedented collapse at the end of a winnable ball game. That’s not who Josh is. Josh had 4 years of like no red zone TO’s. This is new. Josh would be the first guy to admit he is costing us games with this stuff. It’s not his normal game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Im not going to bash anyone down on Allen but Im not sharing that just yet. IMO all QBs have some down games. A lot is on his plate. Different offense even if it using some concepts from Daboll, o line is not that great, they dont utilize the run game even when it is working, skill positions are pretty lacking other than Diggs. Some of the skill positions are streaky good but inconsistant. For those reasons, even though a big part of the blame does go on Allens plate, I can not totally blame him. His coach should be helping him with these aggressive bad decisions but it seems to me that his coach is fostering them. Allen needs to learn that there is a time to be aggressive and a time to take whats given. I blame that on coaching. Honestly this offensive coaching staff just seems to be bad to me. You cant tell me for instance that we constantly have the worst backs in the league and cant run the football. We got what 6 RBs and none of them can run? I dont buy that. Cook is rarely if ever utilized. Dude has talent and speed. I dont buy that he cant figure the game out just because he is a rookie. Hines is not a rookie and two weeks in he should have some semblence of the offense. Every trade around the league has made plays except Hines I think. That to me says they havent the fogiest clue on how to use a running back. Then we got Knox who made great plays last year. He's made what, like 3 plays in 8 games or something stupid small like that? We cant even run a screen play or a quick slant. To me this is all Dorsey. Plenty of players, coaches, and injuries are to blame. Dorsey is certainly near the top of the list. As of now, I'm confident in saying a few things. The Bills are vastly overrated, coached very poorly, and unlikely to win a Super Bowl. My disappointment is growing with each game. I totally bought into the hype. Shame on me. Edited November 14, 2022 by newcam2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Not sure 🤔 I’ve seen hating on JA just more critiquing & people being critical of bad plays. Big difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybills Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Yeah kick rocks. Allen has disappointed, but no where near a disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Bills Fan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I love when fans tell other people how to be fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I’m not gonna name names, but there are some pretty stupid comments about our QB around here right now. I’ve never seen a bigger group of ungrateful cry babies than a bunch of people around these parts the last few weeks. This guy lays it all on the line on every play. Yeah, he has had a handful of plays the past few weeks that are not what we are accustomed to seeing from him. But I see idiotic comments comparing him to Wentz, saying he isn’t living up to his contract, he’s been trash, etc etc. First, how about some appreciation he even played today, and WITHOUT pain killers in his elbow. How about how he was the only reason we were even in this game. How about how he didn’t even look to protect himself despite playing hurt while scrambling to all game trying to win. He’s a warrior on every play and played hurt today. How quickly y’all forget what life around used to be before we were blessed with Allen. How about rallying around our guy? Don’t have to make excuses for him, he doesn’t either. But the amount of people straight throwing him under the bus is pathetic. End of the day…despite the offensive miscues…We are essentially 2 missed FGs and a miracle catch by Jefferson (that might have been the greatest catch I’ve ever seen) from being undefeated. Despite missing half our defense in all 3 losses. When we were healthy we were destroying teams. Offense has had 3 bad second halves in a row, now it’s time for Dorsey and Allen to figure out what is going wrong in the second half and make adjustments. I for one have all the confidence in the world still in Josh that we will figure this out. Hey still is a great QB, just needs to make better decisions. Not turning on him for sure, without him were another 7-10 and non playoff. Even with our loss yesterday I am confident they will win at at least 12 or 13 games this season. Play calling needs to be better, 2 down & 2 at the 7 and we call 3 straight passes to the end zone. You're up 10 points. How about a shovel pass or even try running two straight plays to pick up 2 yards. Get the first down and it's first and goal inside the 5 yard line. On the other side of the ball , how about our defence gets a stop after that interception. The reality is Allen needs to stop feeling like he has to make endless amazing plays on his own to win football games. The check downs are there on almost every play because because don't want to give up the big play. Start using Hines more on passing plays, he has 4.4 speed and can start making teams pay with better YAC. Singletary does not worry teams because he does not have great speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, nucci said: I'm not turning on him but he's needs to protect the ball. Too many turnovers........Obviously That is where I am at right now. Only idiots you may have missed those JP Losman/ Trent Edwards years are totally crapping on him. Still one of the best QB'S in football who many teams & fanbases would love to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 40 minutes ago, FireChans said: That’s not who Josh is. Josh had 4 years of like no red zone TO’s. This is new. Josh would be the first guy to admit he is costing us games with this stuff. It’s not his normal game. Who cares if he admits it? Is that supposed to make me feel better about it? Just stop doing it! 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 9 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I’m not gonna name names, but there are some pretty stupid comments about our QB around here right now. I’ve never seen a bigger group of ungrateful cry babies than a bunch of people around these parts the last few weeks. This guy lays it all on the line on every play. Yeah, he has had a handful of plays the past few weeks that are not what we are accustomed to seeing from him. But I see idiotic comments comparing him to Wentz, saying he isn’t living up to his contract, he’s been trash, etc etc. First, how about some appreciation he even played today, and WITHOUT pain killers in his elbow. How about how he was the only reason we were even in this game. How about how he didn’t even look to protect himself despite playing hurt while scrambling to all game trying to win. He’s a warrior on every play and played hurt today. How quickly y’all forget what life around used to be before we were blessed with Allen. How about rallying around our guy? Don’t have to make excuses for him, he doesn’t either. But the amount of people straight throwing him under the bus is pathetic. End of the day…despite the offensive miscues…We are essentially 2 missed FGs and a miracle catch by Jefferson (that might have been the greatest catch I’ve ever seen) from being undefeated. Despite missing half our defense in all 3 losses. When we were healthy we were destroying teams. Offense has had 3 bad second halves in a row, now it’s time for Dorsey and Allen to figure out what is going wrong in the second half and make adjustments. I for one have all the confidence in the world still in Josh that we will figure this out. Our QB kinda looks like Fitzpatrick out there at times…..just from what I see. Kinda went from trusting him to win a game for us to waiting for him throw a game losing pick. He’s a turnover machine right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Allen is now a 40+ million dollar a year QB. Like it or not, that comes with a very short leash. when you play reckless, have the game in your hands (twice, or three times depending on how you look at it) and fail each time, you are going to get criticized. he leads the league in turnovers currently. hes playing more like Jamies Winston that he is Josh Allen at the moment. I’ve seen hundreds of QB sneaks at the goal line to get out of the end zone. I’ve seen one fumbled snap and that was yesterday. josh had Singletary wide open on a check down that’s minimum a first down on the game sealing INT in OT. He chose to throw in to double coverage. I still want him as the QB for a long time, I also need him to not turn the ball over. 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 The bandwagon fans are really starting to show over the past 2 weeks. There's a lot of problems with this team, a lot are injury related, a lot are coaching/scheming problems and a lot are on Josh Allen. All things can be true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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