Fix The Bills - You're the GM and HC

[SCBills]

We all know the weaknesses, worries, strengths and reasons for optimism with this team.

 

At 6-2, with a history of going into a lull around this time of year, what would YOU do?

 

Option 1 - Sign OBJ, obviously.  Lack of a true WR2 is clearly a massive issue this year.  Let's take that out of the equation for now.

 

If it's me:

 

-Bench McKenzie from the slot role.  He's killing the offense.  Some of it is on him, some of it is due to Allen clearly not trusting him.  Develop a package for him with jet sweeps, motion and goal line opportunities.  That should have been his role all along.

 

-Give Shakir extended run at slot and see if he can take ownership of the role and develop chemistry with Allen.  We have Kumerow back as outside depth.

 

-Use Hines heavy in the slot and as an Ekeler-type safety valve

 

-Settle on two backs and allow them to find a rhythm.  As much as I like Cook, this likely becomes Singletary and Hines.  Rotating 3 just gets too jumbled and I don't think it works for a guy who needs touches to get into the game and another guy who we're trying to integrate mid-season. 

 

-Force Allen to throw designed check downs to loosen two deep shells.  I don't care if he doesn't want to do it.. he has to.  Run designed plays that go to the RB in the flat or in shallow routes.  If they don't want to run the ball more, fine.. but if Knox is needed to block, we need a reliable short passing game.  Give Allen easy reads and nickel/dime teams to death 5-10 yards at a time until they react. 

 

On Defense, I'm sure they'll figure out the run game issues... They always do, let's just hope it's sooner rather than later. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1. Run the ball more. Singletary is effective. 11-13 carries per game.

 

Cook, on the field more 5-6 carries per game.

 

Aim for 20 runs plays per game, that’s still the Bills passing ~60% of the time.

 

2. We’ve been static in our personnel grouping. It’s Diggs, Davis and McKenzie.

 

Start rotating in Kumerow & Shakir, even if that means Diggs has to sit out a play or two, or Davis has to come off the field here and there, and certainly McKenzie. Start tapping into the depth on this team.

 

3. Figure out how to help the RT. Brown was being mauled in Kansas City and Miami, and Quessenberry was a turnstile yesterday. Rotate those two, use Gilliam, but it can’t just be take a good receiver in Knox and make him a 6th OLineman.

 

4. Look at your players throughout the game. It’s the middle of the 3rd Quarter and Diggs hasn’t had a target? Figure out a way to get him the ball. It’s ridiculous that he didn’t have a target until the last drive of the 4th, that’s unacceptable.  

 

 

[HOUSE]

Sign Ndamakong Suh and kick ass on Defense

[Solomon Grundy]

10 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Sign Ndamakong Suh and kick ass on Defense

This is Super Bowl run time, isn't it?

[pocoboy]

Use Probability Law to assume you are still the best team on paper, keep going, assume that the chips will fall where they may.

[John from Riverside]

First of all at six and two the bills do not need to be fixed

 

Now what would I do to improve the team?

 

I would notice trends in player performance over the past two weeks James Cook has improved reward that performance

 

I would recognize that the fact that they give shikur Playing time he does things with it it is baffling to me that they took him off of special teams and put Hines in but did not play him at wide receiver

 

I would recognize the fact that it is possible for Josh Allen to have a bad game and when we are throwing the ball to the other team I would run it more

 

but more than anything I would recognize that the season is a marathon not a sprint there are going to be ups and downs in every season and we are not going to win every game anybody thought that we were going to win every game this year was just setting themselves up for disappointment

 

I would also make sure that I am concentrating on the positives of this team instead of making wholesale changes the team is six and two have played some of the top teams in the league this year and beaten them already

[BuffaloBill]

Cut the entire roster and start over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People …. Really? We’ve lost two one score games.

 

 

[Dopey]

Don't read anything on TBD.

[Mango]

Put Shakir above McKenzie on the depth chart. 

Get Singletary going. 

Calm Allen down, he is too erratic at the moment. Ultimately spread the ball out and go through progressions. 

[FilthyBeast]

That's just it, to fix this team you may need to ultimately replace the HC and GM.

 

The biggest irony right now is that despite coming from Carolina and watching how Cam Newton's career was run into the ground they are trying to do the exact same thing with JA17 and ensure his shelf life in this league is exactly the same if not much less.

[Solomon Grundy]

Chris Brown is spelling it out right now on GR. Diggs has triple the catches of the next receiver on the roster!! Unbelievable!! Turnovers and tackling are problems too

[BuffaloRebound]

I’d put White on IR if he’s not up to playing some snaps on Sunday.  We don’t need that around the team.  These guys are soft enough.  Make a statement.  We need hungry guys on the field.  

[Motorin']

13 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

Cut the entire roster and start over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People …. Really? We’ve lost two one score games.

 

 

 

2 losses through 8 games by a combined 6 points. 

 

Definitely time to burn it to the ground and start over!

[ddaryl]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I’d put White on IR if he’s not up to playing some snaps on Sunday.  We don’t need that around the team.  These guys are soft enough.  Make a statement.  We need hungry guys on the field.  

 

What does Tre have to do with the loss yesterday.

He's coming off an ACL injury... Why would you put him on IR for the rest of the season when he is getting closer to being ready?

[Logic]

I'd do the same thing I do every year when we hit the annual "sky is falling" mid-season slump (yeah, I know, one loss doesn't really equal a slump, but they sure haven't looked like the same team from the second half of the Green Bay game onwards):

Re-focus, practice the fundamentals (blocking, tackling, catching, passing mechanics), don't panic, and get back to playing Buffalo Bills football.

I refuse to over-react to one loss against a division opponent with a really good defense. Football is a tough game, and the other guys get paid too.

Bills are 3rd in ppg on offense and and 1st in ppg allowed on defense. They're a really good team. They were never going 17-0. They'll get through this slump like they do every year and finish strong and this game will soon be a blip in the rearview mirror on the way to the playoffs.

 

Edited November 7, 2022 by Logic

[ngbills]

No one has mentioned OL? Well one person mentioned RT. Huge problem there. But really across the line. Morse is getting older, ditto to saffold. Bates is serviceable. Dawkins is our only legit OL. 

Edited November 7, 2022 by ngbills

[Nextmanup]

34 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Sign Ndamakong Suh and kick ass on Defense

I would love to have that guy, but what I would LOVE to see is us getting rid of smaller/athletic types on the DL and replace them with HUGE bodies.  They are out there, but not everyone has them.

 

I feel like you have to have one, especially in the middle.  Simply ask him NOT to be moved.  Let everyone do everything else around his brick wall.

 

 

[BuffaloRebound]

2 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

What does Tre have to do with the loss yesterday.

He's coming off an ACL injury... Why would you put him on IR for the rest of the season when he is getting closer to being ready?

Because we’re playing 2 backups at safety, a rookie CB on one side and a guy on the other side who returned 2 weeks after it looked like he broke his neck.  

If nothing else, play a few snaps and provide some leadership.  Gotta be creeping into his teammates minds about what’s going on.  There was hope he’d be ready week 1.  We’re on to week 10.  

[Freddie's Dead]

Never mind anything in your way, like the Salary Cap....

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

No one has mentioned OL? Well one person mentioned RT. Huge problem there. But really across the line. Morse is getting older, ditto to saffold. Bates is serviceable. Dawkins is our only legit OL. 

Not much we can do about it right now.  
 

Bills OL really isn’t a problem, tbh.  It’s not an elite unit, but who really has a dominant line anymore?

 

Chiefs spent all that money and draft capital for what?  Any good DL wrecks them.  Same with the Bengals. 
 

We have a decent group that is protecting/blocking for an offense that is way too predictable. 

[Irv]

I would just leave them alone and assume everything went to plan.  You just don't get it.  

 

 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2022 by Irv

[BillsFanSD]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

Cut the entire roster and start over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People …. Really? We’ve lost two one score games.

 

 

I would agree with most of OP's suggestions even if we had won yesterday.  It's not overreacting to acknowledge that McKenzie isn't getting it done and we're not utilizing our RBs properly.

[ddaryl]

2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Because we’re playing 2 backups at safety, a rookie CB on one side and a guy on the other side who returned 2 weeks after it looked like he broke his neck.  

If nothing else, play a few snaps and provide some leadership.  Gotta be creeping into his teammates minds about what’s going on.  There was hope he’d be ready week 1.  We’re on to week 10.  

 

 

ACL injury.. it takes time, and rushing it is not the answer... Also its the teams doctors and the HC thats making the call on when he is ready to play. 

[US Egg]

If only the present GM and HC heeded the wisdom whirling around in here.

[Orlando Tim]

My wisdom would be to stop the injuries from happening, why does McDermott allow such things?

[ngbills]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Not much we can do about it right now.  
 

Bills OL really isn’t a problem, tbh.  It’s not an elite unit, but who really has a dominant line anymore?

 

Chiefs spent all that money and draft capital for what?  Any good DL wrecks them.  Same with the Bengals. 
 

We have a decent group that is protecting/blocking for an offense that is way too predictable. 

Is the offense too predictable? Or does it appear too predictable when bad decisions and mistakes are being made?

Is the OL decent and Josh struggles at times? Or does Josh struggle when the OL is playing bad?

Do WR never get open or create separation? Or is Josh making bad reads or the offense is too predictable?

Does Knox never get open? Or does Josh never look his way or is he not a read on many plays?

[RoyBatty is alive]

Easy

 

1) Appoint Filthy Beast as GM

2) Hire Scott as HC

[mjt328]

Have Ken Dorsey, Josh Allen and the offense go watch some film on the Kansas City Chiefs.

When teams take away the deeper shots, they seemingly have no pivot.  It's just the QB running for his life and throwing into coverage, usually forcing it to Stefon Diggs.

 

The Chiefs lost their best deep threat in the offseason (Tyreek Hill), and have continued to roll on offense this season by simply being patient and attacking underneath.  They haven't been perfect either, but the shorter elements I see in their passing attack could definitely be a helpful adjustment for us.

• As many pointed out, we absolutely MUST get Dawson Knox involved in the passing game.  Hitting him with some quick releases would help tremendously when teams are playing back in coverage.  
• Slot receiver is a big problem.  Losing Jameson Crowder hurt way more than anyone expected, and Isaiah McKenzie is not the answer there.  I know he's a rookie, but I don't understand why Khalil Shakir is not getting more snaps.
• Nyheim Hines needs to be heavily involved, starting this week.  I want to see this team incorporate some more swing passes and screens.

 

The lack of adjustments (on both sides of the ball) are infuriating with this team.  

 

[Fleezoid]

1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Easy

 

1) Appoint Filthy Beast as GM

2) Hire Scott as HC

 

and then......steroids!

 

[boater]

Silly thread. All I've got to say is: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-gm-power-rankings-bills-brandon-beane-sean-mcdermott-rams-les-snead-top-the-

[Airseven]

It's too late. They needed OL help in the spring. 

[Success]

If the playoffs started today, they'd be the 1 seed.

 

Nothing needs to be fixed, imo.

 

[JerseyBills]

Consistently run the ball by a guy not named Josh Allen.

 

Our RB1 had 8 carries. Let this guy get in a rhythm for heavens sake. I know he only averaged 3 ypc but he has a lifetime 4.6 ypc. Let 1 guy get going and in a groove. 

 

Our RB2 had 4 carries

 

Thats 12 carries in a game we were leading or tied for over 58 minutes. 

 

It's unacceptable to abandon the run with a lead through 3 quarters. I can't stand it. I never will

 

Boom. I solved the puzzle

1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

Have Ken Dorsey, Josh Allen and the offense go watch some film on the Kansas City Chiefs.

When teams take away the deeper shots, they seemingly have no pivot.  It's just the QB running for his life and throwing into coverage, usually forcing it to Stefon Diggs.

 

The Chiefs lost their best deep threat in the offseason (Tyreek Hill), and have continued to roll on offense this season by simply being patient and attacking underneath.  They haven't been perfect either, but the shorter elements I see in their passing attack could definitely be a helpful adjustment for us.

• As many pointed out, we absolutely MUST get Dawson Knox involved in the passing game.  Hitting him with some quick releases would help tremendously when teams are playing back in coverage.  
• Slot receiver is a big problem.  Losing Jameson Crowder hurt way more than anyone expected, and Isaiah McKenzie is not the answer there.  I know he's a rookie, but I don't understand why Khalil Shakir is not getting more snaps.
• Nyheim Hines needs to be heavily involved, starting this week.  I want to see this team incorporate some more swing passes and screens.

 

The lack of adjustments (on both sides of the ball) are infuriating with this team.  

 

I agree with everything except the swing passes and/or screens.

 

Hines is definitely the best pass catching back but Motorvis no slouch by any means and Josh barely looks his way and always wants to push push push downfield.

 

I love 17 as much as anyone but can we be reasonable and hold the man accountable 

 

Motor should have had 8-10 receptions which would have opened up that downfield action

[BobbyC81]

5 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

I would love to have that guy, but what I would LOVE to see is us getting rid of smaller/athletic types on the DL and replace them with HUGE bodies.  They are out there, but not everyone has them.

 

I feel like you have to have one, especially in the middle.  Simply ask him NOT to be moved.  Let everyone do everything else around his brick wall.

 

 

What?  They replaced Harrison Phillips and Lotuleilei with DaQuan Jones (320#) , Tim Settle (313 #) and Jordan Phillips (330#)

[BobbyC81]

3 hours ago, ngbills said:

Is the offense too predictable? Or does it appear too predictable when bad decisions and mistakes are being made?

Is the OL decent and Josh struggles at times? Or does Josh struggle when the OL is playing bad?

Do WR never get open or create separation? Or is Josh making bad reads or the offense is too predictable?

Does Knox never get open? Or does Josh never look his way or is he not a read on many plays?

The OL is mostly horrible.  Josh is mainly in the shotgun and on many plays he has like a second to look downfield before a defender is closing in.  If he wasn’t mobile and more Bledsoe-like, he could be leading the league in times sacked.

[Buffalo03]

Has it come to this for a 6-2 team? 😂😂😂

[3rdnlng]

Let's look at the overall picture. The Bills are designed to get rolling and crush their opponents in the passing game. While their defensive line appeared to have solved last year's problems starting with the Packers game they allowed over 200 yards running. Few people watching or playing in that game could understand the Packer's strategy. They effectively shortened the game while being behind by 3 scores. Giving up rushing yards while being substantially ahead is most likely acceptable assuming that the Bills defense is protecting against the pass/deep pass. Now, we gave up what seems like a lot of rushing yards in both the Green Bay & New Jersey games. If our offense was doing what it was designed to do in the 2nd half of both games then there would have been less rushing by our opponents and more passing into a defense prepared for it. Neither of those teams were going to beat us in a shootout providing we were up to par with our offense. For whatever reason we couldn't score in the 2nd half of those games. In order to fix our defense we need to fix our offense. It would also be very helpful to get our injured defensive players back.  

 

Like it or not the Bills are built around Josh Allen. As he goes, we go. 

[Billsforumsucks]

We just need to run some 2 back sets with Gilliam and 2 TE's. Heavy sets and pound the ball to soften up the defense then let Allen do his thing. Right now there is no play action pass. Gilliam is a super talented receiver and blocker. Lets get THAT involved. Need draw plays and a ton more screens with Diggs and McKenzie.

 

Defenses are playing pass coverage only against us and for some reason JA cannot accept the check downs (As he did early in the season), with heavy sets he is forced to use check downs. Titans almost beat the Chiefs last night without a QB and I will argue they only lost due to the Refs.

[bmur66]

Would have went all in on a big time RB and starting caliber safety. Damn the torpedoes.

Edited November 8, 2022 by bmur66

[Nostradumbass]

I feel last year when this happened we refocused the offence on short passes and moving the chains and allowed Josh the ability to exploit situations where he had a good shot down field. I don't like the amount of deep shots we are taking.

 

Also can special teams step up with a play, blocked punt against Pittsburg last year, missed FG's and a fake punt yesterday.

 

They owe us a big play