MiltonWaddams Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Posts like this are a French benefit of this forum. I find that the team needs to improve its offense of line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Cousins has been playing pretty good. But you're right about Brissett and Goff The Vikings seem to play right into the strength of our defense assuming we get some of Milano/poyer/tre white back. I think keenum could pull that game out assuming our offensive line isn’t a disaster that could be a big assumption though lol I really didn’t think quessenberry was much worse than Spencer brown but man he may have proved me wrong Edited November 8, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: We can win some of these games down the stretch with mostly defense if we get poyer/Milano/tre back. The offense is going to struggle if the offensive line play doesn’t improve though no matter who the qb is they will have to run the ball and have guys step up in the intermediate passing game… the field without Allen is more compact, so it comes down to precision and execution. Keenum can run that offense. don’t get me wrong, this team will ride the Defense if Allen misses time… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 If Keenum plays the next 3 games, I think we go 2-1. That Detroit defense is a disaster. Would be like the Seahawks game a few years ago. And please give me Brisset against our defense. He has always struggled playing against us. Vikings in our barn is the biggest ? that I can think of. Could we move the ball and score more than 20 points? If we can, I think we win. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Traveling up for the Cleveland game next week. Haven't been to a game in years. The possibility Josh is out has me bummed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: I find that the team needs to improve its offense of line. *****Correct Grammar warning***** Wow I could have had a V8! Edited November 8, 2022 by freddyjj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said: Actually we kind of get boned on the Thanksgiving game as we play the following Thursday at NE...THEN we get the long post-Thursday layoff before the next game. 1 hour ago, arcane said: We won't, we play NE the Thursday after thanksgiving. well, ugh! normally, this wouldn’t be bad. But if Allen is out, we could use that time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I am not doom and gloom if Josh has to miss a month. I just don't want him to pull a Baker Mayfield and try to play injured. I wish we had retained Mitch instead of getting Keenum, but you must remember that Keenum played for both the Vikes and the Browns and so that is something at least. Our schedule is 5/8 games at home and 2/3 of the road games aren't that bad. I refuse to go beyond that scenario into more games missed because that's a dark place. Wait and hope, wait and hope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Still Bills minus 6 If Vegas really knows if Josh is out, Minnesota would be the favorite. I know it was 10……but the D is a disaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: Traveling up for the Cleveland game next week. Haven't been to a game in years. The possibility Josh is out has me bummed! Look at it this way, the team needs the fans and the 12th man now more than ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: He missed 4 weeks with a UCL injury in 2018. Great...Now he's injury prone SARCASM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Great...Now he's injury prone SARCASM! SARCASM? Take off, ya hoser! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Still Bills minus 6 If Vegas really knows if Josh is out, Minnesota would be the favorite. I know it was 10……but the D is a disaster https://www.lineups.com/nfl-team-rankings/defense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Logic said: My prediction... [**Note: I have zero inside info, I am not a medical professional, and this is strictly my uninformed, amateur opinion, based on the information I've read and the history of UCL injuries in quarterbacks. Take it with an entire shaker of salt**] ...is as follows: Josh indeed has a UCL injury, which will be treated non-operatively. Given his importance to the Bills this season and long term, the team will opt to be cautious with the injury, even though Josh will want to play through the pain. He will be called "week to week" by McDermott and declared out for Sunday. The timetable for his recovery will be 2-5 weeks, leading to breathless "Josh Allen watch" threads and Twitter vigils every day. Ultimately, he'll wind up missing 3 games. The Bills will go 1-2, and Josh will return December 1st against the Patriots to a 7-4 Bills team in need of a victory to remain tied for the division lead with Miami. Here's hoping I'm totally wrong and Josh is fine and plays this week. If it's pain tolerance, couldn't he just take a pain killer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Buffalo03 said: If it's pain tolerance, couldn't he just take a pain killer? If he doesn’t play, I’ll be looking to take a pain killer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Lol must be voice to text! 😜 The Parable of the Prodigal Son (also known as the parable of the Two Brothers, Lost Son, Loving Father, or of the Forgiving Father) is one of the parables of Jesus Christ in the Bible, appearing in Luke 15:11–32 You are aware that parts of the Bible were drawn from pre-existing parables correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 42 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: We currently hold the number one seed and it’s hard to be optimistic? Were you hoping for the zero seed through 8 games? The negative 3 seed? The particle sun returns. I hear what you are saying. I'm happy about being 6-2 with the number one seed. However, its starting to feel like the team isn't as good as I thought. Maybe an error on my part with believing the hype. It looks as though many teams are right there with the Bils. They can beat us on any given day. The Bills look beatable and are beatable. There are some unexpected disappointments this far. Mainly the poor receiving play which includes Knox who isn't being targeted. The run game and stopping the run has reared its ugly head. Allen is hurt hopefully not long term. Hyde is out for the season. Seeding is great but it doesn't mean you are the best team. See Tenn for a reference point. Right now, we don't look or feel like rhe best team. Hope by seasons end the Bills will be peaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: You are aware that parts of the Bible were drawn from pre-existing parables correct? Oh so that's where the Particle Sun parable comes from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 47 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Theres only one man who can save our season. Don't know about that - bet we could get Baker for a bag of footballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: If it's pain tolerance, couldn't he just take a pain killer? That's the key question. Is it JUST pain tolerance, or is there risk of further structural damage or lack of proper healing if he plays though it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Serious question: Anyone know how risky playing with a grade 2 partially torn UCL is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Is the season over yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I hear what you are saying. I'm happy about being 6-2 with the number one seed. I understand how this kind of thinking gets one thru the day, but I hate it. How many years have we read posters say "we're still ok..." only to end the season early. Give me "urgency before the emergency" anyday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Is it possible Allen comes out of this being able to use his other arm w/ equal effectiveness? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I hear what you are saying. I'm happy about being 6-2 with the number one seed. However, its starting to feel like the team isn't as good as I thought. Maybe an error on my part with believing the hype. It looks as though many teams are right there with the Bils. They can beat us on any given day. The Bills look beatable and are beatable. There are some unexpected disappointments this far. Mainly the poor receiving play which includes Knox who isn't being targeted. The run game and stopping the run has reared its ugly head. Allen is hurt hopefully not long term. Hyde is out for the season. Seeding is great but it doesn't mean you are the best team. See Tenn for a reference point. Right now, we don't look or feel like rhe best team. Hope by seasons end the Bills will be peaking. I agree with this, mostly... I no longer feel anywhere near the level of confidence I had earlier in the season. I'll admit, I did not expect this team to have the now, annual, mid-season swoon of run Defense struggles, JA issues and Offensive clunkiness. I will say, I don't see anyone better than us. Chiefs are still the main threat, and they are having similar issues as us. Eagles, I do not buy.. they have been an outlier of health and have (and will continue to have) the easiest schedule - by far - of any contender. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 a hopefully good sign: Allen is scheduled to be on Kyle Brandt's basement show today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Success said: Is it possible Allen comes out of this being able to use his other arm w/ equal effectiveness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I have the over at 34.5 on Allen passing TD’s. He can miss 1-2 games…and that is it. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 53 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: Unless the injury got worse after the game, how do you explain a 70 yard pass AFTER the injury? It certainly seems "possible" The other poster was claiming Allen could play through a torn UCL which isn't possible according to the medical opinions I've seen. My point was that the damage is likely not too severe or else he couldn't have made that throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Serious question: Anyone know how risky playing with a grade 2 partially torn UCL is? Partially torn you risk Tommy John. If strained. No risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, LabattBlue said: I have the over at 34.5 on Allen passing TD’s. He can miss 1-2 games…and that is it. 😂 So self-serving! Think of the man's spleen and what playing could do to it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: a hopefully good sign: Allen is scheduled to be on Kyle Brandt's basement show today Doesnt tell us anything, and neither will Josh. I'm guessing he opens with a disclaimer of "Still waiting on test results, working through some soreness, taking it day by day, blahblahblah" and then they move on to talking about movies and stuff. Not like Kyle is going to put him on the hot seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Logic said: That's the key question. Is it JUST pain tolerance, or is there risk of further structural damage or lack of proper healing if he plays though it? If there is no chance or very minimal chance it will cause further damage by playing then he should just do the pain killer. The season is too important and the Dolphins and Jets now are right on our backs for the division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 48 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: The Hines pass ? The pass was badly overthrown. Perhaps Josh was over-compensating A healthy Josh hits that and we win the game. Hines has only been on the roster a few days. It's much more likely that Allen just mis-judged his speed downfield. That's something that may take a little time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Oh so that's where the Particle Sun parable comes from! The Prodigal Son is drawn from an ancient parable of the Particle Sun which was actually very insightful and shows that long dead societies knew more than we realized even if their science wasn’t fully developed. I explained it here a while back and you might be able to find it. I’ll summarize: The best way to describe light for the ancients was as a concentrated force residing within the sun. They theorized that not all of the sun’s energy was concentrated on Earth but that much of it went elsewhere. When some of this light missed the Earth it was destined to be gone forever……but……some small percentage…..a few particles….bounced off other nearby objects, primarily planets. These planets, of course, do not generate their own light. That light came from the sun but was only a small portion of the whole. Mars, for instance, could not be given credit although it seemed to shine in the night sky. These particles of light that bounced off Mars and allowed us to see it became known as the particle sun. They had passed Earth by and yet returned. You can see how the Prodigal Sun is an offshoot of this. At some point we came to “know” that light is not made of particles, but of waves, then it became unclear again and really isn’t completely understood even to this day. It is an example of how ancient wisdom holds up over long periods sometimes even if inexact. The Bible did a good job of taking this ancient parable and applying it to the human condition, so call Frank the Prodigal Son is appropriate but the Particle Sun is the origin and also applies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: If there is no chance or very minimal chance it will cause further damage by playing then he should just do the pain killer. The season is too important and the Dolphins and Jets now are right on our backs for the division Easy for us to say. We're not the ones who'd have to play through incredible pain while going against giant athletic freaks trying to murder us every play. In any case, if there's NO chance of further damage, then he likely plays. Even if there's "very minimal chance", I'd rather that he didn't, and I don't think he would. This franchise is not going to risk the long term health and effectiveness of its $250million franchise QB just for a few wins this season. Ain't gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: If there is no chance or very minimal chance it will cause further damage by playing then he should just do the pain killer. The season is too important and the Dolphins and Jets now are right on our backs for the division Agreed. We can’t throw away any more games being overly conservative with injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Buffalo03 said: If there is no chance or very minimal chance it will cause further damage by playing then he should just do the pain killer. The season is too important and the Dolphins and Jets now are right on our backs for the division If there's any chance at all of further injury, I'd sit him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 The MN game is non-conference, and hardly make or break at this point. I'd guess they'd be cautious if it looks at all like something that rest could help with. We need to take care of business against our division opponents. I'd rather have a healthy JA and a 2 or 3 seed than risk anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Logic said: Easy for us to say. We're not the ones who'd have to play through incredible pain while going against giant athletic freaks trying to murder us every play. In any case, if there's NO chance of further damage, then he likely plays. Even if there's "very minimal chance", I'd rather that he didn't, and I don't think he would. This franchise is not going to risk the long term health and effectiveness of its $250million franchise QB just for a few wins this season. Ain't gonna happen. If it's a minor UCL sprain, likely would only worsen it if his arm got hit in the same place while throwing. Unlikely but possible... Depends on how bad the injury is tho. Maybe we will get some clues on Kyle Brandt's Basement segment with Allen from the man himself...will be tuned in as usual around 4:30ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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