Bills trade for Nyheim Hines

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Beck Water]

10 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

You all told me Moss couldn't be traded. I knew Beane was up to something when he didn't even touch the ball the other night. 

 

Beane is a wizard and this is an Upgrade for us. How much to be seen lol 

 

I thought we were all telling the world that Moss and a 5th was the "It" trade for a player

Turns out we were wrong, Moss and a 6th did it.

[Garrett Williams]

26 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

What?! Why didn't they get McCaffrey, Davante Adams, Quinton Nelson, Derwin James, and uh...Jerry Rice?!? This is the poop of the bull and now I are so mad my whole day is kaputs. Thanks jerks!

B-

[blacklabel]

10 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Can he punch it in from the 1?

 

No, only from the 2, 7, 38, or 97th. 

[McBean]

McAfee comments have me excited for real 

[Bigantall]

Anybody got any highlights 

[newcam2012]

25 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m good with this

Me too. It's an upgrade but not really a splash pick up or a needle mover. Moss was a goner and a 6th isn't much. Muddies things up a bit with Cook there. Good insurance policy. Hard not to approve the move but not doing jumping jacks either. 

[LabattBlue]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

This is completely irrelevant to the trade deadline and trades being made. No IOL or S were available. Doesnt mean you just give up improving your roster overall because your biggest needs cant be addressed.

I just addressed this.  No one but Beane knows who was available, or the price being asked.

Edited November 1, 2022 by LabattBlue

[Dablitzkrieg]

9 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Is this the running back? Seems like he’ll fit it great with the locker room…👍

No, not every black person looks the same buddy

[Captain Hindsight]

17 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

I think Moss will have a much better career than Hines. Write that down. Moss wasn't going to be able to do it here and needed a change of scenery but he's going to catch on either with the Colts or elsewhere. He's a good player

At what?

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

2 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said:

He's much better than Singletary as a receiver (the jury's still out on Cook, who hasn't had enough touches to evaluate).    Hines can also play the slot in a pinch.     As a runner, he looks about the same as Motor, with less yards after contact ability (he's a water bug).   

 

Would have liked to add a bigger back for short yardage situations, but I guess that's Josh's role. 

 

 Not this year. About the same targets and yards. Singletary has a receiving td, Hines doesn't. That 1 td is the biggest difference between the 2 as receivers this year. Their results are nearly identical.

 

 

[DisplacedBillsFan]

Josh is going to need to start throwing two balls, one with each hand, on every play to make sure everyone is receiving enough touches and targets. Actually, he may need a third so when he decides to run on his own.

[Shake_My_Head]

1 minute ago, Bigantall said:

Anybody got any highlights 

 

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

He's a top 5 pass catching back in the NFL.

[The Jokeman]

12 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Why trade for him then? I don't know. Just guessing. Depth?

Depth and position versatility. I like he's a proven punt returner and can play WR.

[eball]

Great trade!  Moss is gone -- a player who simply doesn't fit this offense.  In comes another weapon out of the backfield, and a legitimate threat as a PR as well.

 

We all knew this was going to be Motor's last year in Buffalo.  He can exit with a ring, and Hines/Cook will carry the torch just fine.

 

[Aussie Joe]

1 minute ago, blacklabel said:

 

No, only from the 2, 7, 38, or 97th. 

 

So you happy to just keep leaving punching in from the 1 to Allen?

[Motorin']

22 minutes ago, boco357 said:

 

 

I was absolutely going to joke that this was for Zack Moss and a 5th. 

[Richmond_Bills]

This is JD McKissic replacement that Beane lost out on in the off-season.  It's blatantly obvious that Beane/McDermott wanted this type of player in the system and since Cook isn't there yet, they feel this is the player.  I think its a good signing and he will have an impact during the run.  

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, LabattBlue said:

I just addressed this.  No one but Beane knows who was available, or the price being asked.

 

So you think Beane ignored the IOL and S that were available?

 

I mean, a lot of folks had some good ideas on who was available and most turned out true. It isnt hard to figure out when you look at team standings and player contracts.

[Scott7975]

6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Why do these guys love RBs so much? 😅

 

You never have to see Moss take a snap for us again.  Surely you are at least happy about that?

[Process]

His contract is what really makes me question this trade. 

 

At the end of the day we gave up basically nothing so whatever. Just don't get the move at all. 

 

So Cook is the lead back next year, can he actually handle that role? Or are we going to have a 2nd round backup RB, $5M pass catching RB, and need to spend ANOTHER draft pick on a RB to be the lead guy?

[blacklabel]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

 

So you happy to just keep leaving punching in from the 1 to Allen?

 

No, no, of course not, Joseph. I want that job to go to Sam Martin. Duh. 

[Shake_My_Head]

Just now, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 Not this year. About the same targets and yards. Singletary has a receiving td, Hines doesn't. That 1 td is the biggest difference between the 2 as receivers this year. Their results are nearly identical.

 

 

I'm not basing it on stats.  I'm going by video and the eyeball test.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

 

So you happy to just keep leaving punching in from the 1 to Allen?

 

Why not?

 

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 Not this year. About the same targets and yards. Singletary has a receiving td, Hines doesn't. That 1 td is the biggest difference between the 2 as receivers this year. Their results are nearly identical.

 

 

And the Colts OC got fired. 

[H2o]

Zero in dead cap the next two years if we move on. If he works out, I would imagine they add another year to the deal and a little bit of gtd $$$ to lower the cap figure. 

[What a Tuel]

3 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

No. They traded a day 3 pick plus a RB picked with a 3rd round pick(who never worked out).  So they traded a 3rd and a 5th for Hines, and then may let Singletary go in the off-season to FA...another 3rd round pick.

 

As for the bolded, no one knows what calls were made, or what the asking price were.  You only know that none were traded.

 

No. They traded a day 3 pick plus a RB picked with a 3rd round pick for Hines who was picked with a 4th rounder.

 

So if you are boiling down players for picks, a 3rd and a 5th for a 4th. Not ideal but this isnt how we should look at player trades so.....

Edited November 1, 2022 by What a Tuel

[Ta111]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

Me too. It's an upgrade but not really a splash pick up or a needle mover. Moss was a goner and a 6th isn't much. Muddies things up a bit with Cook there. Good insurance policy. Hard not to approve the move but not doing jumping jacks either. 

I don’t know why people don’t do a little research. Hines is a very good receiver but also a dynamic punt/kickoff returner. He fills several roles with the Bills.

[LabattBlue]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

So you think Beane ignored the IOL and S that were available?

 

I mean, a lot of folks had some good ideas on who was available and most turned out true. It isnt hard to figure out when you look at team standings and player contracts.

...or he didn't like the asking price, but it doesn't 100% mean none were available.

[The Jokeman]

13 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I truly don't think so.

 

I could be wrong but I think this is as much about having a guy who can play in the slot and return punts.

Valid point, I was being a tad sarcastic.

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, blacklabel said:

 

No, no, of course not, Joseph. I want that job to go to Sam Martin. Duh. 

 

Sorry for trying to have a straight conversation with you

[appoo]

10 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

Yeah I know.. but it would be nice if someone else on the team could as well.. even if just so the opposition has someone else to worry about

 

You could always stick a TE back there if you really wanted

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

And here I was thinking we were going to get Derrick Henry…..

Epic fail…..

[L Ron Burgundy]

11 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 This is what I'm thinking. He replaces Moss as the #3 RB. Who knows though he may get here and with all the weapons we have and Allen as QB maybe he'll show he's better than what he's done this year.

 

 

You are way too focused on this year's stats.  Indys offense has fallen off a cliff.  This is an absolute steal.

[Mattymafia]

Apparently the bills traded for Dean Marlowe too. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, LabattBlue said:

...or he didn't like the asking price, but it doesn't 100% mean none were available.

 

If he didnt like the price then they werent available to us and our "budget". Everything is technically for sale if you are willing to pay. But that is silly.

[Aussie Joe]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Why not?

 

 

It would be nice if the opposition had someone else to worry about

[Starr Almighty]

The Zack Moss and a  5th kind of came true 🤣

[That's No Moon]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

McK seems OK as a KR

McK has fumbled a kickoff without being touched. Lots of things happen when he touches the ball. Some of them are good. Some of them are not. They are always of high interest. This is not what I want in my return people. I will sacrifice significant upside to know for certain this offense is getting the ball back. In previous years we needed to steal a TD here and there in returns. This is not that year. Catch the ball, run forward rather than sideways, zero turnovers. That is my goal and if I'm honest zero turnovers comes before running forward. Fair catch everything IDGAF.