78thealltimegreat Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Friends if you have a few minutes our friends at Cover 1 on YouTube have a terrific breakdown of Dorsey’s use of Steff Diggs Some things become apparent Dorsey truly knows the skill set he has in a talent like Allen…but his ability to draw up route concepts for arguably the best receiver in football are really something..I can see why Josh wanted him so much the guy is a future head coach just depends what year 9 1 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Friends if you have a few minutes our friends at Cover 1 on YouTube have a terrific breakdown of Dorsey’s use of Steff Diggs Some things become apparent Dorsey truly knows the skill set he has in a talent like Allen…but his ability to draw up route concepts for arguably the best receiver in football are really something..I can see why Josh wanted him so much the guy is a future head coach just depends what year He has a long way to go before he’s a HC his resume is small and he was fired as a QB coach in 18 he has josh Allen and I do think he’s been really good but it’s wayyyy too quick to say he’s gonna be a HC soon Edited October 18, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 1 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I think he's done a great job so far. My only complain is that we keep lining up in shotgun on 3rd and 1 (and not making it) 4 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I was thinking of making the same thread. You watch Denver and appreciate what we have. Speaking of that he could be the Broncos head coach next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He has a long way to go before he’s a HC his resume is small and he was fired as a QB coach in 18 he has josh Allen and I do think he’s been really good but it’s wayyyy too quick to say he’s gonna be a HC soon That meltdown clip wont help him either not the end of the world but plays poorly in that regard 2 6 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Our TD percentage is better outside of the red zone than in the red zone. That’s my only complaint so far. 5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, NoSaint said: That meltdown clip wont help him either not the end of the world but plays poorly in that regard If the Bills win the Super Bowl that clip will mean less than it already does. Zac Taylor basically washed McVay's clothes for 2 years and got a HC job, someone is always willing to take a shot on a play caller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 What a great breakdown! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 He’s been great but the 3 straight pass calls from the 2 yard line was head scratching. Same thing he did in Miami too. Hope he learns from that otherwise yes he’s been really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Excellent video breakdown. I had no idea (drinks were involved) that Diggs played the slot almost half of the KC game. Other takeaways: Dorsey's imagination (like using a 21 personnel, 2 RB 2WR 1TE, against 3 linebackers then splitting out everyone wide) and gathering intel and using that to his advantage. Regarding Diggs, I always knew he was a great route runner but this vid reminds me how I've never seen a receiver literally STOP and then move like Diggs. He does it so often and so well. And he's tough as nails. I'm guessing he's not much more than 180 lb soaking wet but, man is he one tough SOB. And I love him. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 He's been really good only one time was furious. Happy Dorsey been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Outside of that stupid option call early in the game it was a very well called game for the most part. Dorsey has stepped up well in the absence of Daboll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, NoSaint said: That meltdown clip wont help him either not the end of the world but plays poorly in that regard No different than Belichick, Saban temper tantrums 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I think he will be better than Daboll when it’s said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, NoSaint said: That meltdown clip wont help him either not the end of the world but plays poorly in that regard won't hurt him at all 🙄 Edited October 18, 2022 by Reed83HOF 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 53 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: I think he's done a great job so far. My only complain is that we keep lining up in shotgun on 3rd and 1 (and not making it) We are however doing really good on third down overall the short yardage thing is amplified because those are the ones that we don’t convert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: He's been really good only one time was furious. Happy Dorsey been great. I appreciate your POV but me, personally, I don't give a flying f*** about meltdowns if the man is producing. Many great ones have been angry during losses. I'll take that over composure and losing. Dick Jauron was a master at being calm. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I actually have an issue with some of his playcalling. I think he runs on 2nd and long too much forcing us to be in too many 3rd down situations. And the sequence of plays on that game winning drive where he ran Singletary on 2nd and 1 and got stuffed and then pitched it back to Singletary on 3rd and 1 which Singletary missed again made me wanna rip my hair out. It caused us to have a 4th and 1 at our own 35 yard line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Nephilim17 said: I appreciate your POV but me, personally, I don't give a flying f*** about meltdowns if the man is producing. Many great ones have been angry during losses. I'll take that over composure and losing. Dick Jauron was a master at being calm. Not talking about the or his meltdown. A play call I think third down chiefs game. I was hot looked at other things to calm down. But I'm happy he's doing very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Not talking about the or his meltdown. A play call I think third down chiefs game. I was hot looked at other things to calm down. But I'm happy he's doing very good. My bad. 🍺 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Nephilim17 said: I appreciate your POV but me, personally, I don't give a flying f*** about meltdowns if the man is producing. Many great ones have been angry during losses. I'll take that over composure and losing. Dick Jauron was a master at being calm. I remember watching a fly die on the lig of Bud Grant while he was coaching on the sideline one game. I have ZERO issue with Dorsey's post game booth meltdown. And as long as he is successful at his job, I doubt many others will, either. Now if he implodes, that that is front and center of every report/story. But so far, a failure as an OC doesn't seen to likely at this point. I'm also a bit worried he will get poached. But I think/hope we have a few good years before that happens. I have no idea if he will be a good HC, but I'm guessing he will get another opportunity if he keeps up his current success rate. And the little criticisms of his play call here or sequence there won't impact his ascent one iota, IMO. Every OC makes a questionable play call, or two. So far, it looks like Dorsey is learning as he moves forward with this offense. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, StHustle said: I think he will be better than Daboll when it’s said and done. To be fair, Daboll is elite at the interpersonal component of coaching. He values the human element of the game more than some, without being a pushover. Which when combined with game-planning acumen and overall aptitude, sounds like the makeup of a solid head coach. I don't know enough about Dorsey, beyond his demonstrable and oft-cited competitiveness, to have an opinion on his capacity for being the head guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: won't hurt him at all 🙄 again, not the end of the world or a noteworthy disqualifier but it was a bit more than the McD gif, and if someone’s on the fence about him it may tip the scale slightly in the short term. I think most owners like some passion but also don’t like the idea of their HC on full tilt. He will be able to bury that memory if he performs well enough though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: again, not the end of the world or a noteworthy disqualifier but it was a bit more than the McD gif, and if someone’s on the fence about him it may tip the scale slightly in the short term. I think most owners like some passion but also don’t like the idea of their HC on full tilt. He will be able to bury that memory if he performs well enough though he's better than both the coaches tonight, hell almost of u son the board would be better than these 2 dolts.... FWIW, He isn't getting a HC job this year, needs a couple more years IMO Edited October 18, 2022 by Reed83HOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) From the Ringer: Buffalo can go light with three and even four receivers on the field at once. They can put multiple backs in the backfield or multiple tight ends on the line of scrimmage. They can line up under center or in the gun. They can dial up old-school, downhill-run plays, or call more modern option plays designed around the QB. Allen has become a surgeon on underneath stuff, but he’s still throwing rockets to the deep and intermediate parts of the field. And he’s as comfortable throwing to the middle of the field as he is outside the numbers. This offense can do anything at any time, and it does it all at a high level. This isn’t just the best offense in the NFL today. It’s one of the most comprehensive attacks this league has ever seen. 5 Takeaways from The Bills Win Edited October 18, 2022 by Last Guy on the Bench 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I haven't been happy with our RB usage, Singletary should play more and we saw why yesterday. Also, no creativity in the redzone or short yardage, Daboll seemed to often catch the defense off guard for big plays. He's still learning, but I was happy he stuck with Singletary much of the Chiefs game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: Outside of that stupid option call early in the game it was a very well called game for the most part. Dorsey has stepped up well in the absence of Daboll. That was a screen play to the L The shovel pass to the R after a L to R sweep motion was NOT in the play Dorsey drew up as an option Bank on it. 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: won't hurt him at all 🙄 Oh, My. Where did you find that? Edited October 18, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Cruiserplayer said: Our TD percentage is better outside of the red zone than in the red zone. That’s my only complaint so far. The problem is we don't have great personnel to score in the red zone. Our OL isn't good enough to dominate defenses in compressed areas and our RBs aren't fast enough to maximize the small windows of opportunity that exist. I'd like to see us get Knox more involved. Outside of Allen he is our best red zone weapon. Other than that we need to either trade for McCaffrey or hope that James Cook develops because Singletary and Moss never find their way into the endzone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: He has a long way to go before he’s a HC his resume is small and he was fired as a QB coach in 18 he has josh Allen and I do think he’s been really good but it’s wayyyy too quick to say he’s gonna be a HC soon It doesn't take much anymore in the NFL if you are considered a bright offensive mind to get hired as HC. Everyone wants to "keep up with the Jones'" so to speak offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: I appreciate your POV but me, personally, I don't give a flying f*** about meltdowns if the man is producing. Many great ones have been angry during losses. I'll take that over composure and losing. Dick Jauron was a master at being calm. It’s hard to win in the NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Actually worth the watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said: I think he's done a great job so far. My only complain is that we keep lining up in shotgun on 3rd and 1 (and not making it) We actually had a QB sneak sighting last game! I was so proud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 hours ago, akcash said: I was thinking of making the same thread. You watch Denver and appreciate what we have. Speaking of that he could be the Broncos head coach next year. I think Denver will think twice about hiring another hot shot OC who had an All World QB in his previous stint to work with. 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: We actually had a QB sneak sighting last game! I was so proud. They added a wrinkle in the new QB sneak play. Gabe Davis pushing Josh ahead while in motion is actually a great idea considering their ineptitude lately on 3rd/4th and 1 situations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Einstein said: We actually had a QB sneak sighting last game! I was so proud. this was one of the most exciting plays of the game for me. we should be AUTOMATIC on these, but it feels like we have been among the worst in the nfl for the past few years in those spots. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: That was a screen play to the L The shovel pass to the R after a L to R sweep motion was NOT in the play Dorsey drew up as an option Bank on it. Hmm. Interesting. Originally I thought that was an improv by Allen too just from how not prepared McKenzie was. It was like a total shock to him. The more I have watched it the more I have felt maybe it was designed as an option pitch play the type Anthony Lynn used to use a lot for Tyrod and Shady. I will watch again later looking for screen left keys. 4 hours ago, NoSaint said: again, not the end of the world or a noteworthy disqualifier but it was a bit more than the McD gif, and if someone’s on the fence about him it may tip the scale slightly in the short term. I think most owners like some passion but also don’t like the idea of their HC on full tilt. He will be able to bury that memory if he performs well enough though Exactly. There is banging a fist or even throwing an ipad.... and then there is a full scale meltdown where you demolish a booth. The number of people who don't think that was a bad look worry me. Like how do these folks react when things don't go their way in life? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Cruiserplayer said: Our TD percentage is better outside of the red zone than in the red zone. That’s my only complaint so far. This is a big issue for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: He's been really good only one time was furious. Happy Dorsey been great. Is it Miami week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 9 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: He has a long way to go before he’s a HC his resume is small and he was fired as a QB coach in 18 he has josh Allen and I do think he’s been really good but it’s wayyyy too quick to say he’s gonna be a HC soon He will be a head coach within the next 2 years. COULD BE NEXT YEAR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Exactly. There is banging a fist or even throwing an ipad.... and then there is a full scale meltdown where you demolish a booth. The number of people who don't think that was a bad look worry me. Like how do these folks react when things don't go their way in life? Apparently you have not had a chance yet to watch "All or Nothing: Arsenal" yet. 😀 Mikel Arteta and Ken Dorsey (and many people in sports) have the same reaction after losses. Ken and Mikel both have the same passion. We (Arsenal and the Bills) are "top of the table," and I am very happy that Arsenal stuck with Mikel and the Bills chose Dorsey to be the OC. I have not heard one player criticize the way Dorsey reacted. Instead, all of the players have been very positive and complimentary of his passion (particularly Josh). Everyone who has ever been in a locker room has seen reactions like Dorsey's. Everyone. If an owner decides that Dorsey has the ability to be a HC, the video of him after the Dolphin game is not going to hurt him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: To be fair, Daboll is elite at the interpersonal component of coaching. He values the human element of the game more than some, without being a pushover. Which when combined with game-planning acumen and overall aptitude, sounds like the makeup of a solid head coach. I don't know enough about Dorsey, beyond his demonstrable and oft-cited competitiveness, to have an opinion on his capacity for being the head guy. I was talking specifically as an offensive coordinator…Daboll could very well end up being a much better head coach but not as good as an offensive coordinator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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