Draconator Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Inigo Montoya said: Never saw this angle before. Look how close Evil Kneivel was to landing this jump! Time for an upgrade! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Einstein said: Never saw this angle before. Watch how close Singletary to blowing the game here. Time for a RB upgrade! Was brought up in a couple other threads as well. Salient points discussed were that Campbell is a bit delusional to paint that as "almost won us the game": 1) score was tied with 1:50 left and a fumble/scrum would have chewed off more clock 2) fumble recovery statistically 50/50, so Motor or another Bill might have recovered 3) let's say for the sake of argument, Ravens do recover the ball, they gotta go what, 50-60 yds in 1:30 or something and kick a FG, far from sure thing. Bottom line, almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades - "almost missed the pick" "almost had an interception" etc etc - lots of almosts that would have influenced the game Edited October 5, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, BBills_88 said: Game of Inches 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 He’s carrying the ball with two hands like he’s supposed to which prevented the fumble like it’s supposed to. Not sure what the issue is here 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, nedboy7 said: Lot's of unnecessary hate. Choose love. Be Best?😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Beck Water said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: Honestly in my opinion it is a story. The guy is small 5’7 or so right? He has short arms. He is more vulnerable to fumbling than a guy 5’10 or taller. He is also considerably shorter than your average NFL RB don’t you think? He fumbled and lost it once last week and almost did again. I love the guy but I’m just stating facts here some other facts .. 1) He has 1 fumble this year the same as virtually every other RB in the league. 2) Over his career he has the Bills have actually lost the ball only three times due to a fumble by Singletary. I think this is a non-issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 A fumble there would've been very very very Billsy. In fact I'm shocked he didn't lose it. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 How is it that we have this many tinfoil hats coming out when we're 3-1 and Super Bowl favorites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) Hey, Calais: Edited October 5, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb386 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Jauronimo said: It was a great punch and he held on to win the game. This was my thought, great punch by the defender and good job by Singletary for holding on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 You were close to posting something meaningful, but nope. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Is OP one of those Dolphins fans accounts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, blitzboy54 said: I'm not picking on you but this take is wrong. It does matter. McD will not play our 2nd round pick because of fumbles but Singletary has the 2nd highest fumble rate in the league. He has lost very few of them but that is largely luck. I need to see Cook on the field or someone else. Singletary is a liability. My problem with McD here is his process is BS. He is more concerned with the outcome than the process. This is some funny ***** right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Is this the play where the Ravens were supposed to let him score but one guy didn't get the memo? The puncher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: He’s carrying the ball with two hands like he’s supposed to which prevented the fumble like it’s supposed to. Not sure what the issue is here Why does he carry it so funny though? is it because he has short arms? high and tight and the other should be underneath, not across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 On the post-game radio in Baltimore, the Ravens D were saying their instructions were to strip the ball or let him score. Everyone else decided to let him score, Oweh went for the strip. Personally I think Singletary was on his way down anyway specifically to NOT score that early so that it would play out exactly as it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I didn’t think there was anything to this, but you crazy bastards are right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, buffalostu2 said: Is this the play where the Ravens were supposed to let him score but one guy didn't get the memo? The puncher? Yep. 'course if he'd succeeded in achieving a COP without us scoring at all, that would have been a better result yet than us scoring with 1:45 left but there were a lot of steps between a fumble and the Ravens winning. 7 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: On the post-game radio in Baltimore, the Ravens D were saying their instructions were to strip the ball or let him score. Everyone else decided to let him score, Oweh went for the strip. Personally I think Singletary was on his way down anyway specifically to NOT score that early so that it would play out exactly as it did. He was. He ideally wanted the first down before going down, but above all to not score. 22 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said: Why does he carry it so funny though? is it because he has short arms? high and tight and the other should be underneath, not across. There was a video on this a couple years ago with some of the Bills players demonstrating. They're basically coached to put the second arm across the first in high-contact situations. The ball should be angled differently though, back towards his elbow and not straight down (per the demo videos) Edited October 5, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Einstein said: It does matter because you won’t always be so lucky. People often ignore issues because of a win, until they resurface in a loss. Like our inefficiency in short yardage situations. I created a thread about it after the first 2 wins and people said “we won!” Well, yeah. But then we didn’t. And not being able to convert short yardage was part of the problem. So not only do you start this travesty of a thread but you come back in and double down on it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I'm not sure I would say that was close to a fumble. The ball was completely out out of his hands. How much closer can a player be to fumbling without actually fumbling? 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: So not only do you start this travesty of a thread but you come back in and double down on it Yes I defend thoughts I am right about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Einstein said: The ball was completely out out of his hands. How much closer can a player be to fumbling without actually fumbling? Yes I defend thoughts I am right about. You're far from right. If you were right, Singletary would have ACTUALLY fumbled and the Ravens would have ACTUALLY recovered. Would you please just go away? Your drivel and gloom and doom aren't welcomed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Close only counts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Draconator said: You're far from right. If you were right, Singletary would have ACTUALLY fumbled and the Ravens would have ACTUALLY recovered. “You would be right about him ALMOST fumbling, if he ACTUALLY fumbled” Quite the argument you have there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, Einstein said: “You would be right about him ALMOST fumbling, if he ACTUALLY fumbled” Quite the argument you have there. it's pretty similar to your argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Allen almost threw several interceptions against the Ravens. It’s time to move on from him. His arm arrogance almost lost us the game! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, Einstein said: “You would be right about him ALMOST fumbling, if he ACTUALLY fumbled” Quite the argument you have there. Did he put the ball on the ground "Einstein"? I use that name loosely. Doesn't really apply to you. 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: “You would be right about him ALMOST fumbling, if he ACTUALLY fumbled” Quite the argument you have there. and you didn't even get my quote right. You are such a douchenozzle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Analogous point to ponder…we almost won SBXXV! Where’s our trophy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) I find this thread to be hilarious because the very people ranting about an "almost" fumble would be the first people to shut down a conversation about an almost pick six in a loss as "should have, could have, would have" Edited October 5, 2022 by What a Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Wasn’t even that close Singletary had the ball move a bit and then gathered it close to himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Einstein said: The ball was completely out out of his hands. How much closer can a player be to fumbling without actually fumbling? Yes I defend thoughts I am right about. So, what is your recommended actions? Do the Bills cut Devin? Demote him to RB3? What is the bottom line here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: So, what is your recommended actions? Do the Bills cut Devin? Demote him to RB3? What is the bottom line here? His answer to life the very existence of human kind is Breece Hall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: So, what is your recommended actions? Do the Bills cut Devin? Demote him to RB3? What is the bottom line here? Definitely not cut him. My recommendation would be to look for an upgrade at RB. Whether that be a trade, draft pick or free agent. Our line is not good at run blocking - no argument there. But the inability of Singletary to see the field, combined with his ball security issues, necessitates an upgrade. 17 minutes ago, Draconator said: Did he put the ball on the ground "Einstein” You’re confusing “almost lost the ball to the opponent” with “almost fumbled”. Fumbling is simply losing the ball. That doesn’t mean it touched the ground or was recovered by the opponent. . Edited October 5, 2022 by Einstein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 At least Taiwan Jones hasn't fumbled this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Draconator said: Would you please just go away? Your drivel and gloom and doom aren't welcomed here. I’ll be totally honest, I didn’t realize that he came that close to fumbling. Have you ever noticed that sometimes it’s less about what you do and more about how you do it? Especially if there is an established pattern. Some people just don’t read the room very well. 🤷♂️ 17 minutes ago, Doc said: Close only counts... Well??? Don’t leave us hanging! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Augie said: Well??? Don’t leave us hanging! ... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Einstein said: Definitely nor cut him. My recommendation would be to look for an upgrade at RB. Whether that be a trade, draft pick or free agent. Our line is not good at run blocking - no argument there. But the inability of Singletary to see the field, combined with his ball security issues, necessitates an upgrade. Devin is an UFA in March so you might get your wish. Until next year nothing else will happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Einstein said: You’re confusing “almost lost the ball to the opponent” with “almost fumbled”. Fumbling is simply losing the ball. That doesn’t mean it touched the ground or was recovered by the opponent. Once again, your interpretation is wrong. The definition of Fumbling according to the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I find this thread to be hilarious because the very people ranting about an "almost" fumble would be the first people to shut down a conversation about an almost pick six in a loss as "should have, could have, would have" Lot's of "realists" in chat rooms will proudly say they don't believe in moral victories and then turn around and start whole threads about moral defeats.... that this or that win wasn't good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Shouldn't we be saying he did a great job securing the ball, instead of saying he almost lost the game? Now NOT fumbling, when someone tries to punch out the ball, is a reason to bench someone?! What's next, complaining about someone on Defense almost not sacking the opposing QB? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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