What I hate most about the loss.

[billsbackto81]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

Miami has fans ?

WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN 

Yesterday, a little after 4pm.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Both teams were gassed.  But no matter the weather-----it allowed them to run upon 500 yards!  They blew many chances--not because they were hot.

I forgot my sarcasm font 😝 

[Bronxbomber21]

6 hours ago, Rocket94 said:

I agree, and despite it all, we should have beat them yesterday. The Dolphins know that they escaped with a win.

With all the injuries yesterday Buffalo should've still won 38-14 if they didn't beat themselves. That's crazy to even think about we had 6 starters out on Defense and still held the phins to 186 passing yards and 41 rushing yards hell of a job by the Defense and the backups

[Nelius]

I hate the injuries of course but also the fact that nobody else has really stepped up on offense after Diggs 3 games in.

 

McKenzie maybe, but I just don't trust him as a real second or even third option, I just don't think he has the best football brain and ball protection skills. Knox hasn't done much but I get that he had to help protect Josh last game. Gabe has really been inconsistent despite the residual high from the playoff game and then Week 1. And that's pretty much it. This offense is great on paper because of Josh, but we don't seem to have the big multi-weapon offense that a few of the other top tier teams do, including Miami unfortunately. We need a playmaker to step up, or else need to find an actual playmaker. If Diggs went down (god forbid) this offense might get real boring real quick.

[Buffalo Junction]

12 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

Can you imagine the multiverse where the Dolphins go undefeated again? Imagine the Fins going 17-0.🤮

Honestly, it’d be kind of amusing  having them be the last undefeated team and knocking them off…. It’d be the most bittersweet champagne they’ve ever popped. They wouldn’t be able to celebrate without pooping on their own franchise. 😏 

 

Be even better if we go on to a SB victory and send them more champagne or a box of cigars. 

Edited September 27, 2022 by Buffalo Junction

[Xwnyer]

14 hours ago, NewEra said:

Is that Miami fans get to enjoy the win.  That’s really the only thing that upsets me.  We were the better team yesterday but the football gods decided it wasn’t our day to get a win.

 

 

We completely dominated the game

497 yards 31 first downs.  90 plays

212 yards 15 first downs.  39 plays

 

-Missed fg.

-Sack/fumble led to easy 7

-We started the game extremely short handed suffered several more injuries.

-3rd and 22 bomb to waddle was 25% of their offense for the day.

-Milano dropped pick 6.

-due to the stadium and the weather, we played at a serious disadvantage the entire game.  
- the fins corners didn’t commit one holding/pi on 63 pass attempts. Sure 

- the fins got away with several cheap shots on Allen while allen gets caught for 15 on the most crucial drive of the game.

 

Give the Miami D credit for bending but not breaking.  They played great red zone d.  Howard and holland are studs.  McDaniel will be there for 20+ years.  But make no mistake who the better team was yesterday and is overall.  All great teams lose games they’re supposed to win (minus one team, one season).  
 

I ain’t worried about anything but injuries….. and posters making threads highlighting our resilience to injury. 
 

What do you hate most about the loss?

The total lack of penalties against the fins had me screaming most of the game.  Face guarding, holding and PI a calls all day not called yet we got called on a slight grab of jersey early in game.

[Metal Man]

15 hours ago, TN Bills Fan said:

I hate that they can't seem to win close games 0-6 in the last 6 games decided by 7 point or less.  Sorry Josh, elite QBs win close games.

So the 6-1 in 2020 doesn't count? 

Let me guess... no crowds somehow makes that irrelevant?

 

Don't mean to single you out as it seems like a lot of the board and media types are going on and on about this 0-7 in close games thing for the last 24 hours or so and I am having a hard time understanding why Josh and/or McD's years prior to 21 for some reason don't count.

 

[Greg S]

16 hours ago, NewEra said:

Is that Miami fans get to enjoy the win.  That’s really the only thing that upsets me.  We were the better team yesterday but the football gods decided it wasn’t our day to get a win.

 

 

We completely dominated the game

497 yards 31 first downs.  90 plays

212 yards 15 first downs.  39 plays

 

-Missed fg.

-Sack/fumble led to easy 7

-We started the game extremely short handed suffered several more injuries.

-3rd and 22 bomb to waddle was 25% of their offense for the day.

-Milano dropped pick 6.

-due to the stadium and the weather, we played at a serious disadvantage the entire game.  
- the fins corners didn’t commit one holding/pi on 63 pass attempts. Sure 

- the fins got away with several cheap shots on Allen while allen gets caught for 15 on the most crucial drive of the game.

 

Give the Miami D credit for bending but not breaking.  They played great red zone d.  Howard and holland are studs.  McDaniel will be there for 20+ years.  But make no mistake who the better team was yesterday and is overall.  All great teams lose games they’re supposed to win (minus one team, one season).  
 

I ain’t worried about anything but injuries….. and posters making threads highlighting our resilience to injury. 
 

What do you hate most about the loss?

 

They won't get a full week to enjoy it. I think there is a good chance the Bengals beat them this Thursday night at home. If that happens then the Bills will have a chance to tie them with a win on Sunday, I am not worried about division records, conference records, tiebreakers, It's way to early in the season to worry about that stuff.

[Son of a K-Gun]

10 hours ago, CSBill said:

 

There are still undefeated teams, they will have a wait another week or two.

 

Oh I know...but there was only one team that worried them.  Dolphins won't make the 72's lose sleep, and while the Eagles face a pretty cupcake schedule, they aren't historically good despite what the current national media narrative is.

[boyst]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Honestly, it’d be kind of amusing  having them be the last undefeated team and knocking them off…. It’d be the most bittersweet champagne they’ve ever popped. They wouldn’t be able to celebrate without pooping on their own franchise. 😏 

 

Be even better if we go on to a SB victory and send them more champagne or a box of cigars. 

That is true and hilarious 

[Beast]

I hate that they emptied the tank in a loss. Seriously had to be one if the guttiest efforts I've witnessed.

 

That makes me think they may not be physically ready this week in Baltimore. That battery was drained and needs to be recharged.

[Royale with Cheese]

I can't wait for Cincy to beat the Dolphins.

 

I have a feeling Burrow just absolutely torches them.  Bring the Dolphins back to earth.

[Jay_Fixit]

18 hours ago, NewEra said:

Is that Miami fans get to enjoy the win.  That’s really the only thing that upsets me.  We were the better team yesterday but the football gods decided it wasn’t our day to get a win.

 

 

We completely dominated the game

497 yards 31 first downs.  90 plays

212 yards 15 first downs.  39 plays

 

-Missed fg.

-Sack/fumble led to easy 7

-We started the game extremely short handed suffered several more injuries.

-3rd and 22 bomb to waddle was 25% of their offense for the day.

-Milano dropped pick 6.

-due to the stadium and the weather, we played at a serious disadvantage the entire game.  
- the fins corners didn’t commit one holding/pi on 63 pass attempts. Sure 

- the fins got away with several cheap shots on Allen while allen gets caught for 15 on the most crucial drive of the game.

 

Give the Miami D credit for bending but not breaking.  They played great red zone d.  Howard and holland are studs.  McDaniel will be there for 20+ years.  But make no mistake who the better team was yesterday and is overall.  All great teams lose games they’re supposed to win (minus one team, one season).  
 

I ain’t worried about anything but injuries….. and posters making threads highlighting our resilience to injury. 
 

What do you hate most about the loss?

I hated that the Bills finished with less points than the Mammals.

[WhoTom]

Divisional game against a lesser opponent.

 

 

[TampaBillsJunkie]

I'm with you OP. We cash in on half the missed opportunities and its 31-21 or 34-21. We cash them all in and it's another 44-14 game, because they don't score off the sack/fumble. We should have destroyed them, but the heat really took us off our game.

 

[Dr. K]

What I hate most about the loss is listening to all the fools on this board who want to fire the coaching staff. 

[Airseven]

Well obviously that’s a silly, petulant reason to hate the loss. I hate it because it shows Allen is still capable of rookie-year, fumbling, bumbling, Panic-Allen and that these bizarre, Billsy mistakes under pressure never truly go away. 

[C.Biscuit97]

No moral victories and they definitely blew a game they should have won. But I don’t really feel that bad. Half of the team was injured or died in the heat and they still should have won. They will beat the fins by 10+ in Buffalo. Cute little story for Miami though.

[NewEra]

7 hours ago, Nelius said:

I hate the injuries of course but also the fact that nobody else has really stepped up on offense after Diggs 3 games in.

 

McKenzie maybe, but I just don't trust him as a real second or even third option, I just don't think he has the best football brain and ball protection skills. Knox hasn't done much but I get that he had to help protect Josh last game. Gabe has really been inconsistent despite the residual high from the playoff game and then Week 1. And that's pretty much it. This offense is great on paper because of Josh, but we don't seem to have the big multi-weapon offense that a few of the other top tier teams do, including Miami unfortunately. We need a playmaker to step up, or else need to find an actual playmaker. If Diggs went down (god forbid) this offense might get real boring real quick.

Gabe is hurt

[Straight Hucklebuck]

The fans dismissing the loss aren't being intellectually honest. 

 

The offensive line looked like mid-2021 again. Allen has to maneuver out of sacks/pressure constantly. If that was Joe Burrow back there, he'd have taken 9 sacks on Sunday. RG a problem again, RT a problem again. 

 

Diggs, and I know you can't say this, disappeared in the 2nd half. Josh was desperately trying to find anyone that could make a play, and he had 2 catches, for 22 yards. 

 

Running back is again an issue, Singletary is a JAG, and Moss is a fringe-NFLer. So it goes right to the first point on the Offensive Line, but Josh again the leading rusher. 

 

Can't get 1-yard when we needed it. Saw this last year. 

 

Kahlil Shakir inactive again, team needed any kind of spark at WR, Crowder with low snaps as well. All this would be fine if Gabe Davis could separate, but he was blanketed all day. 

 

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Gabe is hurt

This is what some fans saw last year, and why they were clamoring for a 1st-Round WR. 

 

The Bills didn't do that, fine, but I would say its past time to try something different at RB, and the Bills have a 2nd-Rounder sitting on the bench for the most part while they try Zack Moss. 

[Greg S]

3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

The fans dismissing the loss aren't being intellectually honest. 

 

The offensive line looked like mid-2021 again. Allen has to maneuver out of sacks/pressure constantly. If that was Joe Burrow back there, he'd have taken 9 sacks on Sunday. RG a problem again, RT a problem again. 

 

Diggs, and I know you can't say this, disappeared in the 2nd half. Josh was desperately trying to find anyone that could make a play, and he had 2 catches, for 22 yards. 

 

Running back is again an issue, Singletary is a JAG, and Moss is a fringe-NFLer. So it goes right to the first point on the Offensive Line, but Josh again the leading rusher. 

 

Can't get 1-yard when we needed it. Saw this last year. 

 

Kahlil Shakir inactive again, team needed any kind of spark at WR, Crowder with low snaps as well. All this would be fine if Gabe Davis could separate, but he was blanketed all day. 

 

This is what some fans saw last year, and why they were clamoring for a 1st-Round WR. 

 

The Bills didn't do that, fine, but I would say its past time to try something different at RB, and the Bills have a 2nd-Rounder sitting on the bench for the most part while they try Zack Moss. 

 

If there is one area to be critical of Beane its the OL. It's been subpar for a while now. If it wasn't for Allen's ability to avoid the rush they might be considered the worst in the league. At the very least bottom 5. This is more of an offseason discussion but he really should look to rebuild it during the draft. Then there is the fact that both Poyer and Hyde are over 30 so he might have to start looking to get younger in the secondary as well.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Just now, Greg S said:

 

If there is one area to be critical of Beane its the OL. It's been subpar for a while now. If it wasn't for Allen's ability to avoid the rush they might be considered the worst in the league. At the very least bottom 5. This is more of an offseason discussion but he really should look to rebuild it during the draft. Then there is the fact that both Poyer and Hyde are over 30 so he might have to start looking to get younger in the secondary as well.

Yes, its okay to say this. 

 

We have sensitive fans who always have to preface statements praising McDermott and Beane. 

 

But, the line reared it's ugly head again on Sunday, and you're right, Allen makes it look easier than it is. His ability to feel pressure, escape, move, throw on the run, finding the checkdowns. 

 

And on defense, the Bills get credit for Hyde and Poyer (Doug Whaley was GM in 2017 when they were signed), and for building a league leading unit. They gotten a lot of mileage out of Hyde, Poyer, Milano, Edmunds, Tre White, Tauron Johnson. But Elam made sense, we haven't had a good #2 corner in a few years. 

[HopelessNJBuffaloFan]

What oi hate about the Loss is that the Bills went out of their way to lose it, it was not that Miami beat them. Good teams and even SB teams are allowed to have bad days, but this one was terrible! Injuries, bad timeclock management, Poor play calls, missed FG, etc. it was like the perfect storm of dung for the Bills. If only 1 out of the 7-10 things went ok, the Bills would have won. 

[Bronxbomber21]

11 hours ago, Xwnyer said:

The total lack of penalties against the fins had me screaming most of the game.  Face guarding, holding and PI a calls all day not called yet we got called on a slight grab of jersey early in game.

I also saw Allen get face masked that wasn't called ether

[Low Positive]

The worst thing about all NFL losses is that you have to sit with it for a whole week.

[Scott7975]

9 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

The fans dismissing the loss aren't being intellectually honest. 

 

The offensive line looked like mid-2021 again. Allen has to maneuver out of sacks/pressure constantly. If that was Joe Burrow back there, he'd have taken 9 sacks on Sunday. RG a problem again, RT a problem again. 

 

Diggs, and I know you can't say this, disappeared in the 2nd half. Josh was desperately trying to find anyone that could make a play, and he had 2 catches, for 22 yards. 

 

Running back is again an issue, Singletary is a JAG, and Moss is a fringe-NFLer. So it goes right to the first point on the Offensive Line, but Josh again the leading rusher. 

 

Can't get 1-yard when we needed it. Saw this last year. 

 

Kahlil Shakir inactive again, team needed any kind of spark at WR, Crowder with low snaps as well. All this would be fine if Gabe Davis could separate, but he was blanketed all day. 

 

This is what some fans saw last year, and why they were clamoring for a 1st-Round WR. 

 

The Bills didn't do that, fine, but I would say its past time to try something different at RB, and the Bills have a 2nd-Rounder sitting on the bench for the most part while they try Zack Moss. 

 

The offensive line was full of 2nd and 3rd stringers besides Dawkins.  Although I do agree they need upgrade there, they were worse than usual because they were almost all backups and backup backups.  One guy was playing the rest of the game with a torn ACL because they literraly had no one else left.

 

Diggs "disappeared" in the second half because he had an IV in both arms.

 

 

Edited September 28, 2022 by Scott7975

[Success]

9 hours ago, Greg S said:

 

If there is one area to be critical of Beane its the OL. It's been subpar for a while now. If it wasn't for Allen's ability to avoid the rush they might be considered the worst in the league. At the very least bottom 5. This is more of an offseason discussion but he really should look to rebuild it during the draft. Then there is the fact that both Poyer and Hyde are over 30 so he might have to start looking to get younger in the secondary as well.

 

I thought the line played great the 1st couple of weeks.

 

Last week, when they had some 3rd stringers in there - not as much.

 

[Nextmanup]

On 9/26/2022 at 3:24 PM, Son of a K-Gun said:

I hate that the 72 Dolphins get to pop the champagne in week 3...was hoping to give them a scare this year.

They don't get to pop the champagne just yet.

 

The Eagles are still undefeated.

 

Fewer and fewer of those guys are left to actually pop the corks anyway.

 

 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 9/26/2022 at 3:32 PM, HappyDays said:

It's crazy how much post game reactions on both sides are influenced by the final result. If Milano just returns the easiest pick six of his life the narrative today is Allen can do more with less and Tua will never be able to keep up with him. Instead the close score is prolonged, heat exhaustion and a ton of TOP slowly leads to more sloppiness on offense, and the Dolphins use it to their advantage to get back into the game. The whole game turned on that one play.

Exactly. If Milano returns that pick 6 (or any of those missed opportunities) people would hail McDermott for keeping it together when all odds were against him. 

[Son of a K-Gun]

7 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

They don't get to pop the champagne just yet.

 

The Eagles are still undefeated.

 

Fewer and fewer of those guys are left to actually pop the corks anyway.

 

 

Yup, and so are the Dolphins…but if any team was a threat at going undefeated this year it was the Bills.  The 72’s aren’t losing sleep over Philly (despite their powderpuff schedule) or Tua’s Dolphins.

[BobbyC81]

On 9/26/2022 at 12:49 PM, Jauronimo said:

McDaniel will be back working at Best Buy helping my grandpa delete spyware from his laptop in 3 years.

It was funny to see him in the locker room after the game.  He’s so small in comparison.  He reminds me of those guys on crime shows that are on the team because they know all these stats and techno stuff.  He comes off looking strange in those press room interviews.  Definitely not comfortable.

[John from Riverside]

18 hours ago, Greg S said:

 

If there is one area to be critical of Beane its the OL. It's been subpar for a while now. If it wasn't for Allen's ability to avoid the rush they might be considered the worst in the league. At the very least bottom 5. This is more of an offseason discussion but he really should look to rebuild it during the draft. Then there is the fact that both Poyer and Hyde are over 30 so he might have to start looking to get younger in the secondary as well.

At the end of last season the offense of line was playing just fine all we did was bring back last years troop minus mongo and Williams

 

In the first two games they perform just fine we are never going to have high stat running backs because we don’t give them the ball enough

[Nihilarian]

I really, really hate 63 passing attempts while wearing out the entire Buffalo skill players on an oppressively hot, humid day.

 

I had thought this sorta crap was gone to NYC with Daboll...is this new OC attempting to put a saddle on Josh Allen to ride him into becoming a HC somewhere next year?

 

Will the Buffalo receivers, QB even be recovered well enough to compete against the Ravens in Baltimore on Sunday?  Some players were throwing up, some had duel IV's they were so dehydrated. 

 

Does being up in a air conditioned box watching the game insulate the OC from comprehending what was happening on the field that day? 

 

Where the hell was the run game by the running backs again this week? Why is the Buffalo QB the leading rusher again? Bills GM Brandon Beane brought in a great run blocking OG from the Titans in Rodger Saffold. The Bills draft a stud elusive RB in James Cook in the second round in last Aprils draft and hardly utilize him? 

 

On a day where the Buffalo run game could have spared Buffalo the loss by wearing out the Miami defense. Yes, the Dolphins were keying on Singletary and holding him to a 1.4 YPC AVG. Zack Moss did break a big run and if that had been Cook it would have been a TD.  One carry by Cook, one carry by McKenzie, 4 carries by Moss. 15 carries all game by Buffalo RBs...yet 63 pass attempts!!

 

Buffalo time of possession 40:20 to Miami 19:40. Miami sat in the shade while the Bills roasted in the sun...with no air coolers too. A lot to dislike about this game.

 

 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

I really, really hate 63 passing attempts while wearing out the entire Buffalo skill players on an oppressively hot, humid day.

 

I had thought this sorta crap was gone to NYC with Daboll...is this new OC attempting to put a saddle on Josh Allen to ride him into becoming a HC somewhere next year?

 

Will the Buffalo receivers, QB even be recovered well enough to compete against the Ravens in Baltimore on Sunday?  Some players were throwing up, some had duel IV's they were so dehydrated. 

 

Does being up in a air conditioned box watching the game insulate the OC from comprehending what was happening on the field that day? 

 

Where the hell was the run game by the running backs again this week? Why is the Buffalo QB the leading rusher again? Bills GM Brandon Beane brought in a great run blocking OG from the Titans in Rodger Saffold. The Bills draft a stud elusive RB in James Cook in the second round in last Aprils draft and hardly utilize him? 

 

On a day where the Buffalo run game could have spared Buffalo the loss by wearing out the Miami defense. Yes, the Dolphins were keying on Singletary and holding him to a 1.4 YPC AVG. Zack Moss did break a big run and if that had been Cook it would have been a TD.  One carry by Cook, one carry by McKenzie, 4 carries by Moss. 15 carries all game by Buffalo RBs...yet 63 pass attempts!!

 

Buffalo time of possession 40:20 to Miami 19:40. Miami sat in the shade while the Bills roasted in the sun...with no air coolers too. A lot to dislike about this game.

 

 

But also a lot to like considering we dominated the game.  More than double their yards and 1st downs.  Held Hill to 2-30.  Really just gave up one big play while having all backups and PS DBs.  Rousseau looking dominant.  Cook flashed some.  
 

The conclusion sucked big time…. But the book wasn’t a bad read considering the unmitigated circumstances. 

[Kaenon]

I'm not all concerned with the loss.

My wife actually commended me on handling it so well.

 

Miami barely beat us (and we really beat ourselves) with 50% of starters and even had backup's backups needing to play significant time.

 

We are still the top dog.

Just need to get healthy.

[Shaw66]

On 9/26/2022 at 3:11 PM, NewEra said:

 

What do you hate most about the loss?

The loss.  I find I'm developing a players mentality.  Nothing matters except winning.  

 

Play the game. Then move on. I hope they're recovering fro. The heat and have some good practices. 

[TheBrownBear]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

I really, really hate 63 passing attempts while wearing out the entire Buffalo skill players on an oppressively hot, humid day.

 

I had thought this sorta crap was gone to NYC with Daboll...is this new OC attempting to put a saddle on Josh Allen to ride him into becoming a HC somewhere next year?

 

Will the Buffalo receivers, QB even be recovered well enough to compete against the Ravens in Baltimore on Sunday?  Some players were throwing up, some had duel IV's they were so dehydrated. 

 

Does being up in a air conditioned box watching the game insulate the OC from comprehending what was happening on the field that day? 

 

Where the hell was the run game by the running backs again this week? Why is the Buffalo QB the leading rusher again? Bills GM Brandon Beane brought in a great run blocking OG from the Titans in Rodger Saffold. The Bills draft a stud elusive RB in James Cook in the second round in last Aprils draft and hardly utilize him? 

 

On a day where the Buffalo run game could have spared Buffalo the loss by wearing out the Miami defense. Yes, the Dolphins were keying on Singletary and holding him to a 1.4 YPC AVG. Zack Moss did break a big run and if that had been Cook it would have been a TD.  One carry by Cook, one carry by McKenzie, 4 carries by Moss. 15 carries all game by Buffalo RBs...yet 63 pass attempts!!

 

Buffalo time of possession 40:20 to Miami 19:40. Miami sat in the shade while the Bills roasted in the sun...with no air coolers too. A lot to dislike about this game.

 

 

Not sure it's that simple.  The short passing game was working and we did roll up 497 yards.  We just couldn't make the key plays when we needed to starting with the final drive of the 1st half.  And from listening to Eric Wood during and after the game, the running game was severely hamstrung by the injury situation, especially at center.  We really had to condense the playbook and we were honestly better off just having Josh catch it in shotgun and play sandlot football at that point.

[RiotAct]

36 minutes ago, Kaenon said:

I'm not all concerned with the loss.

My wife actually commended me on handling it so well.

 

Miami barely beat us (and we really beat ourselves) with 50% of starters and even had backup's backups needing to play significant time.

 

We are still the top dog.

Just need to get healthy.

unfortunately, we’ve already lost two starters for the year… 😩

[Low Positive]

23 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

unfortunately, we’ve already lost two starters for the year… 😩

Am I missing something? What other starter have we lost for the year besides Hyde?

[Scott7975]

24 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

unfortunately, we’ve already lost two starters for the year… 😩

 

Who is the second starter?