PrimeTime101 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 57 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Seems like people don't want to see key plays he makes and just ignore them like they didn't happen. Did you not see the big 3rd down conversion he had when he ducked under a Dolphin tackle attempt 3 yards short of th first down and ended up getting it? He has had a few catches like this on 3rd down that converted critical 3rd downs. to the bolded, those throws were so perfect that any HB catches those... Hell our FB/TE was catching balls. The big run. Cooper would have taken that the distance. He got a first down? well wooptie freaking doo. Hes asked to break tackles out there. ITs who he is supposed to be. so what he had 2 good plays out of 4 carries.. What about all his other carries this year? Take out one big run and a first down run? then what? And I am happy for moss that he had a better performance, but I think it's time to see what our rookie can do. In short, I am not disagreeing with you... I am looking at the bigger picture concerning our Top 2 RB and now i want to see Cooke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, extrahammer said: Clearly you're a guy who doesn't look at nuances or details. Oh wow, 6 yards per carry even though more than half of them came on one carry, lol... let's revisit this thread at the end of the season and see if he keeps that up. Looking at his pattern of play, I definitely don't believe he will. At this point, he's taking carries away from our two best playmakers at the RB position. You asked a question. I answered it, as did several others here. And then you revealed your unwillingness to listen to answers. This is a hate thread whose title should be something more like, "Wah, wah, I don't like Zach Moss." Fine, whatever. You want to explain away the facts that don't fit your position. Again, whatever. You won't understand the world as well as people who try to look at all the available information, but that's your privilege. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: to the bolded, those throws were so perfect that any HB catches those... Hell our FB/TE was catching balls. The big run. Cooper would have taken that And I am happy for moss that he had a better performance, but I think it's time to see what our rookie can do. In short, I am not disagreeing with you... I am looking at the bigger picture concerning our Top 2 RB and now i want to see Cooke Some catches were easy. Some weren't. He's made some very nice catches while here, as this shows: The Bills also love that he's a terrific pass blocker. I'd like to see Cooke too. All of them, really, but the OL has not been providing opportunities so far this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I'm fine with Singletary and Cook. I don't need to see the amount of touches Moss gets, but I'm not a coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 About a million things went wrong for the Bills yesterday but your focus is on Zack Moss? He had a damn nice run and made a big third down play on his 5 touches, not a bad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Zach Moss, like almost any RB, is dependent on the OL and play calling to give them room to run. The Bills' had, at best, a makeshift OL in the 2nd half yesterday and running room was hard to come by. I'm not saying that Moss is great, but he isn't as bad as people make him out to be. He has some power and he can make a shifty cut now and then. I think the blame is misplaced on the RBs for lack of run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I don't blame Moss for being a terrible NFL player, I blame the coaches and GM that are steadfast in their determination to keep him on the roster and give him meaningful playing time. Not sure what more it's going to take to understand that barring injuries, only Singletary and Cook should be getting touches in this offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Some catches were easy. Some weren't. He's made some very nice catches while here, as this shows: The Bills also love that he's a terrific pass blocker. I'd like to see Cooke too. All of them, really, but the OL has not been providing opportunities so far this year. I was referring to this year. yes he has some great moments but answer this. how many teams do you think Moss or Motor start for in this league? We need to identify if we have a true tier 2 player in Cook. that's my whole point in its entirety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Because Devin Singletary is 15 for 32 in his last two games? I wasn't gonna say it but... he hasn't been very effective. 1 hour ago, freddyjj said: Not sure why he is that guy either. He missed the block on the S on the sack/strip of Josh. And on his long run, all I could think of was that's a long TD if Cook ran that same play. No he didn't. Singletary missed the block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Our best running back left for Charlotte last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Oh I see Edmunds plays well then we move on to Moss.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: I don't blame Moss for being a terrible NFL player, I blame the coaches and GM that are steadfast in their determination to keep him on the roster and give him meaningful playing time. Not sure what more it's going to take to understand that barring injuries, only Singletary and Cook should be getting touches in this offense. We had 92 offensive snaps - moss played 16. On those he had the longest play of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: We had 92 offensive snaps - moss played 16. On those he had the longest play of the day. And it's 16 too many quite frankly especially the drive that was killed giving him 2 straight pointless carries... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Wyobills89 said: I might be in the minority but I'd actually like to see Duke in a game. I mean he has had success in the league before. Duke is the new Yeldon/Breida. Saw that coming a mile away. These veteran RBs are going to learn to stop coming here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Hey man, 43 yards is a long way to go with your eyes closed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) Frank Gore was a drive killing, complete 0 here and was my single point of aggravation in that 19 season….And McDermott was OBSESSED with dressing him and giving him high leverage carries. The coach simply can’t identify an effective RB Edited September 26, 2022 by Brianmoorman4jesus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: And it's 16 too many quite frankly especially the drive that was killed giving him 2 straight pointless carries... Right because rotating players yesterday made no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: And it's 16 too many quite frankly especially the drive that was killed giving him 2 straight pointless carries... He had the longest play of the day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, freddyjj said: Not sure why he is that guy either. He missed the block on the S on the sack/strip of Josh. And on his long run, all I could think of was that's a long TD if Cook ran that same play. I thought the same thing about n the run. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Frank Gore was a drive killing, complete 0 here and was my single point of aggravation in that 19 season….And McDermott was OBSESSED with dressing him and giving him high leverage carries. The coach simply can’t identify an effective RB I keep getting flashbacks to Mike Tolbert up the middle for no gain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 59 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: You asked a question. I answered it, as did several others here. And then you revealed your unwillingness to listen to answers. This is a hate thread whose title should be something more like, "Wah, wah, I don't like Zach Moss." Fine, whatever. You want to explain away the facts that don't fit your position. Again, whatever. You won't understand the world as well as people who try to look at all the available information, but that's your privilege. Like I said, let's revisit at the end of the year and see if his YPC holds up. I'm betting it won't based on three years worth of pattern observations. But you're right, I'm not a football coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Can we just label these posts "Anti-(fill in a player's name) Campaign Thread" so the rest of us can sidestep it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 45 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I wasn't gonna say it but... he hasn't been very effective. No he didn't. Singletary missed the block. I acknowledged my mistake to prior poster who noted it was 26. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, freddyjj said: Not sure why he is that guy either. He missed the block on the S on the sack/strip of Josh. And on his long run, all I could think of was that's a long TD if Cook ran that same play. Singletary missed the block. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Singletary missed the block. @Dr Sackl. I'm talking about the play on the Bills 10 yard line. Is that what you are talking about? Because I made a note of 26 missing the block that caused the fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, extrahammer said: Not taking away blame on our coaches yesterday, but how has he earned his place as the change of pace back in this offense? It doesn't make sense to me. Where are the results? Yesterday was his best game because of a 43 yard run? He's been here 3 years and he fumbled in Week 1 too. They should have kept the rookie who just got signed off our practice squad, he had something both Singletary and Moss are missing and that is speed and burst to the line. Moss is on this team to get those tough short yardage plays and he sucks at that, time to admit he was a mistake and move on. Edited September 26, 2022 by Niagara Dude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 The 4th down play where Moss caught the pass, ducked under the would be tackler, to then pop up and get the 1st was spectacular. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) Because he’s our most consistent blocker … a good pass catcher … and breaks at least 1 tackle every run Geez some of you guys I don’t know what you watch… Is he a Hall of Fame talent, no But he breaks a tackle every play… Caught a dump off on 4th and short… Short of the line with a dude all over him… Casually ducked through tackle picked up the first down At one point we gave him a dive up the middle… He got hit 2 1/2 yards in the backfield by three NFL defenders And still picked up about a half a yard or a yard… He’s the only guy on our roster who can do that Edited September 26, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 He's absolutely useless out there. Bills can pick up any any homeless guy from the streets and I bet he'll be better than Moss. I hope they cut him and give someone else a chance. Soooo tired of the one yard run and fall down strategy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 This begged for a second thread. strong work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Get him freaking gone! Bye Felicia 😃(is that still a thing?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: He's absolutely useless out there. Bills can pick up any any homeless guy from the streets and I bet he'll be better than Moss. I hope they cut him and give someone else a chance. Soooo tired of the one yard run and fall down strategy. Are you really Joe Ferguson? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: He's absolutely useless out there. Bills can pick up any any homeless guy from the streets and I bet he'll be better than Moss. I hope they cut him and give someone else a chance. Soooo tired of the one yard run and fall down strategy. This is EXACTLY why the Bills are in the pickle they're in!! The dime a dozen theory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Beast said: Are you really Joe Ferguson? LOL Haven't checked the interwebs lately for JF status, but is he still alive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Zack Moss had a 43 yard run in a huge hole against an exhausted Dolphins team. Apart from that, he has 12 rushes for 35 yards this season… less than 3 yards per carry… and he doesn’t play special teams. Somehow, he’s even worse than last year. You could tell McDermott wanted to bench Motor after his fumble, but then realized Moss is a complete joke and Cook just isn’t ready yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Moss is boring 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Zack Moss had a 43 yard run in a huge hole against an exhausted Dolphins team. Apart from that, he has 12 rushes for 35 yards this season… less than 3 yards per carry… and he doesn’t play special teams. Somehow, he’s even worse than last year. You could tell McDermott wanted to bench Motor after his fumble, but then realized Moss is a complete joke and Cook just isn’t ready yet. At the very least, he's better than Zeke Elliott😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 hours ago, Rigotz said: Zack Moss had a 43 yard run in a huge hole against an exhausted Dolphins team. Apart from that, he has 12 rushes for 35 yards this season… less than 3 yards per carry… and he doesn’t play special teams. Somehow, he’s even worse than last year. You could tell McDermott wanted to bench Motor after his fumble, but then realized Moss is a complete joke and Cook just isn’t ready yet. He had 6 snaps against Baltimore. Legit barely played. We're complaining about him gaining yards now? What are we doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Dressing 5 RB's on gameday is silly. Moss + a pick for a legit back is something we should pursue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 12 hours ago, TheCockSportif said: Haven't checked the interwebs lately for JF status, but is he still alive? YEs. He has battled cancer I believe twice, and beat it both times (meaning I believe he has been cancer free for a few years). I think he is 72ish? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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