Poor coaching by McDermott is becoming a theme

[TH3]

1 hour ago, FieldGeneral said:

0-7 in close games since last season isn't good. 

This narrative is so wrong. Its more like when they get beat… the just barely get beat.

[BeastMaster]

I've been saying it for years...McD is not a championship caliber coach. I always hope he evolves, but I don't think it's gonna happen. 

 

One could argue we have missed at least one year of our championship window...possibly two.

 

Will this organization be content with being a contender, or will they look to shake things up if they aren't meeting their ultimate goal?

[Bubba Gump]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Diggs had to come off the field every other play in the 4th.

McKenzie had to go out multiple times.

 

 

100 degree heat index and no shade.

 

Thats what we dealt with today.

 

Seriously??? They play there every year and haven't had so many players cramp up or have to leave the field as they did today. New England played there with a 108 degree index. Guess how many players they had leave the game? Zero!!!

[Einstein]

16 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

The play to Gabe in the endzone wasn't going to be overturned.  The problem on 3rd and 22 is we only rushed 3 guys.  We were getting pressure on Tua all day.  If anything we should have blitzed 5 and given him no time to get the ball way downfield.  I was livid at that defense.  

 

Let’s talk about what-if it wasn’t overturned.

 

Would that have been the worse thing?

 

The players were exhausted, it was about to be third down, we need to get in the endzone - would the extended timeout have been good despite the chance they lose the challenge?

 

Perhaps more fitting than calling timeout on the next drive on a random mid-field(ish) first down!

[streetkings01]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

3rd string center

3rd string guard

2nd string RT

5th string CB

Back up CB

Diggs had to come off the field every other play in the 4th.

McKenzie had to go out multiple times.

Second string SS

Second string FS

Back up DT

2 practice squad DT called up.

Kumerow who has played decently also leaves with an injury.

 

100 degree heat index and no shade.

 

Thats what we dealt with today.

And still had a chance to win.

[Southern_Bills]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

3rd string center

3rd string guard

2nd string RT

5th string CB

Back up CB

Diggs had to come off the field every other play in the 4th.

McKenzie had to go out multiple times.

Second string SS

Second string FS

Back up DT

2 practice squad DT called up.

Kumerow who has played decently also leaves with an injury.

 

100 degree heat index and no shade.

 

Thats what we dealt with today.

 

Also a dropped pick 6, a missed FG, 2 missed opportunities to get a shot at a FG, Gabe Davis dropping a TD, Josh missing Mckenzie in the end zone.

 

For sure, McDermott probably should have went out there and made the plays for them.

 

It's the NFL, you can't win every game.

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

 

Seriously??? They play there every year and haven't had so many players cramp up or have to leave the field as they did today. New England played there with a 108 degree index. Guess how many players they had leave the game? Zero!!!

We held the ball for 40 minutes on offense.

They were on the field twice as long as Miami’s offense.  Did we lose any defensive players from heat?

 

Our offense and defense was completely depleted.  What is your point?

[Nuncha]

14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Maybe they can win a close game for once and not cave when the going gets tough?

Relax - it's a long season.  Like I said we weren't going 17-0, and those who thought we were need to get real.

[Roundybout]

12 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

I've been saying it for years...McD is not a championship caliber coach. I always hope he evolves, but I don't think it's gonna happen. 

 

One could argue we have missed at least one year of our championship window...possibly two.

 

Will this organization be content with being a contender, or will they look to shake things up if they aren't meeting their ultimate goal?

These posts make it on this board after every loss. It’s not gonna happen. 

[Airseven]

I agree about McDermott. There’s always that element of executing under pressure that they continue to be lacking. And they fail in bizarre fashion reflective of mental collapse. It’s exactly why the Super Bowl hype is misplaced.

Edited September 25, 2022 by Airseven

[Locomark]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

3rd string center

3rd string guard

2nd string RT

5th string CB

Back up CB

Diggs had to come off the field every other play in the 4th.

McKenzie had to go out multiple times.

Second string SS

Second string FS

Back up DT

2 practice squad DT called up.

Kumerow who has played decently also leaves with an injury.

 

100 degree heat index and no shade.

 

Thats what we dealt with today.

But it was still winnable. We missed an easy FG. We bobbled a snap and then inexplicably threw a pass instead of grounding for another FG. Either of those gets kicked and we win. It’s a game of 2-4 key plays and the early fumble TD gave them some hope early. 

[Southern Bills Fan]

I agree that he’s not going anywhere but I do have to agree that consistently giving up 3rd and a mile and never having timeouts left when we need them is becoming a problem. 

[John from Riverside]

…….

[Nuncha]

20 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

I agree that Josh was a little off by the end. Our best guys on D and O were needing to overcompensate for hell breaking loose prior and then during the game. 

He threw a grounder to an open receiver that probably would have been the winning score, and he took a sack late that ate a bunch of time.  He wasn't perfect but had a solid game overall.

[Since1981]

9 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

3rd string center

3rd string guard

2nd string RT

5th string CB

Back up CB

Diggs had to come off the field every other play in the 4th.

McKenzie had to go out multiple times.

Second string SS

Second string FS

Back up DT

2 practice squad DT called up.

Kumerow who has played decently also leaves with an injury.

Maybe the team gels around this ugly mess and springs ahead

[BeastMaster]

5 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

These posts make it on this board after every loss. It’s not gonna happen. 

Then neither will a Lombardi happen.

[ChrisWatson#21]

OP don’t forget the Hail Murray game😂

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

A “move common to the game” does not exist in the endzone.

 

You can catch a touchdown and then stand still. And it’s still a touchdown.

 

 

Not true. You need to complete the catch and Davis did not.  DB made a great play. 

McD was correct in not challenging that call.

[Believer]

Post mortem will show plenty of reasons for this heartbreaker…

 

For me, the biggest game day factor was our Loss of Poise…

-Unnecessary roughing penalties

-Lack of a running game and way too many forced passes… (67 passes??)

-Running away from the sidelines trying to get an extra yard in clock management situations…

 

We were simply out coached and out played today…

 

Upside is we can put all the Media Best Team  In Football talk behind us… and get back to work…

[What a Tuel]

Every year McDermott improves on our shortcomings against the teams that beat us and these guys want to tear him down for the unknown of some supposedly greater coach?

 

I hate this place after a loss.

[warrior9]

2 hours ago, Einstein said:

I am a member of a general NFL forum and they have told me for the better part of a year now that McDermott holds our roster back. I’ve brushed off these comments for some time, but i’m starting to see their point.

 

- 0 and 7 in one score games the last two seasons

 

- Challenging a clear Titans catch last week was indefensible

 

- Not challenging a potential Gabe Davis TD this week was indefensible 

 

- Playing shallow coverage on 3rd and 22, allowing TWO seperate receivers to get open deep, is indefensible

 

- Not having your WR’s ready to go down with enough time to spike the ball

 

- Don’t even get me started on 13 seconds

 

- Our inability to win short yardage situations for several years is indefensible.

 

- We as a team seem to have removed QB sneak from the play book. We never run it. Ever. See this tweet for how I feel about that. Hard to think that’s not a directive from the top, seeing that two separate OC’s refuse to call it.

 

 

Yeah fire him. You people are absolutely ridiculous. You'll be the same person praising him next week after we beat Baltimore. Is he perfect? No. Is any coach? No.  We lost one game. We've been to the conference championship, division championship, and play offs the last 4 years. We have a superstar QB.

 

you're complaining about a game where we lost by 2 with 2 rookies at corner and 2 6th round draft picks (second years) at safety? 

 

Dude, get a grip. 

[pigpen65]

Guy is definitely a choker in close games. He always loses them 

[Old Coot]

You have to catch, control, two feet AND a move common to the game. He didn't have the last bit.

 

This is the rule for non-TD catches.  Does it apply to TD catches?  If so how are those toe drag TD catches with the receiver making the catch while leaning out of bounds ruled catches.  There is a catch, control and two feet in but where's the "move common to the game?"

[warrior9]

9 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

Guy is definitely a choker in close games. He always loses them 

So what do you suggest we do? 

[Einstein]

18 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Not true. You need to complete the catch and Davis did not.  DB made a great play. 

McD was correct in not challenging that call.

 

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/242299-poor-coaching-by-mcdermott-is-becoming-a-theme/?do=findComment&comment=7910209

 

[ArtVandalay]

Ask yourself, could you tell which coach was the rookie head coach today?

[Beast]

15 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

Guy is definitely a choker in close games. He always loses them 

 

Agreed.

 

I can't believe he didn't make that 38 yard FG. I can't believe he didn't hang onto that Allen pass in the endzone. I can't believe he dropped that pick 6...not to mention short hopping it to a wide open McKenzie for a TD.

There were other plays I could mention his suckiness as well.

 

He's a scrub.

Edited September 26, 2022 by Beast

[popcornpam]

Why did McDermott play stall ball instead of letting Josh score early and often? All it did was wear out our team in the heat! McDermott is always  over thinking. We’ve got a  Ferrari Quarterback-let him score. Stop< Dunking and Dunking. That kind of  game plan is for subpar quarterbacks. McDermott is micromanaging the game plan too much!

[Stenbar]

I do not like McDermott in a game situation at all. I do not think he has the ability to see what needs to be done to win a game under not normal circumstances or make the correct decision under a stressful important key time of a game. I have only seen conservative and mish mash leadership during those instances. It works once in awhile, ex. the pick 6 against the Ravens in the playoffs two years ago. Andy Reid was like that, he finally one a Super Bowl, and he had overwhelming talent to do it with.  We "had" that until last week. This game was lost by players being injured prior, and non hydrated or prepared for the heat they encountered. A few bad coaching calls, and missed plays being made. Not all on the coach. But he is partly responsible, he did not do enough to get the win. It's one loss, not the end of the world. I am not bothered by the loss itself, I am bothered by the lack of preparedness of the team, which could be due to the loss of a day of a short week. We will win the division, but he has to get better if they are to win the Super Bowl for sure.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 minute ago, popcornpam said:

Why did McDermott play stall ball instead of letting Josh score early and often? All it did was wear out our team in the heat! McDermott is always  over thinking. We’ve got a  Ferrari Quarterback-let him score. Stop< Dunking and Dunking. That kind of  game plan is for subpar quarterbacks. McDermott is micromanaging the game plan too much!

Running the clock out on ourselves. I hate that so much. When you are behind, you don’t run the clock out. Teams do it in the NBA constantly. You are trying to catch up. Score as fast as you can. Why put pressure on yourself 

[BuffaloRebound]

I wouldn’t call it poor coaching, but he does show a tendency to wet his pants in big spots.  

I think best example is his calling a TO last week against Tenn with 2 seconds on game clock and Titans defender jumps Offside but it’s negated by McDermott getting jumpy.  Cost us potentially 4 points.  

He obviously choked in the 13 seconds against Chiefs.  I think Josh is similar to McDermott. They’re intense try-hard types that can sometimes lose their heads, but I’m glad they’re both on our side.  

[John from Riverside]

14 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Ask yourself, could you tell which coach was the rookie head coach today?

You mean the one that was burning his timeouts in the first quarter On losing challenges

[TheCockSportif]

I'm keeping this to a dull roar as I did last season, so this is my last response until playoffs.  Coaching is a problem once again.  When this team is rolling, I like their chances.  If they are in a dogfight, and making mistakes along the way, I don't like their chances at all.

[foreboding]

I was there...it was brutally hot and the bills bench is right in the sun...phins are in the shade. That said...we def should have tried the fg at the half. The team had 3 or 5 outs to win thay game. It's a bummer but probably not the worst thing. Now we can put all the automatic SB talk to bed and get back to work.

[Scott7975]

This team fielded a preseason roster and lost by 2 points.  Id say that makes the coaching look pretty damn good.

[Bermuda Triangle]

5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

You mean the one that was burning his timeouts in the first quarter On losing challenges

Or throwing challenge flags on plays that could not be challenged?

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

Has anyone mentioned taking a timeout on the Dolphins 1st punt? 

 

Wasting that timeout blew our chance at a FG at the end of the 1st half.

[Old Coot]

14 minutes ago, popcornpam said:

Why did McDermott play stall ball

The offense played "stall" ball; that is, short passes, because Miami was blitzing and Josh was playing behind a make-shift OL for most of the game.  He mostly did not have time to wait for deep passing routes to develop.

 

The offensive game play was good but as a result of other factors (mosyly the beastly hot & humid weather) the offense could not get it done.

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Or throwing challenge flags on plays that could not be challenged?

 

Yeah, I thought that was supposed to be a penalty?

[Livinginthepast]

McD can definitely win a SB with this team but they can only do it in a blowout game. Less than a TD apart on the score line and they are toast.