Inigo Montoya Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) I'm not quite sure how that is possible. Announcers are mum on it. Tua being back in the game seems to violate every bit of the protocol. Gross Motor Instability ---- Check Confusion ----- Check "IF OBSERVED AT ANY POINT ---NO RETURN TO PLAY Tua couldn't stand or walk after he hit his head on the turf. I'm looking forward to seeing the NFL explain this one... Edited September 25, 2022 by Inigo Montoya 5 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Seems to be a different rule for QB's. Not sure why buts it's all a sham basically 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 So what if he did? Playing a QB that has a concussion isn't a bad thing though it is obvious he has no effects from that hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Tua still sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 It's impossible. They will get in trouble for this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Beast said: So what if he did? Playing a QB that has a concussion isn't a bad thing though it is obvious he has no effects from that hit. But if all these players B word about their CTR from there chosen profession than the other players are the ones that need to police this. Or just stfu about getting their boo-boos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Not much brains not much to concuss... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 49 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: I'm not quite sure how that is possible. Announcers are mum on it. Tua being back in the game seems to violate every bit of the protocol. Gross Motor Instability ---- Check Confusion ----- Check "IF OBSERVED AT ANY POINT ---NO RETURN TO PLAY Tua couldn't stand or walk after he hit his head on the turf. I'm looking forward to seeing the NFL explain this one... It doens't really matter. Tua wasn't that good in this game. He didn't even have 200 yards passing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Heat and mistakes beat the Bills not Tua. But I do agree, if you make a protocol, stick to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 He played fine after, so not sure what the problem is. Maybe the Bills clueless coaches had something to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 this is weak sauce to be mad that tua came back in. we had multiple chances to win. we lost. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 The protocals are a joke. If the NFL wants someone in, it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 To the OP: I think this is one (of many) really interesting aspects to the game today. Imagine your son got knocked silly in a high school football game and literally couldn't stand or walk. He then "comes to" 10 minutes later and seems fine. Would you want him playing football at any point that same day? I would be scared for him to play the following week! 4 minutes ago, zevo said: this is weak sauce to be mad that tua came back in. we had multiple chances to win. we lost. You're missing the point entirely! LOL 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 he was in the protocol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 not sure how he can clear protocal after how he looked? That's the NFL for you - it would be like the NFL scheduling a team coming off a Monday night game to play in Miami in September. Player safety is not a consideration for the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, zevo said: this is weak sauce to be mad that tua came back in. we had multiple chances to win. we lost. I dont think anyone is mad. He literally didnt do anything in 2nd half. It does seem to make the concussion protocol pointless though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, What a Tuel said: I dont think anyone is mad. He literally didnt do anything in 2nd half. It does seem to make the concussion protocol pointless though. If they want to put their players at risk then I could personally care less..Im only worried about our players and what the Bills do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: It doens't really matter. Tua wasn't that good in this game. He didn't even have 200 yards passing. It 100% matters if people are suing the NFL for CTE and player health is supposed to be paramount. It may not matter on the small scale of the game, but it's a huge black eye on a league that supposedly prides itself on player safety . 10 minutes ago, zevo said: this is weak sauce to be mad that tua came back in. we had multiple chances to win. we lost. Not just about the game dude. If you're going to flag Edmunds for a hit on a defenseless receiver because of player safety, then the league is obligated to protect a player who fell over and needed two guys to keep him on his feet. It's about the NFL double standard, not a win or loss. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said: I'm not quite sure how that is possible. Announcers are mum on it. Tua being back in the game seems to violate every bit of the protocol. Gross Motor Instability ---- Check Confusion ----- Check "IF OBSERVED AT ANY POINT ---NO RETURN TO PLAY Tua couldn't stand or walk after he hit his head on the turf. I'm looking forward to seeing the NFL explain this one... It was labeled as a back injury on the stat sheet Cough cougg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, scuba guy said: It was labeled as a back injury on the stat sheet Cough cougg The NFL wanted him out there. They made sure he was out there. Remember, the NFL is classified as entertainment, not a sport. I keep forgetting that when I rail against the terrible officiating. It's like the WWE, right? The manager distracts the ref while the guy beats the other guy with a steel chair and you're wondering how the refs could miss it. This game sets up a big rematch later this year, which might have initially been a forgettable game with lower ratings. Funny how the games fall, especially this seasons, so that there are few duds. And even those that should be duds are somehow close, or upsets. Buffalo made mistakes, on and off the field. Not gonna deny that. But Tua somehow clearing protocol that quickly, and the refs being so blatantly one-sided doesn't keep me from wondering if games are indeed nudged, and storylines invented. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I can only speak personally, but I’ve had a few concussions. 2 with permanent memory loss. the first one I was knocked out for maybe a minute, then totally fine. I wasn’t cloudy or fuzzy until the next day, so I went back in the game. This was in HS the 2nd I have no memory for maybe 30-45 minutes. I was knocked out but not cold. I remember running off the field but not getting off the field. I must not have said anything because a few minutes later I went back into the game and played 100% blackout. At some point someone must have realized I was messed and they took my helmet and stuck me on the bench, where I came to. Since this was college sports I had taken a “base line” test prior to the season starting. I was given that test Monday and Tuesday and passed and was allowed to return to practice. Had I been given that test on the sideline, after coming to, I probably would have passed right then and there. so basically a lot of your concussion issues kinda go away immediately. Sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, peterpan said: I can only speak personally, but I’ve had a few concussions. 2 with permanent memory loss. the first one I was knocked out for maybe a minute, then totally fine. I wasn’t cloudy or fuzzy until the next day, so I went back in the game. This was in HS the 2nd I have no memory for maybe 30-45 minutes. I was knocked out but not cold. I remember running off the field but not getting off the field. I must not have said anything because a few minutes later I went back into the game and played 100% blackout. At some point someone must have realized I was messed and they took my helmet and stuck me on the bench, where I came to. Since this was college sports I had taken a “base line” test prior to the season starting. I was given that test Monday and Tuesday and passed and was allowed to return to practice. Had I been given that test on the sideline, after coming to, I probably would have passed right then and there. so basically a lot of your concussion issues kinda go away immediately. Sometimes. But that's why the NFL is (supposed to be) conservative on potential concussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, scuba guy said: It was labeled as a back injury on the stat sheet Cough cougg Smacks his head on the turf. ”Back injury”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Let’s see what the league does about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) concussion protocol I thought was assessed by Physicians who act under a hippocratic oath. Right? If tua passed he passed Im shocked If we cant trust the Dr's then I agree the NFL is wack .......health not being an NFL focus. it's Money. are you shocked? lol smh Edited September 25, 2022 by muppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 What does it normally take to clear the protocol? Outside of one play it wasn't like he was lighting it up out there.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I’m not upset Tua played again after the hit because of the Bills losing, I’m upset he played again because of existing protocol and player safety. Tua didn’t beat the Bills today, the Bills and the weather beat the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 They have an independent NFL doctor to evaluate, what did that doctor say? I understand that Miami doctors are bias but how in the hell can an independent doc ignore the wooziness and wobbly legs after he got up? The old announcers from yesteryear would have said he had got his "bell rung"! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, zevo said: this is weak sauce to be mad that tua came back in. we had multiple chances to win. we lost. This thread was started right after the 2nd half began. Not after we lost. It's not weak sauce, it's a flagrant violation of the NFL concussion policy and Tua shouldn't have sniffed the field again today. Expect hefty fines to everyone involved in deciding to put Tua back out there. Any physician involved in the decision should get a letter from their medical board of licensure. OKing Tua to go back out there was clear cut malpractice. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Reminds me of the McMahon concussion that cleared at halftime back in the day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I was shocked. Absolute BS and DANGEROUS! They should lose picks, but likely just a slap on hand fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Peter King states that the unaffiliated doctor cleared Tua to return to the field of play after inspecting him at half time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 32 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: They have an independent NFL doctor to evaluate, what did that doctor say? I understand that Miami doctors are bias but how in the hell can an independent doc ignore the wooziness and wobbly legs after he got up? The old announcers from yesteryear would have said he had got his "bell rung"! One of the reasons to implement a "concussion protocol" in the first place was to end the past practice of playing players in the same game in which they were knocked woozy or had their bell rung as you say. When this topic is discussed, people almost laugh at the insanity of the old school practice of playing a player in a game after he has been whacked on the head hard enough for him to not know where he was for a moment. But that is exactly what happened today. If this had been a boxing match, Buffalo would have been awarded a 2 point round for a knockdown, and Tua would have had to stand and be alert by the time the ref counts 8. I don't think he would have passed that test, and yet he was playing again after a short halftime break. To me, that's insane, and I can't believe it doesn't de facto violate a black and white rule governing this stuff. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Tua unfortunately for us threw a big pass on 3rd & 22 after his ‘concussion.’ Game changer. If Miami violated the concussion protocol, that’s on them if Tua comes out with brain injury. Not sure what else we can say. We still lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: Nfl is Corrupt. The Dolphins are corrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 44 minutes ago, Malazan said: What does it normally take to clear the protocol? Outside of one play it wasn't like he was lighting it up out there.. The protocol requires you to pass certain cognitive function tests and doctor should have immediately checked his eyes when he hit the sideline. If the doctor waited to do the physical inspection upon reaching locker room he knew he was not doing properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I heard on WGR the NFLPA will be launching an investigation. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/09/25/nflpa-wants-an-investigation-of-the-decision-to-allow-tua-tagovailoa-to-return/ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, KHAN said: I heard on WGR the NFLPA will be launching an investigation. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/09/25/nflpa-wants-an-investigation-of-the-decision-to-allow-tua-tagovailoa-to-return/ "...and Tua himself afterward, blamed the instability on a back injury that had not been previously disclosed by the team." Isn't this, in and of itself, a violation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: The Dolphins are corrupt. They are the new Patriots with their issue in the offseason with Sean Payton and Brady and obviously all the cheap shots. Josh will be ready next time, he holds grudges 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Billzgobowlin said: They are the new Patriots with their issue in the offseason with Sean Payton and Brady and obviously all the cheap shots. Josh will be ready next time, he holds grudges Minus the wins and quality QB play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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