Justin Herbert - fractured rib cartilage, day to day

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Process]

Jags Texans and Browns next three games 

[Billznut]

He probably has an actual rib fracture but they are downplaying it for the public and opponents. 

Edited September 16, 2022 by Billznut

[716er]

This happened to me from doing chin ups lol

 

The pain is relatively mild but once every 20 minutes or so you feel like you're having a heart attack for a minute or two. When I first had symptoms I called 911. They rushed me to the hospital and boy was I relieved when I found out it was just fractured cartilage. Took about a month of rest for it to go away.

[Punching Bag]

12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Keep him away from team doctor.  Previous QB had issues with doctors and ribs.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

How do you fracture cartilage?
 

That makes no sense to me and I am a doctor (albeit a doctor of the healing martial arts). 
 

[Augie]

Tyrod suggests he be VERY careful regarding who is allowed to administer shots to numb the pain. 

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

How do you fracture cartilage?
 

That makes no sense to me and I am a doctor (albeit a doctor of the healing martial arts). 
 

Are you making play-doh worms?

[Son of a K-Gun]

7 minutes ago, 716er said:

This happened to me from doing chin ups lol

 

The pain is relatively mild but once every 20 minutes or so you feel like you're having a heart attack for a minute or two. When I first had symptoms I called 911. They rushed me to the hospital and boy was I relieved when I found out it was just fractured cartilage. Took about a month of rest for it to go away.

And I’ll bet your month of rest didn’t include getting hit by 300lb giants…or bears, or dolphins or whatever.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 minute ago, The Wiz said:

Are you making play-doh worms?

of course not. That is absurd. I am readying my hands to unbreak some of Daniel’s cartilage.  

[MJS]

The hit where it happened didn't look like much of a damaging impact. I think it happened when he landed on the ground. The defender's helmet hit first and Herbert landed on top of the helmet on the side where his ribs were injured.

[Big Turk]

That's not good...he is gonna have to play through some pain...hopefully their doc doesn't puncture his lung when giving pregame painkillers...wouldn't that be a twist of fate...

 

The way he got the job is the same way his backup ends up being forced to play a few games

 

16 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

How do you fracture cartilage?
 

That makes no sense to me and I am a doctor (albeit a doctor of the healing martial arts). 
 

 

Probably the same way you can fracture your nose which is also cartilage?

[JoeF]

The kid is a badass...not quite Josh Allen badass but he's a badass.  That last drive was pure guts...

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

That's not good...he is gonna have to play through some pain...hopefully their doc doesn't puncture his lung when giving pregame painkillers...wouldn't that be a twist of fate...

 

The way he got the job is the same way his backup ends up being forced to play a few games

 

Or there is something else at play here...

 

 

[Buddo]

Not something he will recover from in a hurry. 
 

A search reveals that main treatments are rest, pain killers, anti-inflammation, and avoiding strenuous activities like sports.

 

while it wasn’t his throwing side, it’s still going to have an effect, as you still use some rotation in the act of throwing.

 

I think he’s going to have to play a majority of the season with it, and pain, as he’s almost certainly going to take more hits along the way, and I don’t suppose even small ones will help any recovery. 

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Buddo said:

Not something he will recover from in a hurry. 
 

A search reveals that main treatments are rest, pain killers, anti-inflammation, and avoiding strenuous activities like sports.

 

while it wasn’t his throwing side, it’s still going to have an effect, as you still use some rotation in the act of throwing.

 

I think he’s going to have to play a majority of the season with it, and pain, as he’s almost certainly going to take more hits along the way, and I don’t suppose even small ones will help any recovery. 

 

It’s almost like Fitzy was the backup or something……

[RJ (not THAT RJ)]

That's the same injury that knocked Rob Johnson out of the lineup in 1998....

[Virgil]

I feel bad for the kid.  This is one of those injuries that may not properly heal until the offseason, but he'll play through it and production could suffer.

 

While they are competition, I like this new wave of young qb's like Herbert and Burrow.  Should make for a fun upcoming decade.  Can't wait to see their contracts

[Success]

He has earned my respect.  He took some real shots last night, and toughed it out until the end.

 

Though, that 3rd down where he could have walked easily for a 1st - that was weird....

 

[PonyBoy]

26 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Or there is something else at play here...

 

 

 

HEY!! I know what this picture means now! Thanks to this board 😃

[SoTier]

33 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

It’s almost like Fitzy was the backup or something……

 

Fitzy was part of the broadcast team ....

[Augie]

1 minute ago, SoTier said:

 

Fitzy was part of the broadcast team ....

 

Do you think the league might want to ban him, or something? This is getting ridiculous!!! 

[BuffaloBill]

1 hour ago, 716er said:

This happened to me from doing chin ups lol

 

The pain is relatively mild but once every 20 minutes or so you feel like you're having a heart attack for a minute or two. When I first had symptoms I called 911. They rushed me to the hospital and boy was I relieved when I found out it was just fractured cartilage. Took about a month of rest for it to go away.

He played with it. Tough sled 

[buffaloboyinATL]

1 hour ago, 716er said:

This happened to me from doing chin ups lol

 

The pain is relatively mild but once every 20 minutes or so you feel like you're having a heart attack for a minute or two. When I first had symptoms I called 911. They rushed me to the hospital and boy was I relieved when I found out it was just fractured cartilage. Took about a month of rest for it to go away.

I assume he will not rest for a month, so I wonder if this will bug him all season. I wonder if this is pain management only, or if it could get much worse with continued contact. 

[Buddo]

2 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I assume he will not rest for a month, so I wonder if this will bug him all season. I wonder if this is pain management only, or if it could get much worse with continued contact. 

 

My guess is that he's going to have to miss some time, at least in the beginning, and then he's going to have to hope he doesn't get hit too often, because that sn't going to help it heal at all.

 

It's all a bit sketchy tbh, but another consideration should be, imho, is making sure he's got a healthy O-Line in front of him, and that's probably going to be a week or two before that happens.

[Doc]

No surprise. That’s what it looked like.

[Behindenemylines]

1 hour ago, 716er said:

This happened to me from doing chin ups lol

 

The pain is relatively mild but once every 20 minutes or so you feel like you're having a heart attack for a minute or two. When I first had symptoms I called 911. They rushed me to the hospital and boy was I relieved when I found out it was just fractured cartilage. Took about a month of rest for it to go away.

Ribs suck!  Broke 4 in a bike accident and didn’t  sleep for a month.   Exactly would feel like an MI and would hit you like a ton of bricks if you coughed or heaven for bid had to Fart.  🤣 

[Billl]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

The hit where it happened didn't look like much of a damaging impact. I think it happened when he landed on the ground. The defender's helmet hit first and Herbert landed on top of the helmet on the side where his ribs were injured.

I’m pretty sure he was hurt before that play, but that one made it worse.

[YoloinOhio]

2 hours ago, Process said:

Jags Texans and Browns next three games 

Not easy wins without him (or with him… they lost to the Texans last year)

[716er]

43 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

He played with it. Tough sled 

When he didn’t run on 3rd down he probably got that acute pain right then. 

[RaoulDuke79]

I gained a lot of respect for Herbert last night.

[co_springs_billsfan]

2 hours ago, Process said:

Jags Texans and Browns next three games 

Last minute schedule change just announced by Goodell: the Pats* will now be playing the Chargers in week 3.

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, RJ (not THAT RJ) said:

That's the same injury that knocked Rob Johnson out of the lineup in 1998....

 

 

Wasn't it the injury that was used to excuse Fitz for turning into a pumpkin mid-season in 2011?

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

So.....remind me, how did Justin Herbert get his first start in the NFL?

 

Wasn't that ......when the starter, one Tyrod Taylor, was getting a pain injection for a rib injury pre-game....and got his LUNG COLLAPSED by the Chargers doctor instead?

 

I imagine Herbert may be needing a pain management injection

 

2 hours ago, Billznut said:

He probably has an actual rib fracture but they are downplaying it for the public and opponents. 

 

It's possible, but fractured rib cartilage vs. fractured rib bones is an actual thing

 

It's also possible that he has hairline rib fractures in addition to the fractured cartilage, sometimes fractures don't show up on xray until they actually start to heal and the line of new bone reveals them.

Edited September 16, 2022 by Beck Water

[msw2112]

I had a similar injury a few years ago.  It did not impact my day-to-day life, but if I moved in certain ways, it was extremely painful.  It got better over time, but it was close to a full year before I was 100% healed.  I was not playing profesional football at the time, so I didn't need to function in the way that Herbert does, but I also didn't have access to cortisone shots, daily physical therapy, etc.  I suspect he'll be in pain all season long, but he'll be able to manage it and play.

[Chewmylegoff]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said:

He played with it. Tough sled 

yeah too right.  I’d be crying in bed sobbing for the mrs to bring me a hot water bottle and morphine.  Imagine having to stand there with rhinoceros like nfl d-linemen charging at you.   Grit, eh. 

[WhoTom]

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

Or there is something else at play here...

 

 

 

1 hour ago, PonyBoy said:

 

HEY!! I know what this picture means now! Thanks to this board 😃

 

Now that you know, you'll have to be ... "silenced."

 

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

34 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

I gained a lot of respect for Herbert last night.

You didn't already have it? 

[RunTheBall]

There’s not much difference from a fractured rib or fractured rib cartilage. Sounds like they are trying to minimize the injury. Anyway, this is pretty much a season long injury that he’s going to have to deal with. Yeah, you can do rib blocks and maybe dull it a little but cartilage, like ribs, don’t heal quickly. There isn’t much blood flow to them so that’s why it takes a long time. He’s going to try and play through it, and pain control is really the key. If he takes one shot to the ribs every 2-3 weeks it’s going to knock him back to square one. This could be a very significant injury that impacts their season.

 

 

[RaoulDuke79]

1 minute ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

You didn't already have it? 

I knew he was good. This proves he's got grit too.