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6 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

Just wait until this dude gets burned once.  People will be jumping out of the woodwork with their concerns citing stuff from training camp.

This rookie is going to turn out to be a Stud. High end ceiling. We may have a #1B CB by the time the year has ended. The future is great for this secondary

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10 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

Just wait until this dude gets burned once.  People will be jumping out of the woodwork with their concerns citing stuff from training camp.

 

Agree and it will be so nonsensical. Because ALL CBs get beat sometimes. It comes with the job. Especially rookies. The only thing to actually consider when he gets beat is can he have a short memory and move on to the next play?

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3 hours ago, ganesh said:

That is the price of having a high quality team

Or low football iq fans

10 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

Just wait until this dude gets burned once.  People will be jumping out of the woodwork with their concerns citing stuff from training camp.

The stuff that is sprouting about wanting Breece hall over Elam to me is just insane I don’t care how good hall ever becomes and less he is a top five running back in the league it will never amount to the same as having an elite corner

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One funny part about this thread is that the subject line and OP’s comments aren’t even one in the same.  Subject line asks whether we’re concerned about Elam (after his first game), OP then comments on us having been able to select a backfield starter at that spot in the draft.  Elam could become all-pro, alleviating any concerns about his abilities as a CB, and some are still going to argue that we should have taken an all-pro RB instead.  The debate on the latter may never end, and the subject line isn’t even aligned with that debate.

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On 10/3/2022 at 4:12 PM, BullBuchanan said:

Why would they do that?

 

Because we need safeties to replace Poyer/Hyde, and a cost controlled asset like Benford is perfect. And because he has played safety in the past. And because we have Tre White, Kair Elam and Taron Johnson as starting calibery CBS. 

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Just now, Allen2Moulds said:

I remember Milano his rookie year getting benched over this Veteran LB that sucked. Can't remember his name. That's what this reminds me of

It’s frustrating as hell, especially since it seems like Jackson gets burned the whole game! 

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The difference between Elam & Dane is that Elam looks to break up the pass, while Dane concedes & just starts tackling the receiver around the legs while he's catching the ball.

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2 minutes ago, NI Bills Fan said:

Anyone know what Elam's injury was at the end when he was on the ground getting treatment?  I had no audio at the time so wasn't sure. Could have been just cramp as he didn't seem to distressed.

 

He played well today. Deserves to start across from White from here on in.

Looked like cramp of some sort. They were stretching out that leg pretty aggressively 

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54 minutes ago, NI Bills Fan said:

Anyone know what Elam's injury was at the end when he was on the ground getting treatment?  I had no audio at the time so wasn't sure. Could have been just cramp as he didn't seem to distressed.

 

He played well today. Deserves to start across from White from here on in.

 

Looked like a cramp and nobody asked McD about it postgame even when talking about Elam so I'm guessing nothing serious. He also said Jackson could have probably returned and was told that by Head Trainer Nate but left Elam in there 

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10 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

 

 

I hadn't seen this yet. If Elam isn't starting next weekend, then we know Dane Jackson has some kind of photos of McDermott and Frazier doing something that would get him arrested.

 

I thought the idea was to play him against the speedsters.  I have no idea what they're doing.

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20 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

That was starter level play on that Gisecki break up. He should at least be #2

He should be CB#2 but I don't think he touched the ball or Gisecki. I think it was a drop and maybe his hand screwed up the timing of the reception. 

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I thought the idea was to play him against the speedsters.  I have no idea what they're doing.

They play zone defense most of the time. .  He was playing zone coverage just like Tre was. They aren't going to change just because Jackson was out and Elam was in.

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11 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

He should be CB#2 but I don't think he touched the ball or Gisecki. I think it was a drop and maybe his hand screwed up the timing of the reception. 

They play zone defense most of the time. .  He was playing zone coverage just like Tre was. They aren't going to change just because Jackson was out and Elam was in.

Watch it again

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19 hours ago, NI Bills Fan said:

He played well today. Deserves to start across from White from here on in.

 

And Tre White played his best game of the season and is rounding into shape. There's a scenario here where the Bills get their best CB play in the playoffs.

 

6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

He still struggles to get his head around… this is more a byproduct of how bad Thompson played rather than how good Elam was.

 

To me the failure of DBs to turn for the ball is strictly a coaching issue. I hope this does not persist as an issue anymore.

 

Look for the g__da_ned ball.

 

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1 minute ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

And Tre White played his best game of the season and is rounding into shape. There's a scenario here where the Bills get their best CB play in the playoffs.

 

 

To me the failure of DBs to turn for the ball is strictly a coaching issue. I hope this does not persist as an issue anymore.

 

Look for the g__da_ned ball.

 

Toss in Bedford just came of the injury list he could be available against the Bengals depending how many CBs we want to dress. Things are getting better on the back end again. 

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Loved seeing Elam man up Hill.  He actually chucked him at the line without a 8 yard cushion, exactly what they needed to do.   He needs to be on Chase too.  He’s going to get lit up once in a while, but at least he has a fighters chance against a WR w speed.

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I wasn't worried when we drafted him and I'm definitely not now watching him mature into an NFL player. He is seriously the best corner on this team right now. He's 2nd on the team in interceptions, made huge plays in coverage. He shut Tyreek down I think as best as anyone has this year. He's big, physical and capable of man to man coverage and as Shaq said in his presser, he's clearly been studying and working.

 

When Tre is 100% again next year, we will have the best duo in the NFL.

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11 minutes ago, Luka said:

I wasn't worried when we drafted him and I'm definitely not now watching him mature into an NFL player. He is seriously the best corner on this team right now. He's 2nd on the team in interceptions, made huge plays in coverage. He shut Tyreek down I think as best as anyone has this year. He's big, physical and capable of man to man coverage and as Shaq said in his presser, he's clearly been studying and working.

 

When Tre is 100% again next year, we will have the best duo in the NFL.

Tre appears to have lost a step.  He is always a step behind the defenders.

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