Turbo44 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Top 5 punter and could quite possibly be an upgrade from where we were 2 weeks ago!! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 We know, old news. 2 2 9 1 1 6 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 Old news? I didn't see it reported here and Tasker/WGR just announced it 20 minutes ago. Sounds pretty new to me. Didn't mean to bug ya 9 1 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Turbo44 said: Old news? I didn't see it reported here and Tasker/WGR just announced it 20 minutes ago. Sounds pretty new to me. Didn't mean to bug ya It’s in the “new punter” thread from this morning … no worries. I also considered starting a new thread but it is only draft diamonds that had it and I was waiting on a better source. But I think he’s probably right. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Old news? I didn't see it reported here and Tasker/WGR just announced it 20 minutes ago. Sounds pretty new to me. Didn't mean to bug ya New Punter thread I think it deserves its own thread Edited August 31, 2022 by Beck Water 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) Is he really a top punter or did he pad his stats by punting in high altitude? Edited August 31, 2022 by KDIGGZ 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Can someone post his holding stats? 1 17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said: Is he really a top punter or did he pad his stats by putting in high altitude? Think there was something like 0.6 yards between his stats with the Lions and the Broncos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Can someone post his holding stats? he can hold balls with the best of them. 1 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, RiotAct said: he can hold balls with the best of them. Speaking from experience? 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Can someone post his holding stats? 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, HappyDays said: Don’t you flirt with me 1 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Is he really a top punter or did he pad his stats by putting in high altitude? He's a middle-of-the-pack punter as far as average punt distance - true both in Denver and in Detroit (dome) which is important 'cuz it means wind didn't faze him. The more important stats are hard(er) to find - how many punts into the EZ vs pinned inside the 20 or inside the 10? He's capable of the occasional 68, 69 yarder. The occasional boomer is important but actually, directional punting and the ability to pin the opponent deep matter too - as does avoiding blocks and shanks. He was a dual-purpose kicker in Detroit - kicked off as well as punted, so he may offer some positional flexibility which the Bills always love. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Can someone post his holding stats? Martin has never muffed a snap. His hold spin rate on laces out is 2000. Impeccable.... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Think there was something like 0.6 yards between his stats with the Lions and the Broncos. 0.4 yds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Is he really a top punter or did he pad his stats by putting in high altitude? Some guy just lit me up on Facebook a few days ago with that argument when I said he’d be my top free agent target. He was super passionate about it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Is he really a top punter or did he pad his stats by putting in high altitude? OK, so he can putt. I want to know if he can drive the football deep when punting from his 5 yard line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Hold God 2 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 At this point put names in a hat and pick one. It's a punter. Season starts in a week. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Is he really a top punter or did he pad his stats by putting in high altitude? I have not seen the breakdown for home vs away games for him, but it would be interesting to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Old news? I didn't see it reported here and Tasker/WGR just announced it 20 minutes ago. Sounds pretty new to me. Didn't mean to bug ya Meh...someone just pissed in his cheerios. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Think there was something like 0.6 yards between his stats with the Lions and the Broncos. He also put the Denver opponents inside the 20 on a lot of his punts, which tends to hold down your average distance, but is a valuable skill. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 What's his madden rating?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 High Altitude Stat Padder God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Beck Water said: The more important stats are hard(er) to find - how many punts into the EZ vs pinned inside the 20 or inside the 10? https://www.nfl.com/players/sam-martin/stats/situational/2021/ Edited August 31, 2022 by syhuang 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: High Altitude Stat Padder God His net return was better in away games last year than at home. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Process said: At this point put names in a hat and pick one. It's a punter. Season starts in a week. Why not try to get the best one available? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Motorin' said: His net return was better in away games last year than at home. Yeah, but not by much. 43.2 vs. 42.6. Last year, his avg punt was 47.0 at home, vs 44.6 and his long at home was 68 yards, vs. 59 on the road. Those are not MAJOR differences, and may be common amongst all punters home vs away, but not they are enough to think he might get a bit of an altitude boost. Split stats on this link: https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/15928/sam-martin Edited August 31, 2022 by buffaloboyinATL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Yeah, but not by much. 43.2 vs. 42.6. Last year, his avg punt was 47.0 at home, vs 44.6 and his long at home was 68 yards, vs. 59 on the road. Those are not MAJOR differences, and may be common amongst all punters home vs away, but not they are enough to think he might get a bit of an altitude boost. Split stats on this link: https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/15928/sam-martin Even though his net yards away is a only a bit better than home, it dispels the idea that his stats are inflated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, HappyDays said: whos to say the one that was blocked was not martins fault. Maybe he held it at too upright an angle causing the kicker to kick it too low. Pass. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: What's his madden rating?!? Whatever it is, it will drop by five if/when he joins the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: whos to say the one that was blocked was not martins fault. Maybe he held it at too upright an angle causing the kicker to kick it too low. Pass. Maybe the laces were IN!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) Has any group put this much mindshare into a PUNTER? Started as G O D. Ended as D O G. SEPT 12 can’t get here fast enough! …and no punts in ‘22, per Josh anyway. Edited August 31, 2022 by Since1981 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Since1981 said: Has an group put this much mindshare into a PUNTER? Started as G O D. Ended as D O G. SEPT 12 can’t get here fast enough! …and no punts in ‘22, per Josh anyway. Sept 8th!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Motorin' said: Even though his net yards away is a only a bit better than home, it dispels the idea that his stats are inflated. Statistically speaking, that is not actually true. The most accurate measurement to determine punt distance (purely from a statistical perspective) is Avg. punt distance. Other factors contribute to the net yardage stat, such as the punt coverage team may play better at home, and get to the ball quicker. All of that being said, I like Martin and will be happy if we sign him. Either way, he's got a good leg. and hopefully he is a competent holder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 56 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Old news? I didn't see it reported here and Tasker/WGR just announced it 20 minutes ago. Sounds pretty new to me. Didn't mean to bug ya Don’t you know we have a designated fan hiding in the weeds at 1 Bills Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 He was let go in Denver because he refused to take a pay cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: What's his madden rating?!? 78… but Kern is a 79!!! 😡 doomed!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 With Kern saying no, who would people want next if Martin doesn't work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I don't like his name... Pass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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