Shake_My_Head Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: To Tim. He's looking for a weakness. Bully for Tim. But why do we need TG if we can listen to Beane and McD and form our own opinions rather than have him filter it for us? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, stevestojan said: sorry for shouting but you’re the 400th person to use this asinine argument: DUE PROCESS AND “INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY” DO NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE EMPLOYERS. THIS IS NOT A COURT OF LAW. Obviously the reference isn’t to the literal legal standard. It’s to the general theoretical approach of handling these types of matters. You might as well post an analysis of first amendment protected speech while you’re at it. For fun! Edited August 28, 2022 by Airseven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 It had to be done. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Tim Graham not having any of this. His shtick is tiring. His pious line of questioning, always assuming some kind of nefarious plot or attempt to get away with something isn't well suited in press conferences. 4 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 While I believe the accuser it is important to note that some times the accuser is not being truthful (see: Patrick Kane) and that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) The carbon dioxide must be palpable in the Buffalo area right now after the entire city just exhaled! Edited August 28, 2022 by Fleezoid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 39 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This is like the Eric Wood retirement what do you think the Over/Under will be on the amount of pages this topic will bring!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tanoros said: The way the team played last night seemed to be an indication of this whole thing impacting on the field play. Our o-line was no help, but the team didn’t seem to have the same mojo as the first two games. Quote from Beane: I do not know how he coached that game after getting that 11 page document 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I stayed out of this until now. I’m proud of my team. This had to end. 10 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 These reporters have their jizz socks right next to their laptops, I'm convinced. They get off on this *****. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, dma0034 said: While I believe the accuser it is important to note that some times the accuser is not being truthful (see: Patrick Kane) and that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Then he proves his innocence and returns to punt in the NFL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: What a shame. The Bills were put in a bad situation, and they had very little choice. This is the ultimate "rock and hard place" scenario. The organization doesn't have the time or luxury to keep him on the roster and let the investigation pan out for months. The distraction would've been ridiculous. Hopefully the truth comes out and justice is served. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Great job by our coach and GM. Good or bad, this will all be forgotten in a few days because the organization did everything right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Tim Graham is a weasel and an incedibly unlikeable person. I'm glad he had a tantrum and left TBD years ago when his feelings got hurt. 3 1 6 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, dma0034 said: While I believe the accuser it is important to note that some times the accuser is not being truthful (see: Patrick Kane) and that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Yes, and if it ends up that he is totally exonerated he can continue his career. As a matter a fact some team can sign him tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I would guess they discussed allegations against Matt and he heavily downplayed it. Maybe something like "yes, I made a mistake in the past but I've learned from it and grown as a person." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I felt like both McD and Beane were very heartfelt and genuine in their statements and motivations for taking the steps that they have, culminating in Araiza’s cutting. Terrible situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mij yllek said: so much for innocent until proven guilty Too much riding on this season. They did not see enough there to die on that hill for him. If there is enough evidence there to believe he is likely guilty, why stake your reputation to support him, and potentially sidetrack a championship season? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, sullim4 said: His shtick is tiring. His pious line of questioning, always assuming some kind of nefarious plot or attempt to get away with something isn't well suited in press conferences. Many times these kinda events the press has a tendency to make the story about themselves instead of reporting the facts. One of the many reasons why the media is pretty much hated today 2 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Now the real Puntapalooza can begin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: These reporters have their jizz socks right next to their laptops, I'm convinced. They get off on this *****. Reporters are just wanna be celebrites. The media in America today is basically nothing but losers looking for clicks and views with no regard for people they cover. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Tim - Go back to reporting boxing. No one here will give a *****. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 He'll be on the Browns by next weekend 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, Warcodered said: Now the real Puntapalooza can begin. I like Barkley 👍 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: True to a certain degree. But It is a little strange the bills knew about about this in late July apparently, but still went with him over Haack. That is the strange part to me. the only plausible explanation is that Haack is terrible and there was no chance he was getting the job— which is quite plausible! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Beane is the man, what a stud GM. I can understand McD face of the franchise and all, but in this situation, gotta give Beane the mic. As for Punt God, I said I would support him as long as he was a Bill… but now that he’s gone, this story is irrelevant to me, all I care about is the Bills. 7 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, mannc said: It sucks for Araiza, and it's totally unfair, but it's probably the right thing for the Bills. Well doesn't he bare some responsibility? I mean have you been accused of raping a 17 teen year old? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 And this is the difference between the Bills and the Browns. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I'm proud of them for doing the right thing. It wasn't perfect or pretty. They definitely could have handled this better, investigated more sooner & kept Hack instead. They are not perfect. But at the end of the day they did the right thing & sat there & answered tough questions straightforwardly. That is character & I'll take that any day. (Cleveland should take notes) 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 That was awkward. I don’t think any of the press even bother to ask about how they will address the replacement punter. Have they already brought anybody in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, SoMAn said: That was awkward. I don’t think any of the press even bother to ask about how they will address the replacement punter. Have they already brought anybody in? Reportedly they have a list of FA's for tryouts. Luckily, we don't punt much lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, dma0034 said: While I believe the accuser it is important to note that some times the accuser is not being truthful (see: Patrick Kane) and that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I think Kane did it. Proving it is a whole different ball game. Couldn't you use the same argument for Watson? He hasn't been criminally charged with anything. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, SoMAn said: That was awkward. I don’t think any of the press even bother to ask about how they will address the replacement punter. Have they already brought anybody in? a bunch of them are about to get cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, mannc said: That's true...but at this point, nothing has been proven and in fact he hasn't really even had a chance to respond. So at this point, you could easily argue that it's unfair to him. It would be unfair to the entire team having to field questions about this for an entire season. It would also be unfair to the fanbase having to hear about this after every game as well. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: And this is the difference between the Bills and the Browns. I presume you can recognize the differences between the accusations?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: How do you know it is unfair? Losing his job may just be the start. He might be in jail if he led that girl to get gang raped. This concept of innocent until proven guilty. if you want toget rid of a coworker because you two appear to be the leaders fir a promotion…have someone make a claim against him then he gets removed and you win. It does not matter if it’s actually true. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Regardless of how you feel about this story, WIVB's "perp walk" shot of Beane leaving the field house was uncalled for. The cameras should have been turned off when they walked away from the mics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Regardless of Araiza, Haack was terrible and had to go. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: These reporters have their jizz socks right next to their laptops, I'm convinced. They get off on this *****. Which is 1000% why Araiza had to be released. This would have hung over the team and dominated every single press conference all season. The Bills did what they had to do today. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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