Tannehill melting down?

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Tannehill is right. It isn't his job to mentor Malik. But if he wants to prolong his NFL career he would do it. Because after next season when his run on TEN is at an end if he wants to continue as an NFL starter his best bet is as a bridge for a team looking to draft and develop a young QB. You can make good money as a bridge. Look at Tyrod, Teddy et al. But if he gets a reputation as a guy who makes trouble when a rookie is put into the room it will hurt his chances of getting signed for that kind of role. 

True. But by the end of 2022 he'll have over $160M in career earnings, so perhaps he doesn't care if his career is prolonged. 

[without a drought]

Looks like much ado about nothing.

 

People overreacting and faking their outrage about something that they probably only read the headlines.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

I think it's refreshing, personally. Folks are always talking about how press conferences are just soundbites anymore. This is how he actually feels. It wasn't disrespectful or combative.

Sure, as a non Titans fan lol would anyone have been cool with Hughes saying this about Rousseau last year? Exactly 

6 minutes ago, without a drought said:

Looks like much ado about nothing.

 

People overreacting and faking their outrage about something that they probably only read the headlines.

Nobody is outraged. I'd expect a qb to think that way, but volunteering dirty laundry to the media is stooopid

Edited May 4, 2022 by BillsShredder83

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said:

I remember another veteran QB who was vocal about not mentoring the rookie the team brought in.  The veteran was Brett Favre, the rookie was Aaron Rodgers.

The list of examples of guys refusing to mentor someone are all future/current HOFers so I’m not sure that really compares lol 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

5 hours ago, klos63 said:

Sure Kurt, he's not trying to win your job from you. Easy to say when you don't have to back it up.

Shouldn't the coaches be the ones teaching Malik how to be an NFL QB? I get so tired of the 'mentor' schtick.  It's possible to be a good teammate and not need to be a mentor. Tannehill has enough on his plate as the starting QB.

 

I agree. 

 

During The Drought the Bills constantly talked like this. 

 

Always bugging guys like Steve Johnson to show someone like T.J. Graham how to be a WR. 

 

They did the same thing with TO and James Hardy. 

 

Chris Brown would always ask those softball questions to veterans about setting an "example" and showing the rookies what it takes. 

 

Ultimately, none of that mattered until we got a Quarterback with talent. 

[DrDawkinstein]

5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

 

I agree. 

 

During The Drought the Bills constantly talked like this. 

 

Always bugging guys like Steve Johnson to show someone like T.J. Graham how to be a WR. 

 

They did the same thing with TO and James Hardy. 

 

Chris Brown would always ask those softball questions to veterans about setting an "example" and showing the rookies what it takes. 

 

Ultimately, none of that mattered until we got a Quarterback with talent. 

 

You dont think Diggs and Sanders mentored Davis and the other young guys?

 

You dont think Hughes and Addison mentored Rousseau and Basham?

 

You dont think D Williams and Dawkins mentored Spencer Brown?

 

You dont think Frank Gore mentored Singletary?

 

Almost all vets do it. Only some diva QBs dont.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

You dont think Diggs and Sanders mentored Davis and the other young guys?

 

You dont think Hughes and Addison mentored Rousseau and Basham?

 

You dont think D Williams and Dawkins mentored Spencer Brown?

 

You dont think Frank Gore mentored Singletary?

 

Almost all vets do it. Only some diva QBs dont.

I think they did, I just don't think it's something that sets the Bills apart from any other team in the league. 

 

Do the Bills veteran players do this more/better than other teams veterans? Can you prove it? 

 

Are the Bills meaningfully different than other teams when it comes to veteran mentoring of young players? 

 

And again, none of that teaching made a hills of beans difference until Josh Allen. 

[billsfan1959]

The closest Tennessee should ever let Tannehill get to mentoring Willis would be for them to provide Willis the tapes of Tannehill's last 3 playoff performances as an example of what not to do as an NFL QB...

[Jauronimo]

Tannehill just made sure his career ends when hes no longer contending for a starting position.  Very dumb of him.  Look at all the guys who managed to hang around holding clipboards for 10 more years banking millions because they were team players and valuable in developing rookies.

[TBBills]

It's like asking Fitz to teach you how to get to the playoffs.

[Mr. WEO]

11 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Tannehill just made sure his career ends when hes no longer contending for a starting position.  Very dumb of him.  Look at all the guys who managed to hang around holding clipboards for 10 more years banking millions because they were team players and valuable in developing rookies.

 

I don't think is true.  If there is any perceived talent left in a player, he will get a spot.  It's too valuable a position to leave a guy like Tannehill off your roster as a backup over this.  The list of guys who have had a 9 or so year career and then bounced around for 10 more years developing rookies is pretty short.  Colt McCoy comes to mind--not sure who he developed. 

 

NFL has always been a place where  drug users, PED abusers, wife and child beaters, heavy drinkers/DUI'ers with any talent can find a spot on a roster.  "Non-mentor" is probably further down on the list of exclusion criteria.

 

 

[Chicken Boo]

7 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

Kurt would be a great QB coach.

[billsbackto81]

7 hours ago, GolfandBills said:

Probably should be… beat us the last two games 

He won't have Levi to pick on anymore. Pretty much beat us throwing to ANYONE Levi was covering. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I never thought that Tannehill was Aaron Rodgers Junior 

 

 

[klos63]

8 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Kurt knew Eli Manning was there to take his job and did a masterful job trying to help Eli. He did the same thing with Matt Leinart in Arizona. How he handled the Eli situation is what got him another chance in the first place. So he certainly backed it up when he was playing.  

ah yes, the great Matt Leinart experiment.  And Eli probably had nobody around the house to help him learn to be a good QB. I like Warner, but come on.

[Mr. WEO]

31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

lol, not that's rich....

[Punching Bag]

7 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

Fair, I guess I was referencing that I wouldn’t be concerned if I were a Titans fan. I don’t think that loss is going to be catastrophic for Tannehill. I expect to see the same player. If people view his comments as a sign of mental weakness, it’s the same Tannehill who’s been in the league for a decade. I’d be more concerned if this were an elite QB who said these things. I think this is a preexisting part of Tannehill’s personality’s. He’s probably always been an emotional player. Obviously just my two cents, I don’t know the guy. 

 

He needs to incorporate like other players have to fuel his off-season and season.

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

lol, not that's rich....

Easy to win when you're the only guy at a ladies only party that you host. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Cryin’ Ryan..

[stinky finger]

5 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

 It is a total b¡tçh, cashin' those game checks....

 

I hear you - but I’ll assume he’s a competitor. Maybe I’m wrong?

[Bferra13]

I just really don't like this guy so don't take offense if I downvote your replies in sticking up for him. Something about him is very unlikeable. This is another notch in the belt.

[AlfaBill]

13 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

This has been going on for years when Steve Young and Joe Montana didn’t get along. The thing about the NFL is there is no passing the torch it’s like another line of work that person is coming to take your job and your livelihood away. 

But it’s Ryan Tannehill I’m guessing the Titans would trade him if someone would take his contract and that’s not likely 

Wrong. Montana and Young were good friends and respectful teammates. 

[Cray51]

11 hours ago, Billl said:

I’m curious how many people burying RT over this would be cool with it if their employer brought in some new employee and said “we’re paying this guy a fraction of what you make, and we need you to train him so that we can fire you and give him your job”.

Thats giving me a red delicious and a granny smith and telling me they taste the same.

 

1) If I have had several years of my team "under-performing" even if Ive been at level or average at my job, I can EXPECT they bring someone in to challenge me.

2) Tanny is 33.  Most starting QBs are done by what... 35?  So if I'm 60 planning to retire at 65 you bet I'm expected to train someone/take them under my wing

3) Companies bring interns and entry level hires all the time to fill roles with the expectation of growth.  So if you want to compare it to the corporate world... again training is an expectation.

4) No one is asking Tanny to give up reps with the first team and saying "no coach, let Malik take these snaps because he is the future".  But are they wanting him to help Willis in the film room, or maybe with  some of the transitional aspects from college to the NFL?  Absolutely.  Just like I would coach a new hire about our company specific policies or maybe point them in the right direction when a small project or ask is put in front of them for the first time.

5) "We're paying this guy a fraction of what you make"  You are ***** right they are - because I've been around the block and Ive earned more pay.  Tanny makes starter money because he is the starter.  He doesnt make elite money because he ISNT ELITE.  If the expectation is that Tanny want to secure a role where there are no questions about the short term starting role, be better.  But, at 33, he should be looking to take the next natural step - platoon starter who will train the new talent and he can make 15-20 million a year for another 5-7 years.

 

I could go on but you get the point

[Thurman#1]

13 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

 

Love that!! Way to go, Kurt!!

[Dopey]

13 hours ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said:

Dont think ive ever heard this incredibly apt nickname before. nice work 

 

It's been used before, on TBD.

56 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

I just really don't like this guy so don't take offense if I downvote your replies in sticking up for him. Something about him is very unlikeable. This is another notch in the belt.

Guessing you don't know him, yet you don't like him. OK. Got it. If it makes you feel better, down vote. I guess.

[Thurman#1]

21 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

Wrong. Montana and Young were good friends and respectful teammates. 

 

 

Tannehill didn't say he wasn't going to be a respectful teammate to the rookie.

 

And Montana and Young may be friends now, but they weren't at that time.

 

Q:  "What was your relationship like with Steve Young?"

 

Joe Montana:  “You ever had anybody try to take your job? (Laughs, applause ensues). It’s a team game but it all starts with individual efforts. So my job with Steve was basically to make sure he stayed behind me. The game is not the same when you stand on the sideline with your uniform on. After you experience that, you don’t want to be anywhere else. We had a working relationship. But it was one of those things where I didn’t care if it was Steve Young, Steve Bono, Steve DeBerg — I had a whole bunch of Steves — it didn’t matter who it was for me. It was my job that I felt I had to make sure they stayed over there watching me as long as possible. But it’s a competitive relationship. … I didn’t feel bad for him.”

 

https://www.mercurynews.com/2013/10/26/joe-montana-speaks-out-on-49ers-move-steve-young/

Edited May 5, 2022 by Thurman#1

[AlfaBill]

3 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Tannehill didn't say he wasn't going to be a respectful teammate to the rookie.

 

And Montana and Young may be friends now, but they weren't at that time.

 

Q:  "What was your relationship like with Steve Young?"

 

Joe Montana:  “You ever had anybody try to take your job? (Laughs, applause ensues). It’s a team game but it all starts with individual efforts. So my job with Steve was basically to make sure he stayed behind me. The game is not the same when you stand on the sideline with your uniform on. After you experience that, you don’t want to be anywhere else. We had a working relationship. But it was one of those things where I didn’t care if it was Steve Young, Steve Bono, Steve DeBerg — I had a whole bunch of Steves — it didn’t matter who it was for me. It was my job that I felt I had to make sure they stayed over there watching me as long as possible. But it’s a competitive relationship. … I didn’t feel bad for him.”

 

https://www.mercurynews.com/2013/10/26/joe-montana-speaks-out-on-49ers-move-steve-young/

What’s your point? Joe had Steve at his house for thanksgiving when Steve was alone. Yea they competed fiercely for the starting job but there was a respect there. Your post stated that they didn’t get along. Big difference 

[Thurman#1]

18 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

Thats giving me a red delicious and a granny smith and telling me they taste the same.

 

1) If I have had several years of my team "under-performing" even if Ive been at level or average at my job, I can EXPECT they bring someone in to challenge me.

2) Tanny is 33.  Most starting QBs are done by what... 35?  So if I'm 60 planning to retire at 65 you bet I'm expected to train someone/take them under my wing

3) Companies bring interns and entry level hires all the time to fill roles with the expectation of growth.  So if you want to compare it to the corporate world... again training is an expectation.

4) No one is asking Tanny to give up reps with the first team and saying "no coach, let Malik take these snaps because he is the future".  But are they wanting him to help Willis in the film room, or maybe with  some of the transitional aspects from college to the NFL?  Absolutely.  Just like I would coach a new hire about our company specific policies or maybe point them in the right direction when a small project or ask is put in front of them for the first time.

5) "We're paying this guy a fraction of what you make"  You are ***** right they are - because I've been around the block and Ive earned more pay.  Tanny makes starter money because he is the starter.  He doesnt make elite money because he ISNT ELITE.  If the expectation is that Tanny want to secure a role where there are no questions about the short term starting role, be better.  But, at 33, he should be looking to take the next natural step - platoon starter who will train the new talent and he can make 15-20 million a year for another 5-7 years.

 

I could go on but you get the point

 

 

Training may be an expectation in the corporate world, but it's very often an unfulfilled expectation in situations where the young guy is training to take the only job available away from the guy in that job currently.

 

2 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

What’s your point? Joe had Steve at his house for thanksgiving when Steve was alone. Yea they competed fiercely for the starting job but there was a respect there. Your post stated that they didn’t get along. Big difference 

 

 

It wasn't my post you're talking about there.

 

But has Tannehill somewhere said he won't invite Willis to Thanksgiving? Or did he just say it wasn't his job to mentor him?

 

What's my point? I think I made it. If you're still unsure, feel free to re-read.

 

Edited May 5, 2022 by Thurman#1

[NoSaint]

14 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

This has been going on for years when Steve Young and Joe Montana didn’t get along. The thing about the NFL is there is no passing the torch it’s like another line of work that person is coming to take your job and your livelihood away. 

But it’s Ryan Tannehill I’m guessing the Titans would trade him if someone would take his contract and that’s not likely 

I’d be a lot happier with “my job is to make the Titans the best team in the league. I’ll help anyone on this team be their absolute best self - including Malik- but I’m sure as hell going to make sure I’m my best self too and earn my job every snap, every practice and every game.”

[AlfaBill]

4 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Training may be an expectation in the corporate world, but it's very often an unfulfilled expectation in situations where the young guy is training to take the only job available away from the guy in that job currently.

 

 

 

It wasn't my post you're talking about there.

 

But has Tannehill somewhere said he won't invite Willis to Thanksgiving? Or did he just say it wasn't his job to mentor him?

 

What's my point? I think I made it. If you're still unsure, feel free to re-read.

 

I thought you were the poster whom I had answered. In that post it was said that they don’t get along, I was simply saying that it wasn’t true. And knowing Tanny and his biatch face, he won’t have him over for thanksgiving

[stuvian]

Tannehill can't get it done on or off the field

[EasternOHBillsFan]

8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

Training may be an expectation in the corporate world, but it's very often an unfulfilled expectation in situations where the young guy is training to take the only job available away from the guy in that job currently.

 

 

It's performance based... and Tannehill isn't performing up to a high standard. It's REAL simple... PERFORM TO THE STANDARD and you won't lose your job.

 

His attitude is definitely going to give him an even LOWER chance at being retained... so yeah Tannehill, DO YOUR JOB and then you won't have to be replaced.

[stinky finger]

10 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

If he is fixated on what he can't control, and is not a 'Team' kinda guy, that is likely a big distraction to his so called 'competitiveness'. Considering how he stunk up the joint in Miami, he should be grateful that he is playing within a system that has worked pretty well for him.

 
I agree with this. My point is, he knows his grasp on this job is slipping.

[Mr. WEO]

9 hours ago, AlfaBill said:

What’s your point? Joe had Steve at his house for thanksgiving when Steve was alone. Yea they competed fiercely for the starting job but there was a respect there. Your post stated that they didn’t get along. Big difference 

 

Montana clearly stated his job was to keep Young or anyone else "behind him", the opposite of "mentoring".

 

What's the hard part here?

[78thealltimegreat]

10 hours ago, AlfaBill said:

Wrong. Montana and Young were good friends and respectful teammates. 

Right and so was Brett Farve and Aaron Rogers 

[78thealltimegreat]

9 hours ago, NoSaint said:

I’d be a lot happier with “my job is to make the Titans the best team in the league. I’ll help anyone on this team be their absolute best self - including Malik- but I’m sure as hell going to make sure I’m my best self too and earn my job every snap, every practice and every game.”

NFL is like any other business they brought in a guy to take his job and he’s upset about it. 

[Buffalo716]

11 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Love that!! Way to go, Kurt!!

Kurt isn't playing in the league... 

 

And his backup isn't trying to take his job

[wppete]

What’s he concerned about a 3rd round draft pick for? 

[BuffaloBill]

On 5/4/2022 at 8:52 AM, mikemac2001 said:

Dude didn’t show up for the voluntary workouts that’s a red flag for a leader - if Josh didn’t show up it would be like wtf 

 

and he was renovating his house who cares do it some other time 

 

 

Yep, not like he is doing a DIY project.