MAJBobby Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Not true some OTs just play too upright and can't play OG and get beat by DTs with lower center of gravities can rush around them for easy sacks. etc. and hence my comment MOST. But he plays IOL as well so yeah can kick inside. likely is like Doyle the 6th OL when go short packages and should help considering the Bill sucked at picking up short yardage plays unless it was Josh. Edited April 21, 2022 by MAJBobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said: I love that Bills sign guys with tons of experience and have them all battle it out in camp, but I'd love a few studs on the O line. Dawkins/Morse are solid- above average, the rest. Meh, hope they do alright Dawkins and Morse are very good. Not elite / top 3 at their position, but likely in the next tier. Saffold is a proven vet who's, at worst, a solid OG. Bates and Brown both have a lot of potential.. especially Spencer Brown. I think Brown could be that stud, developed with the help of Kromer. I do get the concern in betting on unproven potential on the right side though.. Wouldn't hate taking OL high in the draft. Quessenberry, Doyle, Ford & Boettger is ok depth, but the OL is heavy betting on a healthy Saffold being better in pass pro and the right side of our OL making a jump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Just now, Mr. WEO said: The Titans clearly believe their RB, not their Tackles, are the key to their running success. This is overwhelmingly likely. No doubt having a difference maker RB will get you 1500 yars rushing or whatever......but we are gonna see whether or not OL that run block well is going to hurt his numbers this year because the OL got broken up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Watkins101 said: Sounds like he could be used in 6 man OL sets, like we used Doyle last year. Yep I was just typing the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: We didn't take their RB... Because we all know that a great running back is the key to a great run game….. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 Look. Kromer likely had a lot of say here. So yep I am on board with it. Kromer actually made John Miller viable. sad thing is Bills still looking for a position that likely would have been filled with Teller. But I will take that trade as the pick helped get Diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: This one's for @teef... Super Bowl!!! you needed to be more insulting to the other members as part of it...but you have the spirit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Why did the Titans let him go? Highly unlikely he was breaking the bank there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Didn't know he was still pitching: 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Look. Kromer likely had a lot of say here. So yep I am on board with it. Kromer actually made John Miller viable. sad thing is Bills still looking for a position that likely would have been filled with Teller. But I will take that trade as the pick helped get Diggs. Teller is down the street my friend we gotta move on sometime 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Look. Kromer likely had a lot of say here. So yep I am on board with it. Kromer actually made John Miller viable. sad thing is Bills still looking for a position that likely would have been filled with Teller. But I will take that trade as the pick helped get Diggs. Hasn't Teller been meh in pass pro though? Dude is a mauler in the run game, but would he ever been as good here, with our offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The Titans clearly believe their RB, not their Tackles, are the key to their running success. This is overwhelmingly likely. Which is why I'm sure their running game didn't miss a beat without Henry... Edited April 21, 2022 by SWATeam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Teller is down the street my friend we gotta move on sometime I was fine with the trade. Still am he has flaws as well. Just stating we have brought vet after vet trying to get a long term answer there since moving him. Hopefully Bates is that answer. 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Hasn't Teller been meh in pass pro though? Dude is a mauler in the run game, but would he ever been as good here, with our offense? He isn’t the greatest but is improving. End of day I am still fine with the trade. But it is one of those things. The position has been a rotating door since he was moved. Hopefully Bates now is the full time starter and that OG spot locked down now that it looks like Bills finally will start him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: I love that Bills sign guys with tons of experience and have them all battle it out in camp, but I'd love a few studs on the O line. Dawkins/Morse are solid- above average, the rest. Meh, hope they do alright Bates looked more then Meh in his short stint late in the year. So if he keeps trending upward, there is your stud at RG. And in general there are just not a lot of very good to great stud O lineman types playing in the NFL these days. Try finding John Hannah. I believe he is still living. And so is Anthony Munoz. Maybe they would love one last shot at a ring. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Another classic Beane signing. I'd bet that we're gonna love this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: How do you get a 80 in PFF buit give up 11 sacks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Didn't know he was still pitching: first thing I thought of too!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Some new pieces on the OL that can challenge for starting positions is good. Let them battle it out in training camp and see who rises to the top of the heap. Love the Saffold pickup. This one, don't know if he will be a starter, but it's always good to have more competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Better depth than Cody Ford for sure, plus he can play a few positions. Nice signing. Now let’s get a vet Cb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 2021 OL at end of Season (By Cap Hit) Dawkins Morse Williams Feliciano Ford Brown Bates Doyle Hart 2022 OL right now (By Cap Hit) Dawkins Morse Saffold Ford Bates Brown Mancz Boettger Hart Doyle Capra Quessenberry (no cap hit in Spotrac yet) My Projected Starters LT - Dawkins LG - Saffold C - Morse RG - Bates RT - Brown With the rest battling for 3/4 spots. I think this signing does signal Dueces to Ford now IMO is on the outside looking in going into Camp 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I imagine the line will be improved but still have its fair share of struggles over the course of the season… just gotta hope Josh can keep masking those issues. I am hoping for a Starting OL to be in place week 1. Not having to constantly tinker with it until week 10 like previous years. Get some continuity Edited April 21, 2022 by MAJBobby 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: We didn't take their RB... A prelude to pick 25?🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: A prelude to pick 25?🤔 lol, I'm sure they have their opinion on RB at 25 well before they picked up this guy on a 1 Year Special. But RB certainly possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: He's 31 but only played 4 seasons....is that right? What else did he do? It’s actually a great story, he fought cancer and won. I’m sure every year, every day, is a special day for him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 McBeane is giving Kromer something to work with. Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: How do you get a 80 in PFF buit give up 11 sacks Agree. That's insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Philo said: At the very least, I'd think he'd be an upgrade over Hart as depth. Either way, I'm hoping Doyle takes a step forward this year. I want him to spend time working out with TEs (TE University). A jumbo TE who can block is good resource. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDeerInTheHeadlights Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Much props to this gentleman for winning the most important fight of his life. We lacked (and still do) numbers along the OL and his versatility is a much coveted asset by this regime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Boom. Love this signing. OT just got a little stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Seems like a good signing. Insurance policy if Brown regresses or they can not find an OT/OG they like in the draft. Likely will end Ford's career in Buffalo. If they can afford it I would keep Ford at least to the end of camp and see what he does with Kromer. But in the end he looks like a bust. Maybe they can get a 6th or 7rth round pick if he looks adequate in training camp/pre-season game. With this signing, I still think they may take an OL in the top four rounds but now I'm thinking they take four of these 5 positions - CB first round and then in no particular order - WR, LB, S, NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: I love that Bills sign guys with tons of experience and have them all battle it out in camp, but I'd love a few studs on the O line. Dawkins/Morse are solid- above average, the rest. Meh, hope they do alright I Hear You. I'm also seeing a theme here, where it seems as though we're picking up FA OL who are notable run-blockers and counting on what? The RB? The TE? Josh's feet? for pass protection. Although to be fair, a legitimate fear of the run game will improve the pass protection as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Nothing against this guy, but hope he doesn't see the field. Hopefully Brown and Doyle are better and healthier. Still would take an OG/OT hybrid very early in draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc said: An 80 grade by PFF but he gave up 11 sacks? Tanny holding ball too long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Rooting for him. It's unreal he's coming back after what he's been though. Cancer and treatments do unreal things to your body. The fact that he recovered his strenght at a pro athlete level after going through that is unreal. I know first-hand. Well, not the pro-athlete part, but the treatment part. 😃 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I Hear You. I'm also seeing a theme here, where it seems as though we're picking up FA OL who are notable run-blockers and counting on what? The RB? The TE? Josh's feet? for pass protection. Although to be fair, a legitimate fear of the run game will improve the pass protection as well. the last point often gets overlooked. If there is a legit run game and fear of it, the WRs will get open quicker, allowing Josh to get rid of the ball faster. Plus, some of the OL come from run-centric offenses. Perhaps Queensberry is a good pass blocker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said: He's 31 but only played 4 seasons....is that right? What else did he do? I believe he is a cancer survivor who took a few years off to beat it. Great to see! Whisking him the best… Can he also play guard? Position flexibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 He's a backup at best, but still better than either Bates or Brown. Still, we need big upgrades at RG and RT. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, GreggTX said: He's a backup at best, but still better than either Bates or Brown. Still, we need big upgrades at RG and RT. Why are people continuing to beat the bates horse..... They guy has done NOTHING but play well 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, GreggTX said: He's a backup at best, but still better than either Bates or Brown. Still, we need big upgrades at RG and RT. But, but...PFF said he's great?!! Are you saying that they are not the bible of football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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