Dablitzkrieg Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 What am I missing here? He's that good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 The Browns can kick rocks with all these guaranteed deals 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Haslem and his wife are going to get crucified at the next owner’s meeting. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Overpay. He is good. He isn't a top 6 or 7 corner though. More like in that 8-15 range. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Crazy guaranteed money but Denzel is a great player and think he has some great years ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Is he an adult? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 He is good but not that good. Browns is a dumpster fire of a franchise 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Browns kinda backed themselves into a corner on this one. With the bad PR signing of Watson, they had to ink one of their homegrown players. Good for Ward for bending Haslam over and getting paid. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Even an average cornerback is worth big money in today's NFL. We were lucky to extend Tre at a somewhat reasonable price. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I already saw this movie about a Cleveland sports team trying to be horrible so they can move. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Seems like a lot of money for a guy who I’d argue isn’t even a top 5 CB. I’d put him somewhere in the 7-10 range. Cleveland really throwing around the guaranteed money this offseason! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Rachel Bush is pissed. 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, Virgil said: The Browns can kick rocks with all these guaranteed deals jags too. they are among the worst franchises in the league, even the jets are getting their ***** together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: jags too. they are among the worst franchises in the league, even the jets are getting their ***** together. Not so sure about the Jets… 😂 https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/posts/jets-turned-down-free-agents-nfl-insider-01g0chdsaecx Quote The Athletic's Mike Sando has reported that an NFL executive told him that the Jets "were in on a ton of guys and got nobody," which certainly lines up with what happened regarding wide receiver Tyreek Hill. The Pro Bowler chose to be traded to the Miami Dolphins instead of the Jets a few weeks ago. "They don’t have a selling point to players right now. People don’t know what to think of Zach Wilson, players don’t necessarily covet playing in that market, and guys who have choices tend to wind up elsewhere." Sounds like they’ve gone after pretty much all the top guys but got rejected by everyone. i guess reportedly woody Johnson is starting to get impatient. They said his brother Chris had a lot more patience but now that Woody’s back he’s already losing his patience with the slow rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 He reset the CB market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Haslams did just recently sell there Pilot's to Casey's for a cool 220 million back in Sept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Just now, BillsFan4 said: Not so sure about the Jets… 😂 https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/posts/jets-turned-down-free-agents-nfl-insider-01g0chdsaecx Sounds like they’ve gone after pretty much all the top guys but got rejected by everyone. i guess reportedly woody Johnson is starting to get impatient. They said his brother Chris had a lot more patience but now that Woody’s back he’s already losing his patience with the slow rebuild. i think they are trying to go about doing things the right way though. stocking up on draft picks and trying to build a culture. like the bills back in the bad days, FAs are turning them down, but i dont think their GM and HC were bad hires at all. i respect their staff more than i do miamis and new englands personally. its just tough for them to get FAs because they are still early in their process and have not established the credibility like JA17, McD, and Beane. I wouldnt be surprised if in 2-4 years though that they overtake the cheats and fish in the division. zach is better than their other QBs, and they have the draft capital and cap space to make things happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Couldn't you argue this is a good thing somehow, in terms of finding more value players? Teams are still going to only be able to pay x% to the position group. It doesn't reset the market as much as move the money to the top guys, which means more prove it one/two year deals for the rest. Is that the right type of thinking, or somewhere along the lines of losing to an NFC team boosts your playoff chances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He reset the CB market. Jaylen Ramsey already did that. Ward is easily a top 10 CB so he’s worth the contract he just got. The guarantees reported are almost certainly money included in “total guarantees” not money that is “guaranteed at signing”. Agents often report their clients’ contract guarantees that way as a marketing tool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 JC Jackson needs to fire his agent 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Process said: JC Jackson needs to fire his agent Basically Jalen Ramsey said the same thing on The Pivot Podcast. He said Jackson should’ve gotten more than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Basically Jalen Ramsey said the same thing on The Pivot Podcast. He said Jackson should’ve gotten more than him. $31M less guaranteed than Ward. Less per year than other guys like White who signed years ago. Horrendous deal for the top CB on the open market. Edited April 18, 2022 by Process 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: i think they are trying to go about doing things the right way though. stocking up on draft picks and trying to build a culture. like the bills back in the bad days, FAs are turning them down, but i dont think their GM and HC were bad hires at all. i respect their staff more than i do miamis and new englands personally. its just tough for them to get FAs because they are still early in their process and have not established the credibility like JA17, McD, and Beane. I wouldnt be surprised if in 2-4 years though that they overtake the cheats and fish in the division. zach is better than their other QBs, and they have the draft capital and cap space to make things happen. Build a culture? Have you seen their QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 4 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Haslem and his wife are going to get crucified at the next owner’s meeting. I wish the Browns would just stick to screwing up the Browns. That seem like a full time job for them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Stoooopid money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 At the rate the Browns are going, they're going to have five guys on their team. That's all they'll have money for under the salary cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 I saw the news break and was like, uhh... 🤔 😬 Oh yeah, it's Cleveland. Can they pay anyone besides Watson and Ward now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 7 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: i think they are trying to go about doing things the right way though. stocking up on draft picks and trying to build a culture. like the bills back in the bad days, FAs are turning them down, but i dont think their GM and HC were bad hires at all. i respect their staff more than i do miamis and new englands personally. its just tough for them to get FAs because they are still early in their process and have not established the credibility like JA17, McD, and Beane. I wouldnt be surprised if in 2-4 years though that they overtake the cheats and fish in the division. zach is better than their other QBs, and they have the draft capital and cap space to make things happen. Agree with all of this. Miami has done like a half rebuild then went full Rex Ryan with all these splash moves and weird contracts. They could be in cap hell at some point soon and they don’t even have a QB. Similar to the Bills of old NE will be in QB purgatory with McCorkle. He’s better than we Give him credit for, but he’s close to Dalton than Brady if they hit in Wilson (big of right now) they will have a decent shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 8 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Browns kinda backed themselves into a CORNER on this one. *elbowing you and raising my eyebrows 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 This is so Browns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 He’s not even top 10 lol. Browns gonna be in salary cap hell forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Ohhh the Browns. At least Pegulas learned their Wrex mistake and hired our guys. Next time people witch about McD or Beane, read this one. We have incredible guys and want to see them around here for a decade or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 10 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Overpay. He is good. He isn't a top 6 or 7 corner though. More like in that 8-15 range. I'm curious, where would you place Tre? Before his injury ofc since we have yet to see him play after the injury occurred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 51 minutes ago, Gambit said: I'm curious, where would you place Tre? Before his injury ofc since we have yet to see him play after the injury occurred. Top 3 or 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 11 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Overpay. He is good. He isn't a top 6 or 7 corner though. More like in that 8-15 range. Who is your top 7 then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, cle23 said: Who is your top 7 then? Ramsey Slay White Alexander Lattimore Howard Humphrey That is my top 7. I have Ward in that next group with AJ Terrell and JC Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 19 hours ago, LeGOATski said: This is so Browns. The most yards any WR had against Ward last year was 50, and that's Davante Adams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Inflationary pressure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 So that's why a Slurpee is now $19.95 at Flying J from noon until 3 p.m. 🤔 (medium, bring your own cup. $29.95 during regular hours.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 He is such a great story. Never left Ohio. Drafted 4th overall and lived up to it in his hometown, which is a ton of pressure. He’s a really good kid and deserves the bag, as we know its a premium position and he’s the latest to be paid so he’s going to the top of the pile, doesn’t matter whether he’s the best in the league or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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