newcam2012 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Tipster19 said: It doesn’t matter how but before the season begins I would really like to see the Bills acquire a tough guy, an enforcer of some sort on defense. Jerry Hughes was almost that guy a couple of years back but he mellowed out a bit in the last couple of years. He committed too many costly penalties before and now he isn’t even on the team as of right now. Not to pound a tired drum but the position that would be the best to have a tough guy at would be the MLB. As we all have realized for quite some time is Edmunds is not that guy. Even if it isn’t at that position I would still like to see that type of player somewheres on the defense. Our most physical players on the team right now imo is our Tackles. Dawkins and Brown will take care of Josh but we don’t have a very physical defense and I think that could be the missing aspect for this team to get to the next level. Last night I was thinking of Jack Lambert against the Cowboys when one of their guys were messing with the Steelers’ PK and Lambert just slammed the guy to the ground. THAT’S the kind of mentality that I would like for the Bills’ to possess. I wonder if there’s that kind of player in the draft that we could get. They have Edmunds. Isn't he a great thumper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 The players you speak of no longer exist in todays NFL because they are not allowed to be that way those players will always be in a different era the only player today that may come close is TJ Watt . But seeing as the Bills got Jordan Phillips back if he can be the player he was the last year he played for the Bills 9.5 sacks & the pressure he put on opposing teams that would be good enough for me because seeing the need for Miller to be accounted for and don't forget Ed this unit could be exactly what you are looking for ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 this ain't old school hockey.....an "enforcer" isn't needed..... try a VOCAL natural leader who is extremely talented and smart.....enter Von Miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Tipster19 said: It doesn’t matter how but before the season begins I would really like to see the Bills acquire a tough guy, an enforcer of some sort on defense. Jerry Hughes was almost that guy a couple of years back but he mellowed out a bit in the last couple of years. He committed too many costly penalties before and now he isn’t even on the team as of right now. Not to pound a tired drum but the position that would be the best to have a tough guy at would be the MLB. As we all have realized for quite some time is Edmunds is not that guy. Even if it isn’t at that position I would still like to see that type of player somewheres on the defense. Our most physical players on the team right now imo is our Tackles. Dawkins and Brown will take care of Josh but we don’t have a very physical defense and I think that could be the missing aspect for this team to get to the next level. Last night I was thinking of Jack Lambert against the Cowboys when one of their guys were messing with the Steelers’ PK and Lambert just slammed the guy to the ground. THAT’S the kind of mentality that I would like for the Bills’ to possess. I wonder if there’s that kind of player in the draft that we could get. This a creative way to start another Edmunds rant. "We need a guy like Jerry Hughes who had a lot of costly penalties." Way to sell your point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Enforcers are player types you find on a hockey team. There are no enforcers on football teams. Just game changing abilities IMO.. like Von Miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) I don’t think Charles Oakley or Lambeer will be returning to competitive sports anytime soon. I think we’re out of luck. Maybe Rodman when he’s not on a LV bender or cozying up to North Korea? I really don’t think he’s a process guy though. Edited April 5, 2022 by HamSandwhich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 We haven't been the same team since Lucic ran Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 hours ago, bmur66 said: There it is. The D definetely lost some "juice" when both of these guys departed. They are both spark plugs and I recall Shaq was primed to take that "enforcer" role. Don't forget the loss of Kyle Williams and Lorenzo Alexander. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Definitely can use a more physical player or 2 on D that will consistently hit hard. I still have hope that Siran Neal can be 1 of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Where is that office linebacker dude when you need him 11 hours ago, Tipster19 said: It doesn’t matter how but before the season begins I would really like to see the Bills acquire a tough guy, an enforcer of some sort on defense. Jerry Hughes was almost that guy a couple of years back but he mellowed out a bit in the last couple of years. He committed too many costly penalties before and now he isn’t even on the team as of right now. Not to pound a tired drum but the position that would be the best to have a tough guy at would be the MLB. As we all have realized for quite some time is Edmunds is not that guy. Even if it isn’t at that position I would still like to see that type of player somewheres on the defense. Our most physical players on the team right now imo is our Tackles. Dawkins and Brown will take care of Josh but we don’t have a very physical defense and I think that could be the missing aspect for this team to get to the next level. Last night I was thinking of Jack Lambert against the Cowboys when one of their guys were messing with the Steelers’ PK and Lambert just slammed the guy to the ground. THAT’S the kind of mentality that I would like for the Bills’ to possess. I wonder if there’s that kind of player in the draft that we could get. I'm not even sure what's meant by "enforcer" Do you mean someone who demands accountability from his teammates? Or do you mean someone who does dirty to opponents (at the risk of costly personal fouls)? I'm not sure what you mean. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: Shaq and Jordan are already back on the team. Edited April 5, 2022 by Warcodered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 i'm sure bill romanoski would still be willing to punch someone in the face if you asked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 In a league where the rules are setup to help create offense this is the last thing you need. Penalties kill teams and keep opposing offenses on the field. We need to accept the game has moved on come up with more innovative solutions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Martin Biron. A psychological warfare pick. * Doo meenoots ov MarDEE dalging, an dee udder deem be lahk "wad dee fug iz diz guy zaying?! Tabarnak!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Only thing the Bills need is a coach that doesn't choke in the moment Well and a MLB that makes plays would be nice but for this year I just want McD to not choke. He was so much better last year right up until it really mattered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 hours ago, HamSandwhich said: I don’t think Charles Oakley or Lambeer will be returning to competitive sports anytime soon. I think we’re out of luck. Maybe Rodman when he’s not on a LV bender or cozying up to North Korea? I really don’t think he’s a process guy though. Maybe Rob Ray? He's already in Buffalo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tipster19 Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm not even sure what's meant by "enforcer" Do you mean someone who demands accountability from his teammates? Or do you mean someone who does dirty to opponents (at the risk of costly personal fouls)? I'm not sure what you mean. Fair question. I misspoke when I said enforcer. It would be nice to see a player(s) bring more physicality to the defense, someone like Devon White from the Bucs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HamptonBillsfan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 14 hours ago, Tipster19 said: It doesn’t matter how but before the season begins I would really like to see the Bills acquire a tough guy, an enforcer of some sort on defense. Jerry Hughes was almost that guy a couple of years back but he mellowed out a bit in the last couple of years. He committed too many costly penalties before and now he isn’t even on the team as of right now. Not to pound a tired drum but the position that would be the best to have a tough guy at would be the MLB. As we all have realized for quite some time is Edmunds is not that guy. Even if it isn’t at that position I would still like to see that type of player somewheres on the defense. Our most physical players on the team right now imo is our Tackles. Dawkins and Brown will take care of Josh but we don’t have a very physical defense and I think that could be the missing aspect for this team to get to the next level. Last night I was thinking of Jack Lambert against the Cowboys when one of their guys were messing with the Steelers’ PK and Lambert just slammed the guy to the ground. THAT’S the kind of mentality that I would like for the Bills’ to possess. I wonder if there’s that kind of player in the draft that we could get. The enforcer will come from within. Oliver, a rejuvenated Phillips or maybe even Von. When he got healthy last year in the playoffs, that d-line caught fire and played their best football. He will provide the leadership for our underachieving edge rushers,(Epenesa. Lawson Rousseau etc). Don't be surprised to see a highly motivated Edmunds in his walk year. He knows he needs to be better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Not sure about an "enforcer", but they do need another versatile LB. Edmunds is UFA in '23 and they're already well over the league average for LB$. Also no depth to speak of. Their pre-draft LB meetings so far are an interesting group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 15 hours ago, Tipster19 said: It doesn’t matter how but before the season begins I would really like to see the Bills acquire a tough guy, an enforcer of some sort on defense. Jerry Hughes was almost that guy a couple of years back but he mellowed out a bit in the last couple of years. He committed too many costly penalties before and now he isn’t even on the team as of right now. Not to pound a tired drum but the position that would be the best to have a tough guy at would be the MLB. As we all have realized for quite some time is Edmunds is not that guy. Even if it isn’t at that position I would still like to see that type of player somewheres on the defense. Our most physical players on the team right now imo is our Tackles. Dawkins and Brown will take care of Josh but we don’t have a very physical defense and I think that could be the missing aspect for this team to get to the next level. Last night I was thinking of Jack Lambert against the Cowboys when one of their guys were messing with the Steelers’ PK and Lambert just slammed the guy to the ground. THAT’S the kind of mentality that I would like for the Bills’ to possess. I wonder if there’s that kind of player in the draft that we could get. For being an ole timer here, you don’t post much. Thank you for that. 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 This is THE ONLY guy Beane has no 1 year contract for?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 This feels like just another "Tremaine Edmunds sucks" thread. We get it. Lots of fans don't like having a Middle Linebacker who isn't a physical run-stuffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Build a bully? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 One of my favorite plays last year was when Poyer smacked Kelce in the 1st KC game. That 15-yard penalty was well worth it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 https://youtu.be/RzToNo7A-94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Since the OP stated he wanted a guy who retired 40 years ago I am going to assume he can't name a guy who currently fits the idea he wants. The NFL is ruled by ultra elite athletes now and simply being tough is a side benefit, not something they care about. The Ronnie Lott's of the world are gone from the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Since the OP stated he wanted a guy who retired 40 years ago I am going to assume he can't name a guy who currently fits the idea he wants. The NFL is ruled by ultra elite athletes now and simply being tough is a side benefit, not something they care about. The Ronnie Lott's of the world are gone from the NFL. Chris Jones was a thug on the field 2 years ago in the AFC Championship game, just ask Mongo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wyobills89 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I would love it if Chad muma somehow ends up on the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Playoffs? said: Build a bully? Do you see anything wrong with that sentiment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I understand the sentiment, but Ray Lewis isn’t available … maybe Stu Grimson or Tony Twist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: This is THE ONLY guy Beane has no 1 year contract for?? Romanowski! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: Romanowski! yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Since the OP stated he wanted a guy who retired 40 years ago I am going to assume he can't name a guy who currently fits the idea he wants. The NFL is ruled by ultra elite athletes now and simply being tough is a side benefit, not something they care about. The Ronnie Lott's of the world are gone from the NFL. You must have missed when I said Devon White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: You must have missed when I said Devon White. I did miss that- you made a popular post apparently😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 21 hours ago, Tipster19 said: It doesn’t matter how but before the season begins I would really like to see the Bills acquire a tough guy, an enforcer of some sort on defense. Jerry Hughes was almost that guy a couple of years back but he mellowed out a bit in the last couple of years. He committed too many costly penalties before and now he isn’t even on the team as of right now. Not to pound a tired drum but the position that would be the best to have a tough guy at would be the MLB. As we all have realized for quite some time is Edmunds is not that guy. Even if it isn’t at that position I would still like to see that type of player somewheres on the defense. Our most physical players on the team right now imo is our Tackles. Dawkins and Brown will take care of Josh but we don’t have a very physical defense and I think that could be the missing aspect for this team to get to the next level. Last night I was thinking of Jack Lambert against the Cowboys when one of their guys were messing with the Steelers’ PK and Lambert just slammed the guy to the ground. THAT’S the kind of mentality that I would like for the Bills’ to possess. I wonder if there’s that kind of player in the draft that we could get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’m intrigued about trading up for Thibodeaux if he starts to slide. He can learn from Von and we’d have an excellent rotation I watched his YouTube highlights, and damn if dude doesn't bring the nasty....Jesus he's a beast....but I won't allow myself to even dream of Thibodeaux, as I don't imagine him falling past pick 5, and we don't have the real estate to make a jump like that....plus I don't think McDermott would go after him for some reason. Edited April 6, 2022 by smuvtalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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