finn Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 56 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: It doesnt scare me lol Look who would be throwing him the ball Huuuuuge drop off in QB talent Really? I've been thinking lately that Mahomes is overrated, which isn't hard since all NFL commentators (no exceptions) thinks he's God level. Even now, it's always Mahomes first, Allen second. The chief argument, so to speak, is that he has Hill and Kelce, who make plays for him. The Bills receivers, by contrast, tend to catch the ball and get tackled, as our lowest RAC stats show. Not saying Mahomes isn't terrific, but I don't think he's any better than Burrows or Herbert. And I really don't think he is at Allen's level. My point: Replace Hill with Ju Ju, and you'll see all Mahomes' performance metrics dropping significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, ExWNYer said: If this happens, the team that should really be nervous in the AFC East is NE*. Exactly Jets or dolphins lol please join one of those teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 One really crazy offseason. The NFL collective have lost their collective minds. Exhibit 1: 230M fully guaranteed contract Exhibit 2: 40M dead cap hit (largest ever) for a traded QB Exhibit 3: Paying a receiver QB money These changes are remaking contracting and contracts in the NFL. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Mia has Multiple 1sts in Multiple years. They only have one first this year and it’s very late (29). Not sure about next year. Jets have 4, 10 Edited March 23, 2022 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Of course it has to be in our division FFS I'm not Skeered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, wjag said: One really crazy offseason. The NFL collective have lost their collective minds. Exhibit 1: 230M fully guaranteed contract Exhibit 2: 40M dead cap hit (largest ever) for a traded QB Exhibit 3: Paying a receiver QB money These changes are remaking contracting and contracts in the NFL. Think every team is expecting the big salary cap balloon in the next couple years and paying in advance. Pretty wise actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, wjag said: One really crazy offseason. The NFL collective have lost their collective minds. Exhibit 1: 230M fully guaranteed contract Exhibit 2: 40M dead cap hit (largest ever) for a traded QB Exhibit 3: Paying a receiver QB money These changes are remaking contracting and contracts in the NFL. Makes me even more glad we got Allen’s extension done when they did. We would be looking at 50+ per year easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: They only have one first this year and it’s very late (29). Not sure about next year. Jets have 4, 10 My Bad. Yep 29 this year 2 in 2023. Also Hill lives in Mia in offseason. (he will end up having to sign an extension pointing would likely more Sign in MIA vs NY) And the guy that had this rumor days before the national guys and they are catching up with all their reports I have already read for the last 4 days. says it is already Done he is a Fin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I am all for this trade. I cant believe the Chiefs are doing this. They are literally stepping aside and saying to us "No please, you go ahead. Take the SuperBowl" The amount of talent drop off will be absurd. No Kelce, No Mahomes. It will be just him. Say what you want about Mahomes and if hes overrated but he can make plays and keep plays alive which is where Hill thrives. Zach Wilson and Tua arent even half the player Mahommes is. They lack deep ball accuracy and teams will plan against Hill. I feel like if he does go to the Jets or Dolphins that he will fade into oblivion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCBills Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, finn said: Really? I've been thinking lately that Mahomes is overrated, which isn't hard since all NFL commentators (no exceptions) thinks he's God level. Even now, it's always Mahomes first, Allen second. The chief argument, so to speak, is that he has Hill and Kelce, who make plays for him. The Bills receivers, by contrast, tend to catch the ball and get tackled, as our lowest RAC stats show. Not saying Mahomes isn't terrific, but I don't think he's any better than Burrows or Herbert. And I really don't think he is at Allen's level. My point: Replace Hill with Ju Ju, and you'll see all Mahomes' performance metrics dropping significantly. Hill/Kelce has always been the difference. Mahomes is really good, but we'll find out just how good when the most unguardable duo in the NFL becomes Kelce and some nice WR's (as i'm sure they'll draft a top guy or two). My guess is we'll find out it was more Hill/Kelce and less Mahomes. Bills WR/TE room is nice, but it's not - and has never been, KC's (with Hill), LAC or Cinci. Edited March 23, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Also I am starting to hear that there are alot of players that Do not like playing with Mahomes (more importantly Mahomes Family). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Tyreek Hill, Devante Adams, Amari Cooper, Robert Woods… I don’t ever want to hear “the cap isn’t real” again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Is tyreek as good without mahomes? Is Mahomes as good without tyreek? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, finn said: Really? I've been thinking lately that Mahomes is overrated, which isn't hard since all NFL commentators (no exceptions) thinks he's God level. Even now, it's always Mahomes first, Allen second. The chief argument, so to speak, is that he has Hill and Kelce, who make plays for him. The Bills receivers, by contrast, tend to catch the ball and get tackled, as our lowest RAC stats show. Not saying Mahomes isn't terrific, but I don't think he's any better than Burrows or Herbert. And I really don't think he is at Allen's level. My point: Replace Hill with Ju Ju, and you'll see all Mahomes' performance metrics dropping significantly. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MahoPa00.htm How can 4800 yards, 37 TDs and 13 INTs be considered overrated? If Josh had that season, half of our fanbase would die from losing too much seemen too quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: LOL okay. That definitely means he would have more than doubled Devin Hester's TD record in half the time. I never said he’d do that. Hester had three seasons with three or more TD returns and Hill certainly is capable of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Do no NFC teams want to win? There's such a great opportunity for a dark horse to make a SB run in that conference and it's like none of those teams want to land any impact players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Hill on the Dolphins is meh. Very telling that it doesn’t scare the Chiefs. There’s only one ball to go around and they don’t have a QB who can take advantage of Waddle and Hill on the field together. Struggling to think of examples of receiver-heavy offenses dominating the league. And they won’t be able to pay both guys when it’s Waddle’s turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Gugny said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MahoPa00.htm How can 4800 yards, 37 TDs and 13 INTs be considered overrated? If Josh had that season, half of our fanbase would die from losing too much seemen too quickly. Replace Knox/Diggs with Kelce/Hill.... Allen would put up historic numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Potentially huge impact for the Bills... both positive and negative. 1. Although this is probably the smart move (long-term) for the Chiefs, the loss of Tyreek Hill would be huge for their offense. With them being our biggest roadblock the last two seasons, I wouldn't mind seeing them get knocked down a peg. 2. Hard to say what kind of impact Hill brings to the AFC East. Miami has a pretty good team overall. But if he picks the Dolphins, Tua has a pretty weak arm and will struggle taking advantage downfield. Hill's talents fit better with Zach Wilson. But then he ends up on a terrible team. 3. The contract situation at Wide Receiver is getting pretty ugly. Stephon Diggs is under contract for 2 more seasons, but will almost certainly be pressing for a new deal before then. It'll be interesting to see if this is still the case this season with what should be an improved OLine. Tua threw a good deep ball in college and was more accurate on deep balls this past season than most NFL QBs. He very rarely had time to throw down the field though and his WRs simply were not good for it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KingBoots8 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 My concern if Miami is involved is if Waddle get shipped over to KC. He’s only about a half-step slower than Hill, and he was damn good even with a bad QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They only have one first this year and it’s very late (29). Not sure about next year. Jets have 4, 10 Which I why I hope it’s Miami. elijah moore + a top 10 pick + another pick and I think the chiefs are much better off. Those 3 players will make 7M a year combined for the next 3 years. I heard Tyreek wants 28M a year, psssh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 See Catching up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 49 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: He's not getting traded to the Bills stop it people. OMG people! Big Blitz just reported Diggs is “getting traded to the Bills”!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said: Do no NFC teams want to win? There's such a great opportunity for a dark horse to make a SB run in that conference and it's like none of those teams want to land any impact players. Well, one does. I realized long ago that the NFL is a show about Tom Brady, with other teams roles to add color and nuance to his heroic tale. I'm kidding of course, BTW. Sort of. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Of course it has to be in our division FFS Nah cmon man our division is as weak as they go. We have nothing to complain about. Hill to Dolphins is better that Hill staying in Chiefs But Hill to Panthers or so is still better, no argument there. Edited March 23, 2022 by No_Matter_What 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Diggs, Davis, and Allen have all talked about how Diggs drew heavy coverage and how that opened things up for Davis. I think another thing that shouldn't be overlooked is how much of an effect Andy Reid's scheme has been able to put him in a good position. I bet we have seen the best of Tyreek Hill if he leaves KC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Hill to the Jets or Fish is a huge win for Buffalo. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Jets will dodge a bullet if he chooses Miami. Could see Hill becoming next Antonio Brown without Reid and Mahomes keeping this guy in check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Literally every Dolphins fan now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Financially he'd be better off in Miami considering there's no state income tax. NY would be better for endorsements, but considering Hill's past of assaulting women and children, I don't think most businesses would want him as a spokesman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said: My concern if Miami is involved is if Waddle get shipped over to KC. He’s only about a half-step slower than Hill, and he was damn good even with a bad QB why would they get rid of Waddle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplebulldog Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Think the Chiefs could be having larger issues as well. I think this drunken Brett Reid trail DWI trial , set for April 18, with have Big ramifications on his Big Daddy. If JR got tanked with the old man etc on the Chiefs campus , not a great look at all. Then there is going to be a civil trial as well, which will get ugly, though they will settle I am sure. In addition, Big Daddy not a bastion of health either and I could see him stepping down after 2022 or "forced to retire" by the shield. But who knows, look at all the bad looks the NFL has now that get sweeped under the rug. Edited March 23, 2022 by Purplebulldog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 such a dumb move for Hill... force your way off the Chiefs to go to the Dolphins, whose QB can't throw 20 yards? good for us though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said: My concern if Miami is involved is if Waddle get shipped over to KC. He’s only about a half-step slower than Hill, and he was damn good even with a bad QB It’s just different. Hill is just different then every other fast wr. He’s in the Randy Moss category. There’s no defense that stops him. Only thing that stops him would be the qb. Edited March 23, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, eball said: Hill to the Jets or Fish is a huge win for Buffalo. I agree. Facing him twice a year in the division vs Jets or Phins is so much better than in the playoffs with Mahomes and Andy Reid calling the plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: Jets will dodge a bullet if he chooses Miami. Could see Hill becoming next Antonio Brown without Reid and Mahomes keeping this guy in check. Jets fans are surprisingly rationale in their discussions on this. Split fanbase it seems, with many cringing at the compensation and money for an aging WR who's game is based on speed. Worried he becomes the next AB in NYC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 How is Miami's Oline? Hope with Von on our team we have enough pressure to neutralize at WR duo like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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