Seahawks going after Deshaun Watson

[H2o]

5 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

They'd be better off using the 1st round pick they got from Denver on Malik Wilson and then using the additional picks to build around him.

Malik Willis bumped his draft stock this past weekend. He won't make it to #9 now. He might not even make it out of the top 5. 

[FilthyBeast]

I still don't get the Watson hype even if you take away the all these allegations and his unprofessional attitude.

 

But good for Seattle if they want to piss away all the assets they just received in the Wilson deal on him and hope Watson enjoys rebuilding and playing in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL.

[Doc]

When I heard Wilson got traded for a couple 1st, I figured this was their next move.  Pete Carroll doesn't care about character so it makes sense.

[Big Turk]

From a purely playing standpoint, it would probably be an upgrade...younger, cheaper and better.

 

From an off field standpoint, it is a PR nightmare

[Boatdrinks]

Good place for him. Hope it happens. 

[billsfan1959]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Can you imagine the competition Metcalf would have with Diggs😎

 

Between the two of them, they would have every local hotel completely booked on Valentines Day...

[Sierra Foothills]

2 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

An upgrade on the field in my opinion and younger. A slimy move, but man that would be a steal for them.

 

The Seahawks would have to acquire Watson in a trade so it would be interesting to see how much of the haul from the Wilson trade is then spent on acquiring Watson.

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Watson is 26 (6 years younger than Wilson) and an undeniable talent. If he survives his legal issues and actually plays for the Seahawks, it could end up being a great reboot for both Watson and the Seahawks

As long as he stays away from the afce.

[nucci]

42 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

I still don't get the Watson hype even if you take away the all these allegations and his unprofessional attitude.

 

But good for Seattle if they want to piss away all the assets they just received in the Wilson deal on him and hope Watson enjoys rebuilding and playing in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL.

Really? He's a very good QB.

[BADOLBILZ]

2 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

The Seahawks would have to acquire Watson in a trade so it would be interesting to see how much of the haul from the Wilson trade is then spent on acquiring Watson.

 

 

Houston should take them for MORE.........Denver absolutely FLEECED Seattle for Watson.    

 

And the fact that all the teams that seem to be listed as destinations for Watson are in the NFC should only drive up the price.

[Malazan]

2 hours ago, H2o said:

Trade Wilson, who is a top 10 QB with a squeaky clean image, to go after a top 10 QB in Watson who is a degenerate and you aren't certain if he'll ever play again? Makes sense. 

 

Trade two 1st round picks for Jamal Adams..

 

..Seattle ain't the best at decisions..

[Watkins101]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

From a talent/age perspective... Watson >>> Russ

 

If this happens, good.. Finally get a good QB over to the NFC to compete with cakewalk Rodgers.

 

Although, we saw Kyler look incompetent at times without Hopkins.  In the one year post-Hopkins in Houston, Watson didn't exactly look very good - He put up most of his numbers in garbage time. 

 

Currently the Seahawks have DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett, a great 1-2 punch at WR and just added a solid TE in Noah Fant. I think those options are probably as good, if not better than when Watson had Hopkins and an often injured will fuller.

[FilthyBeast]

6 minutes ago, nucci said:

Really? He's a very good QB.

 

Not saying he terrible but I see him more as a Jay Cutler type...can put up big numbers and fill the stat sheet but wilts  under pressure and against good teams.

 

In fact his only career playoff win came against our very own Bills in a few years ago in a game we also probably should should have won.

 

Still think any team that gives up a lot in a trade is stupid though since Watson essentially quit on his current team and big time extension he signed.

[Logic]

As someone on Twitter said…

 

In terms of how this all affects the Bills and the AFC: if it turns out the AFC ultimately ships out a 26 year old Deshaun Watson and gets back a 34 year old Russell Wilson — who gets put into the meat grinder AFC West — that’s a net win for Buffalo and its yearly chances at the #1 seed.

[Watkins101]

25 minutes ago, Logic said:

As someone on Twitter said…

 

In terms of how this all affects the Bills and the AFC: if it turns out the AFC ultimately ships out a 26 year old Deshaun Watson and gets back a 34 year old Russell Wilson — who gets put into the meat grinder AFC West — that’s a net win for Buffalo and its yearly chances at the #1 seed.

Maybe long term, but I’d have to disagree in the short term. The Texans are more than a QB away from being a good team, but the broncos were average with bad QB play. Adding a top 10 QB to a solid roster in the AFC doesn’t help the bills chances… unless you are counting on the rest of the AFC west having worse records due to adding Wilson in division.

[Lv-Bills]

2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Did he really?  At 4-12?

 

Yes you can spin it that way.

 

You are what your record says you are, especially for a QB in a QB driven league.  The Texans won exactly as many games with Davis Mills/Tyrod Taylor as they did the year before with Deshaun Watson with JJ Watt.  Simple undeniable facts.

What does a team's record have to do with what kind of a year Deshaun Watson had?  If anything, it makes an even better point about what a great year Watson had in spite of the crap that surrounded him.  Kind of like Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson.  And it certainly didn't all mostly come in garbage time, which was an absurd comment that provoked my response in the first place.

 

The Texans were 4-12 with Watson, who killed it in 2020.  He also had them more than competitive in at least 12 of 16 games.  He, as in his own performance, was outstanding, and that is well documented by many sports people.  Some of which said it may have been his greatest season in his young career considering who the Texans surrounded him with.

 

Below is just one of several articles that realize how good this QB is, and was in 2020.  This isn't even questionable.

 

Top 10 players on losing teams - Watson #1

Edited March 9, 2022 by Lv-Bills

[Mark Vader]

3 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

An upgrade on the field in my opinion and younger. A slimy move, but man that would be a steal for them.

The very definition of Pete Carroll.

[FlaFitz1]

NFL Network - Rapoport/Pelissero are reporting the Panthers and the Bucs are going to pursue Watson 

[Doc]

8 minutes ago, FlaFitz1 said:

NFL Network - Rapoport/Pelissero are reporting the Panthers and the Bucs are going to pursue Watson 

 

Going to be a bidding war for him.  I wonder if that means his legal issues are closed to being resolved without much damage to him?

 

And those are all NFC teams.  Good.

[Jay_Fixit]

4 hours ago, teef said:

i think i heard that watson's case will go in front of a grand jury this friday.  i'm not sure how long after his issues could be resolved, but i assume it's a big step.

Maybe you can watch for us since you don’t work Fridays.

[Alphadawg7]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Lol, called this 1 second after I read Wilson was traded.  Younger, better version of what Wilson is today.

 

Next week Watson will either be in high demand or his trade value will remain cold...this Friday is a big day for his immediate future in terms of the legal issues.

[BuffaloBaumer]

Out of the AFC with Dolphins and New England not in the mix is all I care about.

[teef]

2 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Maybe you can watch for us since you don’t work Fridays.

can't.  fridays are leg days.

[Mark Vader]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

From a purely playing standpoint, it would probably be an upgrade...younger, cheaper and better.

 

From an off field standpoint, it is a PR nightmare

PR nightmare? In Seattle?

 

The people in that city are filthy. Remember the community of CHODE?

[SoTier]

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Plaintiff's attorneys must be waiting for the grand jury to indict before they get their teeth into him for those civil depositions...

 

The evidence in criminal proceedings is considerably higher than in civil proceedings, and these cases are notably difficult to prosecute because it's generally "he said/she said".   Cuomo faced criminal charges in two or three counties, but I think that all of those were dropped before they ever got to the grand jury stage because the DAs didn't think they could get the grand juries to return criminal charges.

 

1 hour ago, Watkins101 said:

Maybe long term, but I’d have to disagree in the short term. The Texans are more than a QB away from being a good team, but the broncos were average with bad QB play. Adding a top 10 QB to a solid roster in the AFC doesn’t help the bills chances… unless you are counting on the rest of the AFC west having worse records due to adding Wilson in division.

 

The idea is that this is good for the Bills because it evens up the AFCW so that those teams are likely to beat each other up, knocking all of them out of the running for the #1 seed.   The Bills, OTOH, have an easy road to the #1 seed because they easily dominate the AFCE.

[Donuts and Doritos]

Never thought QB was the issue holding the Seahawks back. More the bonehead head coach who made this call:

[Logic]

2 hours ago, Watkins101 said:

Maybe long term, but I’d have to disagree in the short term. The Texans are more than a QB away from being a good team, but the broncos were average with bad QB play. Adding a top 10 QB to a solid roster in the AFC doesn’t help the bills chances… unless you are counting on the rest of the AFC west having worse records due to adding Wilson in division.

This.
 

The Bills’ Super Bowl odds went up in Vegas after the Wilson trade. The Chiefs’ odds went down.

 

Three, or perhaps all four, of the AFC west teams are going to be good, but they all face each other. They may all end up with 3-3 division records every year, while the Bills are 5-1 in the East.

 

The West and North will be season long dogfights for the foreseeable future, while the East looks comparatively easy. That means a higher chance at the top seed for Buffalo, which is why Vegas gives them the top Super Bowl odds in the conference.

[TheFunPolice]

14 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Never thought QB was the issue holding the Seahawks back. More the bonehead head coach who made this call:

 

If not for a well placed DB that's a TD. Watching it is like watching a nightmare!

[TBBills]

I don't think watson will be any good as a QB anymore.

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, mannc said:

Nope…reportedly the depositions are going forward and Watson will plead the fifth…meaning that he’s totally screwed in the civil cases.

i didn’t say they weren’t going forward.  His lawyer said he will be deposed after grand jury concludes

[PonyBoy]

6 hours ago, H2o said:

Trade Wilson, who is a top 10 QB with a squeaky clean image, to go after a top 10 QB in Watson who is a degenerate and you aren't certain if he'll ever play again? Makes sense. 

Keeps working out for Antonio Brown...

[mannc]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

i didn’t say they weren’t going forward.  His lawyer said he will be deposed after grand jury concludes

It was reported that he’s going to be deposed while the grand jury is in session and that Watson would be taking the Fifth.

[H2o]

58 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Never thought QB was the issue holding the Seahawks back. More the bonehead head coach who made this call:

If they just run Marshawn then the Pats/Brady LIKELY have one less ring. 

[Jay_Fixit]

2 hours ago, teef said:

can't.  fridays are leg days.

Is it hard to work legs when they’re only 24 inches long?

[teef]

7 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Is it hard to work legs when they’re only 24 inches long?

not at all.  it looks like i walk around on 2 hams.

[HurlyBurly51]

He's a Carroll kinda guy

[Chaos]

8 hours ago, teef said:

i think i heard that watson's case will go in front of a grand jury this friday.  i'm not sure how long after his issues could be resolved, but i assume it's a big step.

Grand Juries almost always indict. If as expected Watson is indicted it could easily be a year or more before it goes to trial.  If convicted and sentenced to prison he may never play again. if indicted he is likely closer to the start than the end of his problems. 

[frostbitmic]

37 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Grand Juries almost always indict. If as expected Watson is indicted it could easily be a year or more before it goes to trial.  If convicted and sentenced to prison he may never play again. if indicted he is likely closer to the start than the end of his problems. 

Prison ? ... for asking for extras during a massage ?

 

Watson hasn't been charged with rape, at worst he'll have to write a few checks

[Chaos]

1 hour ago, frostbitmic said:

Prison ? ... for asking for extras during a massage ?

 

Watson hasn't been charged with rape, at worst he'll have to write a few checks

DAs don’t usually spend a year investigating to present misdemeanor charges to a grand jury

[Bferra13]

8 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

The Seahawks would have to acquire Watson in a trade so it would be interesting to see how much of the haul from the Wilson trade is then spent on acquiring Watson.

Agreed. Yeah it's not a free lunch. And the Texans still want a ton.