Punching Bag Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: If he tries to recreate the Patriots light offense he used in Buffalo… he’ll go the smaller shiftier receiver route if Beasley doesn’t restructure he’s definitely a possibility even though the New York media with Beasleys politics are like oil and water. Oil and a lit match not oil and water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Giants are not in good cap shape, so perhaps won’t be stealing many from here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: Like I said, priority but not high priority. Something to be said for chemistry and scheme familiarity with team mates. Dane showed promise but don't think he's ready to be a starting caliber CB2 on a SB contender. Levi shouldn't get Top flight CB1 $ but he does deserve a good pay bump. He proved me wrong this season. He's a solid CB2 There's absolutely no way Dane should be CB2. He's fine in a depth or Nickel role but he's slow. Tre's counterpart will be drafted at 25 this April. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 i think he just cleans out the fridge and leaves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Well don't the Giants have the great Jake Fromm? I'm sure that was one of the things that attracted Daboll over to Giants. He can coach up Fromm finally. Edited January 30, 2022 by prissythecat Fix typo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I don’t know how much cap room the New Jersey Giants have I’m thinking Mackenzie may sign there because of two things the contract the bills signed him for last year ,the way he was treated after his kickoff fumble and lack of usage even after he saved the bills butt filling in for Beasley. any offense linemen we release either in training camp or to save cap . no TE because we have only one maybe a couple defensive linemen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Well, Trubisky is probably better than Jones.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, BfloBillsFan said: Isaiah Mc Kenzie was the first name that popped in my head once the hiring was announced After Daboll ignored him for most of the season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, BfloBillsFan said: Isaiah Mc Kenzie was the first name that popped in my head once the hiring was announced If he accepted a random invite to go to someone’s house in Jersey like he did on Christmas Eve in Buffalo, he might get shanked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 please be Leslie Frazier. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Ooooh fun game!! Mongo, Dirty, Klein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: There's absolutely no way Dane should be CB2. He's fine in a depth or Nickel role but he's slow. Tre's counterpart will be drafted at 25 this April. I hope we go BPA. Wallace has great No 2 CB. But I think CB looks like BPA at 25 according to most mocks at this time. If that happens, I’m extending Dane cheap as a CB/, and Wallace is likely (and saddly) overpaid somewhere. Edited January 30, 2022 by RyanC883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, streetkings01 said: Chad Hall as the OC once Dorsey is promoted. He reminds me of Steve Belichick, minus the nepotism and weird facial expressions 1 hour ago, prissythecat said: Well don't the Giants have the great Jake Fromm? I'm sure that was one of the things that attracted Daboll over to Giants. He can coach up Fromm finall. #elitewhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I think that you'll see alot from next offseason, depending on who is available. Basically, he will take the Beane route and go after players who he scouted, no matter how old they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Daboll takes Dorsey and Tierney as coaches. McKenzie, Trubisky, and Siran Neal as players there’s my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said: No I cannot. Nor can I, but nothing so far scares me. . 5 hours ago, Real McNasty said: I think he will try to kidnap/abduct Josh Allen and get arrested. I hope he doesn’t mess with his beach chairs! That there is TROUBLE! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: If he accepted a random invite to go to someone’s house in Jersey like he did on Christmas Eve in Buffalo, he might get shanked Or poisoned, LOL. 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Ooooh fun game!! Mongo, Dirty, Klein They're all under contract. He wants 'em, Beane says "what will you offer me?" 2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: After Daboll ignored him for most of the season? Yeah, it's weird to me how everyone attributes whatever happens with McKenzie to McDermott. And McDermott did bench McKenzie after the contactless fumble. But in general, we have no reason to think that Daboll doesn't design the plays, install the gameplan, and call the plays - so whether McKenzie is on the field or not, and what role he has when he's on the field, would appear to depend on Daboll, presumably with some input from Chad Hall and from Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Hmm. They have similarities but Toney is bigger and faster in a straight line. McKenzie has that short sharp change of direction. I think Toney should be more of an outside receiver long term tbh. I don't think they are the same player. I didn't realize he's 6ft 190. Most draft guides had him as a slot wr. Will be interesting to see how they use him going forward. He was injured a bit but produced well when healthy (although didn't watch too many Giant games, they were horrible). McKenzie also produced when give the opportunity. I hope we find a way to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Ryan Bates Harrison Phillips And he's taking Tribusky with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 McChoke. I know, not gonna happen, but a guy can dream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 12 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: Giants are not in good cap shape, so perhaps won’t be stealing many from here. None of these players will get the big bucks, some can be had a bargain prices. This is why we are listing non starters in Buffalo players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Derek Anderson and Joe Webb The need for mentor QB's is huge as well as Webbs package Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Not really a lot to take from the offensive side of the ball. McKenzie? Brieda? I don’t think Daboll rushes to pick up either of them. Beasley if cut? Doubtful. Trubisky? Probably can’t due to QB controversy, but he would make a lot of sense otherwise. I just don’t see much happening this year. Maybe down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 9 hours ago, HOUSE said: None of these players will get the big bucks, some can be had a bargain prices. This is why we are listing non starters in Buffalo players Agreed, but can either team really afford to pay backups significant $? I do agree that Giants will be looking for cheap players in FA, perhaps they can sign a Bill or two, but I think they will be looking to cut cap $ and build through draft with inexpensive and young FA. I could see McKenzie or Wallace being on their radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 4:18 PM, BfloBillsFan said: Isaiah Mc Kenzie was the first name that popped in my head once the hiring was announced You mean the guy he refused to use for the vast majority of this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) They have the WR core of Kadarius Toney, Darius Slayton and Kenny Golladay so I think they'll stick with that. I think Levi Wallace is a real possibility though along with Feliciano imo. Edited January 30, 2022 by BuffaloBillsGospel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 3:43 PM, Paul Costa said: Is Lil’ Dirty a good fit there? Don’t they already have Toney from Florida. Isn’t he a higher end McKenzie Yeah, many here seem to assume that McKenzie had limited opportunities on the field because McDermott kept his thumb on him, but I don't think that's likely to be true. I think Daboll had very broad control over who was utilized, and how, on offense. McKenzie has spoken out about how nice Daboll was to him and "treated him like a son", giving him an open invitation to come anytime. But that doesn't mean Daboll saw him as a capable slot receiver. What is meant by "steal"? A lot of the players being named are free agents. Some, the Bills may not want back. Some of the players being named are under contract, and would be available only through trade. @HOUSE? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 4:10 PM, HOUSE said: Here are my predictions....3 Matt Breida, Jake Kumerow, Andre Smith Based on looking who we got as Carolina North .. I would think Buffalo East would target some guys that have the right "mental make-up" to break the losing culture while they do a full rebuild even though the players they steal are not great or past their prime. Feliciano, Taiwan Jones, Levi Wallace, Boettgger are possible cuts / free agents I could see them attracted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yeah, many here seem to assume that McKenzie had limited opportunities on the field because McDermott kept his thumb on him, but I don't think that's likely to be true. I think Daboll had very broad control over who was utilized, and how, on offense. McKenzie has spoken out about how nice Daboll was to him and "treated him like a son", giving him an open invitation to come anytime. But that doesn't mean Daboll saw him as a capable slot receiver. What is meant by "steal"? A lot of the players being named are free agents. Some, the Bills may not want back. Some of the players being named are under contract, and would be available only through trade. @HOUSE? There are many ways to steal players, You can trade for peanuts, claim off waivers or claim off the practice squad but it still stealing. Stealing is Stealing Dirty bastards... . Edited February 2, 2022 by HOUSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: There are many ways to steal players, You can trade for peanuts, claim off waivers or claim off the practice squad but it still stealing. Dirty bastards... . What about Free Agency? Don't think Waivers apply at present, nor does practice squad - PS guys have either signed Futures deals or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What about Free Agency? Don't think Waivers apply at present, nor does practice squad - PS guys have either signed Futures deals or not I was only kidding Hap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 53 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Why didn't they sign him to a futures deal right away then? 54 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I was only kidding Hap Just trying to figure out what counts as stealing so I can join the fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Are we allowed to name attorneys? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 So to help out, here is a list of the Bills current FA: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/buffalo-bills/ Here is a list of the Bills current roster and their cap: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ Until they hire a DC, I have no clue about who they might want on the D side of the ball 1) I think Daboll may sign Ike Boettger, who is an UFA. His season finished with a torn Achilles, but every OL coach likes to bring a couple of "his guys" in as player coaches to help teach his blocking system and how he likes things done, and Johnson has used Boettger as an example of his technique in seminars. Bangedup Bills says "Due to more aggressive rehab, there have been advances that have shaved the return to play in the NFL down to six to eight months. Improvement in performance following the injury has been observed, suggesting that this isn’t as much of a career-ender as it was a decade or two before. Return-to-play rates are north of 80 percent, according to The Athletic on a profile of the Indianapolis Colts’ management of the injuries." so it's not beyond possibility to think that Boettger could be in camp next August, although probably on a LP basis (but could still be around the guys and help out). 2) Along the same lines...we owe Jon Feliciano $4.97M next season, of which only $1.5M is dead cap. That's a lot of Sofrito for a guy who only started 6 games, only played in 9 games, and finished the last 5 games on the bench. Time to move on. I think Beane may try to trade him, and you never know what the BeaneMeister will pull off in that regard, but if he doesn't trade him he may cut him and Johnson may want to pick him up if he can do so at vet minimum, as one of "his guys" to teach the blocking - especially if Boettger needs more time on IR 3) Cole Beasley if he can get him. I know the Giants are short on cap right now, but I would expect Daboll and Schoen to overhaul the roster. Beasley was instrumental in Josh's development, helping him understand option routes and giving him a target in the middle of the field. I'm one who tends to think that Beane's presser was, ah, "lukewarm" for a guy they plan to bring back for $7.6M in a lean cap year. A few cuts here, a few cuts there and they could swing it - or maybe they have a piece that Beane wants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Cody Ford, Ike Boettger and Jon Feliciano ... he's going to gut our backup interior o-line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Looks like Daboll just stole Shea Tierney from the Bills to be the gnats new QB coach ! When McD found out he screamed DAAAAAABOOOOOLLLLL !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Remember the Giants got to get out of cap hell first before they start raping the bills . any viable lineman or ST player available in addition they will raid our cutdown and practice team next year . Beane better gear up his pro scouting dept ,possibly raid NY right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) Anyone the Bills choose not to re-sign Edited February 3, 2022 by JMF2006 - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I can see Emmanual Sanders going to the Giants, I think I remember a video of when he first got signed where, and I could be wrong, the then now Giants GM Schoen said he's been trying to get Sanders on the Bills for a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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