Isaiah McKenzie aka, Lil Dirty, sounds like he’s moving on

[Chicken Boo]

13 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

The list of UFA WRs this year is eye opening 

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/wide-receiver/

 

A lot of talent in there.

[Mat68]

Numbers game.  I dont expect Buffalo to offer him the most money.  He has been at league minimum.  Hes going to get his bag.  I think Buffalo does need speed.  I like him in the slot.  Do they release Beasley and pay Mckenzie?  Maybe.  Core is the same.  The rest will change.  

[78thealltimegreat]

It’s sounds like this off season Beane is going to make an effort to get Allen more talent….his draft picks that he’s already invested heavily on defense have to play on the other side 

Edited January 24, 2022 by 78thealltimegreat

[Hapless Bills Fan]

22 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

A mistake on our part.

 

Ultimately, I think so

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I think Knox is a huge part in why Bills could move on from Bease/Dirty.

 

Team could realistically draft a slot WR in round 3.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

18 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

The list of UFA WRs this year is eye opening 

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/wide-receiver/

 

Some names there, but enough to do cartwheels over?

 

[Wo-Bah]

7 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Right, he’s a solid but limited slot WR who has benefitted from the Josh Allen Effect

Respectfully, is this a bad thing?  A QB & WR being on the same page and know each others tendencies, is a good thing and can take a while to develop.  Why try to bring in someone new to get on the same page as Josh, if he already has receivers in place?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

21 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Ehhh, it may or may not. He’ll definitely test the open market for sure like last year, but I don’t feel like his value at WR has increased. If he was unhappy with last years offers, this years won’t be any better.

 

Dude, you may feel like his value at WR has not increased, but when a backup WR replaces a starter and goes off for a 92% catch % and 125 yds, >10 yds per catch, wouldn't you think that would catch the attention of pro personal guys around the league?

[Toyo321]

6 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

Would be a huge loss. But I wouldn’t really blame him with the way McD sees him. 

Another reason McD has his head so far up his butt.  This guy could have been a key player for next year and because our coach and his proverbial dog house now he is going to start losing key players, as they just walk away.  Unreal.  The Bills better do some damage control and soon. 

 

YOU ARE NOT EXEMPT McD YOU HAVE TO OWN THIS !!!!  THIS IS ALL ON YOU !!!

Edited January 25, 2022 by Toyo321

[papazoid]

the business side is ruthless.....could be as many as 20 new faces on next years roster....NFL= not for long

 

hopefully mckenzie is one of them, but you only have so much to spend and who knows what another team may value/offer.

 

for sure we need 2 corners (goodbye #30 & #39) and  2 OL (zero depth)

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I think Knox is a huge part in why Bills could move on from Bease/Dirty.

 

Team could realistically draft a slot WR in round 3.

 

Yeah?  Where was Knox yesterday?  Both had 4 targets/touches.  McKenzie generated 2x the yards on them.

 

Me, I feel McKenzie fills a very different role on the offense than Knox does, and that we need upgrades at both TE and WR.

 

And it may be the Bills have someone in mind they plan to target for the KR/PR role as well as a slot/speed back WR, who they feel will be an upgrade to McKenzie

[Ralonzo]

25 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

I think it's a no brainer he ends up in NY with Daboll assuming that's close to a done deal.

What snaps is he going to take away from Toney?

 

It’s just Twitter. He sounded the same when he got deactivated for Stevenson, and was still up for the season ending run.

[teef]

I just assume it’s all posturing…for now. 

[MrEpsYtown]

He was available for nothing last year and the year before and nobody wanted him. He showed some nice progress, but this is not something that people should be going crazy over. I think he tests the market as he should, but there is no guarantee he won't be back. 

 

If he decided he is gone already, it is because they want him gone. I think he should be brought back if the price is right, but I think we see a lot of turnover in the return game and in our receiving corps outside of Diggs and Davis. 

[Mango]

32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I hate this time of year. 
 

 

 

I was worried he would want to leave after this year based on how he was managed. He proved himself a useful tool this year, and last year when Beasley went down. His arrow was pointing up and Beasley's is pointing down. This isn't Madden, you can't just have a quality player ride the bench in a contract year just to keep his cost to re-sign down. 

 

[pigpen65]

When he was involved in the O the Bills won. All the big losses he wasn't. I don't know, seems like he should have been involved more. He should leave, get the pay and respect from a team that will use him to his potential

[TheyCallMeAndy]

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Dude, you may feel like his value at WR has not increased, but when a backup WR replaces a starter and goes off for a 92% catch % and 125 yds, >10 yds per catch, wouldn't you think that would catch the attention of pro personal guys around the league?

Yes, but they won’t go crazy when it’s 1 game imo. 

[In Summary]

22 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I'd like to keep the OL together if possible, but I don't feel the same about the WR room.  

 

I think we can absolutely upgrade WR3 in this Offense.  

 

Diggs and Davis are a good duo.  Stevenson and Hodgins are depth at 5/6.   But we could definitely serve to be more explosive out of the 3/4 WR positions.   

 

 

Absolutely.  It's all abouts the O line. More than WR and RB.

[BuffaloBillyG]

11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

IMHO, McKenzie is one of those "replaceable" guys that the Bills keep trying to replace - and failing to find a better option.

 

This season, Breida and Stevenson were supposed to replace him.  How'd that work out?

About the same as the way they have managed to "replace" Levi Wallace over the years.

 

For both players they have brought in lower level competition. I believe McK was brought back a couple days before Breida signed and a few weeks before Stevenson was drafted. Looked like they were stocking the roster with guys to compete to take over for Andre Roberts. 

 

I expect this offseason for the Bills to make a real effort to replace him. Signing a RB on the down spiral and a lower draft picks just isn't it.

[ExWNYer]

14 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Numbers game.  I dont expect Buffalo to offer him the most money.  He has been at league minimum.  Hes going to get his bag.  I think Buffalo does need speed.  I like him in the slot.  Do they release Beasley and pay Mckenzie?  Maybe.  Core is the same.  The rest will change.  

 

I don't see Beasley being back. Releasing him represents almost $6.5 million in salary cap relief. There will be younger, more dynamic options available for that money. 

[transplantbillsfan]

Posturing.  If McBeane wants him back, he'll be back.

 

I hope they choose him over Beasley, honestly.

[JoshAllin]

I only see that tweet as a positive compliment for Allen but then again I don't really follow tweets

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Yes, but they won’t go crazy when it’s 1 game imo. 

Dont know if you consider $8m for 2 years or $11m for three crazy… but I could see him getting offers around that… 

[Captain_Quint]

I wouldn't mind Pringle in his spot next year. He is fast, and has experience in the return game as well. 

[Mat68]

4 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

I don't see Beasley being back. Releasing him represents almost $6.5 million in salary cap relief. There will be younger, more dynamic options available for that money. 

Im inclined to agree.  If Beasley will take less money?  Maybe they keep him.  Allen earned the right, imo to be brought in on some of these decisions.  Not like Mckenzie or Beasley are going to get massive deals.    Who knows what next guy like Sanders will come for a discount.

[FilthyBeast]

12 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

What snaps is he going to take away from Toney?

 

It’s just Twitter. He sounded the same when he got deactivated for Stevenson, and was still up for the season ending run.

 

Even if he don't go with Daboll another team will probably be willing to offer him more money than the Bills would.

[QB Bills]

This team doesn't need to spend any more money on skill positions. The cost/benefit doesn't add up. As much as everyone hates to hear it, they need to pour more resources, draft and dollars, into fixing the defense. If you can't find an elite edge rusher, get a big interior matchup nightmare to free Ed Oliver from double teams. Get a new MLB with instincts and for the love of God, fire Levi Wallace into the sun and get a competent cb2.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 minute ago, pigpen65 said:

When he was involved in the O the Bills won. All the big losses he wasn't. I don't know, seems like he should have been involved more. He should leave, get the pay and respect from a team that will use him to his potential

Outside 2nd NE game, which did he have a big impact for the offense? Including the playoffs, his best days were 3 catches for 45 yards and 2 catches for 10.

Rushing? Best day was 2 for 17 in regular season. He ran 3 times in both post season games for 15 and 29 yards. 
 

His best case for a respectable payday is KR/PR money, he won’t make much on the WR/RB market. 

[Buffalosouth]

33 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

The list of UFA WRs this year is eye opening 

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/wide-receiver/

I was thinking right after the Packers lost that Adams and Diggs would be nice with Gabe and Knox. Christian Kirk would be a good addition to the slot if Mckenzie and Beasley are both gone.

 

The offense was good this year but when Daboll goes I hope they don't revert to a less pass happy offense. JA 17 showed last night our way to win I him. Let's hope we find a guy who can get the QB on the ground too.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Dont know if you consider $8m for 2 years or $11m for three crazy… but I could see him getting offers around that… 

Idk if 178 receiving yards is worth 4 million a year when we are so limited in cap space.

Edited January 24, 2022 by TheyCallMeAndy

[HOUSE]

If the Bills want him back then he will be....if not, probably in Brian Dabolls new team's offense

 

Poor guy, could end up a Bear....

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, Buffalosouth said:

I was thinking right after the Packers lost that Adams and Diggs would be nice with Gabe and Knox. Christian Kirk would be a good addition to the slot if Mckenzie and Beasley are both gone.

 

The offense was good this year but when Daboll goes I hope they don't revert to a less pass happy offense. JA 17 showed last night our way to win I him. Let's hope we find a guy who can get the QB on the ground too.

Or how about Godwin or Williams from the chargers? 

[RalphWilson'sNewWar]

Not sure how Coach McDermott would want to bring Beasley back after his Covid/Twitter Crusade.

[Aussie Joe]

3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Idk if 178 receiving yards is worth 4 million a year when we are so limited in cap space.

 

The Bills wont pay that ... Others might

[Buffalo Dude]

31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think he said if Brandon Beane wants to find him, he will be in Miami selling his meat. 
 

I just went to his restaurant. Small place. Only decoration in the place is a Bills helmet. Being in Miami, it shows he loves his Bills. 

[BADOLBILZ]

16 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

He was available for nothing last year and the year before and nobody wanted him. He showed some nice progress, but this is not something that people should be going crazy over. I think he tests the market as he should, but there is no guarantee he won't be back. 

 

If he decided he is gone already, it is because they want him gone. I think he should be brought back if the price is right, but I think we see a lot of turnover in the return game and in our receiving corps outside of Diggs and Davis. 

 

 

I would expect Braxton Berrios to be on their radar. 

 

Two birds (slot playmaker and great returner).........one stone.

 

Jets might be willing to let him go because they have a great talent in slot in Elijah Moore.

 

 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Didn't he post something similar last season as well 

[BADOLBILZ]

10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I doubt it. My guess is Jets pay Berrios. They are pretty high in him… no thoughts on the last 13 seconds of the game? 

 

My thoughts were that the better team won.

 

They aren't better by a lot..........but just enough to make the Bills the second best team in the NFL.

 

Most of us watched the Chiefs do this exact same type of thing to the Chargers in LA a month or so ago..........eventually chasing all those jack rabbits around tires out any defense and when an NFL defense is that tired they can't stop ANYTHING.  13 seconds and 3 TO's was like having a minute left.    Maybe you squib there but that's the same ST unit that just gave up a long return to Hill.    

 

They just needed KC to make one mistake at the end and they did not oblige.

 

We talked about this last offseason..........the Bills needed to add more speed on offense and notably improve the finishing ability of the pass rush..........they didn't actually accomplish either.

 

Instead they improved against the Chiefs this season because Allen got MUCH better over the course of this season and the OL gelled.

[Nextmanup]

38 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

I don't see Beasley being back. Releasing him represents almost $6.5 million in salary cap relief. There will be younger, more dynamic options available for that money. 

I would say Beasley is almost certainly gone!  

 

There will be a number of changes all over the place.  That's OK.

 

The SB era Bills had TONS of roster tweaks all over the place during their era of dominance.

 

Look at how much the DL and OL changed!  Both were far from stagnant.

 

The elite core remained the same--that was it.

 

 

[Brennan Huff]

I’m not going to read too much into this. I think Beasley and Sanders both walk. Diggs/Davis/Dirty. Triple D