Postgame Thread DAMMIT!

[Dan]

It was one hell of a game.  I’m glad I got the last minute ticket and my sister and I could go. Around us ...all the Chiefs fans were good natured anf fun and congratulated me for winning... when we had 13 seconds left.   Then.. Well ***** fell apart.  
 

I’m just tired of being the good guy in the stands that the other teams fan congratulate and tell me how good our players are, how much respect they have for our QB, how good it all was... and yet walk away with the loss.  Once again the Bills were in one of the greatest games played... and lost.  ***** we’re all so long over due to finally just be the ones that win this game.   It sucks.  It hurts.  At what point do the crushing losses just overwhelm the joy of a couple wins? This is close to it.  

Edited January 24, 2022 by Dan

[JerseyBills]

1 hour ago, BeastMaster said:

He took away Josh's and this teams moment of overcoming their nemesis and possibly hoisting the Lombardi because he failed to secure the victory with 13 seconds left 

 

That is wasting an all time performance by Josh and Gabe Davis, and we are once again known for an epic losing play that will hang over us...all because of the coach being an absolute failure.

 

I just don't see how you can keep on letting this coach hurt this team and prevent them from ascending to their rightful place amongst the very best...and he is the reason why we haven't gotten over the hump.

 

When will enough be enough? When he blows it again next year? Maybe he'll lose to KC again with another completely inexcusable decision. Will that finally bring you to the conclusion that he cannot get these guys where they wanna go?

 

I'm done with this guy. Every season from now on that this team doesn't make the superbowl is on him.

You know there's a good 25 franchises that would hire McDermott in a second right? He's up there in the elite category.

He's been a blessing for this franchise. 

How do you know he called those plays there.. we really don't know but one thing is certain, McD is a phenomenal coach all around.  

[longtimebillsfan]

4 minutes ago, Dan said:

It was one hell of a game.  I’m glad I got the last minute ticket and my sister and I could go. Around us ...all the Chiefs fans were good natured anf fun and congratulated me for winning... when we had 13 seconds left.   Then.. Well ***** fell apart.  
 

I’m just tired of being the good guy in the stands that the other teams fan congratulate and tell me how good our players are, how much respect they have for our QB, how good it all was... and yet walk away with the loss.  Once again the Bills were in one of the greatest games played... and lost.  ***** we’re all so long over due to finally just be the ones that win this game.   It sucks.  It hurts.  At what point do the crushing work losses just overwhelm the joy of a couple wins.  This is close to it.  

You summed up my feelings exactly.

 

If I could stop being a Bills fan, this game would have done it.

 

How much more can we take?

[Big C]

1 minute ago, longtimebillsfan said:

You summed up my feelings exactly.

 

If I could stop being a Bills fan, this game would have done it.

 

How much more can we take?

Every year I tell myself I can’t keep doing this. And every year I keep coming back. 

[JerseyBills]

8 hours ago, klos63 said:

Short kickoff knocks off 5 seconds, KC gets one play then a hail mary. What was McDermott thinking?

And they routinely kicked short several times this year so it's something the ST unit is well prepared for. Mind boggling 

[longtimebillsfan]

2 minutes ago, Big C said:

Every year I tell myself I can’t keep doing this. And every year I keep coming back. 

Isn't this the definition of an addiction?  You know it's bad for you.  It is toxic.  But you keep coming back for more.  

[mead107]

I take the blame. Stopped cheering on KC with 13 seconds left 

[Matt_In_NH]

Man I am in a foul mood today.  I had some things happen personally over the years that has helped put things like Bills football in perspective.  For years I have not let it affect my personal life/get moody over a game.  Today is gonna be hard.  Everything is pissing me off today and I just woke up an hour ago.

[UKBillFan]

4 minutes ago, mattynh said:

Man I am in a foul mood today.  I had some things happen personally over the years that has helped put things like Bills football in perspective.  For years I have not let it affect my personal life/get moody over a game.  Today is gonna be hard.  Everything is pissing me off today and I just woke up an hour ago.

When does this feeling pass? I don’t feel like my foul mood is going to lift at the moment.

[PromoTheRobot]

Thursday, September 8, 2022. NFL season kickoff, Bills at Chiefs. Prove me wrong.

[MILFHUNTER#518]

Coaches lost the game when they did not go for it on 4th and inches (according to Romo 12 inches to be exact) in the 2nd quarter (I believe),  and not challenging the Gabe Davis toe drag that was clearly a catch. This game was a possession game, keep Patty on the bench more than Josh and we win. Period. If we had won one of those two winnable downs we would not be having this conversation and  would be favorites to lift the Lombardi. 

[sonyab1974]

I know.. This really hurts. 😭💔

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

Watching some the highlights on GMF it looks like we got beat numerous time with the Wr catching the ball coming across the field and then just out running our guys. Very similar to how we lost in Tampa ot. So frustrating. 

Edited January 24, 2022 by loveorhatembillsfan4life

[sonyab1974]

41 minutes ago, mead107 said:

I take the blame. Stopped cheering on KC with 13 seconds left 

 

Thank you. I needed that.

[boco357]

For a team that was borderline obsessed with short kickoff not to do in that situation. 

 

Ugh looked at future schedules and have to go to Arrowhead in 2022 and 2023.

[Lost]

10 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

Watching some the highlights on GMF it looks like we got beat numerous time with the Wr catching the ball coming across the field and then just out running our guys. Very similar to how we lost in Tampa ot. So frustrating. 

 

And who's primary coverage area is the middle of the field?  #49.   The one person who is supposed to the bedrock of our defense is probably the weakest link.

[Since1981]

Losing so many single score games—that is a coach and and game mgt issue. Stands out to me. 

23 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

coming across the field

Romo mentioned this in the game as a potential flaw in the BB defense layout. 

[UKBillFan]

43 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Thursday, September 8, 2022. NFL season kickoff, Bills at Chiefs. Prove me wrong.

Possibly, though they have the Bengals and the Niners in their schedule too so depending out the season pans out, could be one of them. Will have to go some way to better yesterday’s match up though.

 

 

Edited January 24, 2022 by UKBillFan

[damj]

14 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

And who's primary coverage area is the middle of the field?  #49.   The one person who is supposed to the bedrock of our defense is probably the weakest link.

Edmunds is always a yard away from the play. 2nd to last play, he ran away from the receiver. They need to move on from him

[atlbillsfan1975]

17 minutes ago, boco357 said:

For a team that was borderline obsessed with short kickoff not to do in that situation. 

 

Ugh looked at future schedules and have to go to Arrowhead in 2022 and 2023.

Regular season wasn’t the issue this year. Bills kicked their butts. 

[From Roc to Ky bills fan]

9 hours ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

The Bills motto for 25 plus years strong

I absolutely agree but the AFC is full of legit talent that we are going to have to build around

[BeastMaster]

40 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

You know there's a good 25 franchises that would hire McDermott in a second right? He's up there in the elite category.

He's been a blessing for this franchise. 

How do you know he called those plays there.. we really don't know but one thing is certain, McD is a phenomenal coach all around.  

And all 25 would reach the same conclusions after seeing his constant failures in crucial moments

 

He's not phenomenal at all...he's a culture/process guy that will take your team to a certain level, but no further. That is not phenomenal in any way, shape, or form.

 

I won't argue that he's been good for this franchise, but this team now has a top 3 (maybe the best) QB in the league and has championship expectations.

 

You are either content with what he's given you and accept that you'll likely never reach the ultimate goal, or you do not accept good and you go for greatness.

 

We know where we both stand

[njbuff]

Imagine scoring 12 touchdowns in 2 games in the playoffs, yet the Bills are now on the golf course with the rest of the NFL.

 

Infuriating 

[Carmel Corn]

53 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Thursday, September 8, 2022. NFL season kickoff, Bills at Chiefs. Prove me wrong.

Rematch! Something that PO's me is why are we always facing KC at Arrowhead vs. Orchard Park during the regular season?  Seems more fair that we should not have to go to their place twice in a row in consecutive seasons?  I get it that we lost home field advantage in the playoffs, but I'm getting tired of seeing that place.

[Greg S]

2 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:

Rematch! Something that PO's me is why are we always facing KC at Arrowhead vs. Orchard Park during the regular season?  Seems more fair that we should not have to go to their place twice in a row in consecutive seasons?  I get it that we lost home field advantage in the playoffs, but I'm getting tired of seeing that place.

 

9-6 was the reason last night wasn't in OP.

[Lost]

1 minute ago, Carmel Corn said:

Rematch! Something that PO's me is why are we always facing KC at Arrowhead vs. Orchard Park during the regular season?  Seems more fair that we should not have to go to their place twice in a row in consecutive seasons?  I get it that we lost home field advantage in the playoffs, but I'm getting tired of seeing that place.

 

I agree, I would much rather play them at home.  But I think finding success there in week 5 this season has boosted Josh Allen's confidence in his ability to play them on the road.   Unlike the carousel of QBs we had the last 20 years, JA doesn't get rattled under pressure.

[Billsatlastin2018]

1 hour ago, Gene1973 said:

There are no gurantees, jusk ask Marino & Shula.

And here’s the rub for that HOF 13 second HCing FUBAR!

 

As per Eminem in ‘8 Mile’, when you get that ONE shot at the Brass Ring, you better take it- not blow it! 
 

ANY number of negative factors, including injury, retirement, trades, etc. get in the way of duplicating your supreme effort.
 

Seize the moment with victory. Otherwise, history will seal your fate.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I can't talk right now I'm so upset. I'm not ready to blame anyone. I just wanna cry alone where no one can see or hear me. The pain is real. 

 

This.  I don't think I've ever agreed with another thing you posted but...This.  Brudda.

 

9 hrs later and I'm still there

[Steptide]

Just woke up and I wanna cry litterally 

[BananaB]

26 minutes ago, boco357 said:

For a team that was borderline obsessed with short kickoff not to do in that situation. 

 

Ugh looked at future schedules and have to go to Arrowhead in 2022 and 2023.

Really? Are they ever come to Buffalo in regular season? 3 straight years we play them on the road. What about the Titans, seems we always play them on the road too

[SCBills]

Can’t get over Allen hype on the sidelines after everyone thought we slayed the dragon and were hosting the AFC CG.   
 

Only to have this defense rip everyone’s hearts out.  
 

Someone in another thread said “they hate this defense like they’re an opposing team”… and that’s honestly where I’m at today.  All he investment, all the disrespect cards played by Hyde/Poyer… I almost wish someone like Sullivan would go at them today.  They deserve to sit there and take it.  

[Rockpile233]

Man I feel down. Highest high to lowest low.

 

Letting both of their primary play makers run completely free in wide open space is sickening. I cannot believe how badly the coaching staff failed us fans.

[Fan in Chicago]

Its morning and ~11 hours later - feels worse than it did last night. We had it, we had it, dammit!!! Its always something that stops us from winning the big ones. 

 

Its going to be a miserable morning and week. 

Edited January 24, 2022 by Fan in Chicago

[Coffeesforclosers]

When your QB throws for 329 and 4 TDs, then the O is not part of the problem.

 

Now I don't know what information led to the decision to protect the sidelines with zone coverages and let the best YAC team in the NFL run the middle of the field.  But it was the wrong one.  And I don't know what the situational decision making process was, but whoever thought it was a good idea to give free releases to receivers at any point...well they were wrong too.  These perspectives do not require hindsight when you're talking about the Chiefs.

 

To win the game, we had to keep the clock running, and keep the chiefs from scoring.  They had all their TOs and the best YAC receivers in the game.  They had 13 seconds.  A sack basically wins the game, but our whole DL system is designed to generate pressures rather than sacks. 

 

Drop everybody into coverage, and get physical at the LOS.  The Chiefs aren't winning any jump balls, that's not who they are.  Make Mahomes stand back there and pat the ball, because time is your friend.  Leaving the hash marks open (ie, just what we did...) is an easy read for an easy throw and catch. Which defeats our goal of making everything take as much time as possible.

 

That situational coaching was piss poor.  It identified the right objectives, then for some reason completely ignore the Chiefs strengths as an O, and their available resources (players, time outs).  May as well have thrown out a red carpet for the FG team.

 

 

 

 

[Steptide]

I have no doubt daboll will be hired as a head coach, Frazier on the other hand.... 

 

I just can't imagine a team watchjng those last 13 seconds on defense and a team being like "Ya let's hire that defensive coordinator!" 

[BillsFan130]

Such a comedy of errors by McDermott and Frazier.

 

it's hard to believe these guys are professional coaches with some of their decisions late in the game last night.

 

Just so inexcusable 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

It seems like no other team loses a game like that. 13 seconds. But this team not only does lose that type of game, they have done it that way several times. When can it just NOT be us? When can we be the team that ends up showing another fan base pity for being on the wrong end? I guess the comeback game? But Christ. Enough is enough 

[Nitro]

2 hours ago, Sharky7337 said:

No-one is gonna hire Frazier after that performance. 

He needs to retire

[Buddy Hix]

McD and Frazier failed so miserably and wasted one of the greatest opportunities to finally bring a title to Buffalo. It's another very tough day to be a Bills fan. 

And I don't really think McD or Frazier can improve. They had an entire season to adjust and they got completely overmatched again. So it feels like this team is destined to be 2nd best for years to come.

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Buddy Hix said:

McD and Frazier failed so miserably and wasted one of the greatest opportunities to finally bring a title to Buffalo. It's another very tough day to be a Bills fan. 

And I don't really think McD or Frazier can improve. They had an entire season to adjust and they got completely overmatched again. So it feels like this team is destined to be 2nd best for years to come.

Yep.

 

In totality Mcd is a good coach, but I find he lets the big moments get the best of him. So many poor decisions yesterday.

 

Now Frazier?

 

I have never been a fan of him and I hope he is gone next year. Had enough of his conservative, vanilla play calling.