JPL7 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 https://www.insider.com/nfl-buffalo-bills-dont-do-squats-never-get-injured-playoffs-2022-1 "Super Bowl-contending Buffalo Bills cut squats from their workouts during the season — and trainers say that may explain why they're the least-injured team in the playoffs" This is interesting. 4 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Squats are the worst weightlifting exercise for your body in terms of long term side effects. 2 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Interesting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Why does that picture have Shaq Lawson in it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Yeah I mean it's a great strength exercise but fatigue throughout your legs while you're using every muscle to move in every direction, is going to put serious strain on the ligaments/tendons responsible for stabilizing that motion. For instance- treatment for most tendonitis is to strengthen the muscle parallel to the ligament. (I.e. for tennis elbow, you strengthen the forearms; for runner's knee you strengthen the hamstrings; for Achilles issues you strengthen the calves). Edited January 23, 2022 by BringBackFlutie 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Who likes squats?! Ugh they suck. Every time I get my leg routine … press, extension, curl, deadlift, and calf’s … sure KEEP THEM. but squats I just Axe. maybe do a few Hack Squats…but no more. good on them 😊. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Why does that picture have Shaq Lawson in it? Because he just rejoined the team, duh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Quote Buffalo faces the Kansas City Chiefs in the divisional round on Saturday without any injured starters. White is not a starter? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I'd comment on our number of leg injuries this year, but I'm not jinxing anything. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I've been saying for YEARS that NFL players are way over-pumped and tight--and that they need to focus less on weight lifting in general and more on stretching and flexibility. Sounds like we (among others) have caught onto this idea and it's helping. Look at how many guys injure themselves during non-contact! That's crazy and it shouldn't happen. But they are all so "tight".... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 In any context the NFL is a very competitive entity. As such, I'd just as soon that this remain a closely-held team secret. It's the one aspect of Belichick I agree on: you don't disclose a damn thing about your team, especially if it can benefit your opponents. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Squats are the worst weightlifting exercise for your body in terms of long term side effects. I agree. I cut squats from my workouts...um...37 years ago. Come to think of it, that's when I simply stopped working out. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I squat for my daily constitutional, that is all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 37 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Who likes squats?! Ugh they suck. Every time I get my leg routine … press, extension, curl, deadlift, and calf’s … sure KEEP THEM. but squats I just Axe. maybe do a few Hack Squats…but no more. good on them 😊. squats were always my favs....7 sets... until i tweaked my knee doing other things... never hurt myself doing heavy squats though. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 My wife has refused to do them for years 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Squats are the worst weightlifting exercise for your body in terms of long term side effects. Squats with bad form are definitely bad. Squats with proper form are excellent for long term health, just don't be a fool and think you can squat heavy long term. Medium intensity Squats done with good form are all that average people need. I get why athletes push the weight as it improves their explosiveness, only surpassed by power cleans. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Of course DURING the season there is so much physical grind that you can't push it. But as the article clearly says, it's for in-season. Off season it's another story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I'm sure they're doing plenty of other leg exercises during the season, so they're keeping the strength & mass up but not doing an extremely harsh exercise. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Well, I wonder about this article. First, how many other teams don't do squats during the season? Second, maybe a little research would help. He says the Bills don't have any injured starters. They just have injured bench players, like White and Feliciano. Okay, maybe Feliciano is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Well, I wonder about this article. First, how many other teams don't do squats during the season? Second, maybe a little research would help. He says the Bills don't have any injured starters. They just have injured bench players, like White and Feliciano. Okay, maybe Feliciano is back. Did White do squats? Ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Just now, Doc said: Did White do squats? Ever? Who knows? Mostly, when I went to the article, I was amused at how much stuff is written just to fill up space and catch your attention. Nobody knows what the Bills' philosophy about squats has to do with their injury report. All I know is that I'm going to take too seriously an article that says the Bills have no injured starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I trust their knowledge on this kind of stuff. And it makes sense to me. Squats can be dangerous and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the off the field injuries that happen during workouts that we hear about are due to squats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: Squats with bad form are definitely bad. Squats with proper form are excellent for long term health, just don't be a fool and think you can squat heavy long term. Medium intensity Squats done with good form are all that average people need. I get why athletes push the weight as it improves their explosiveness, only surpassed by power cleans. Agreed but problem is most associate barbell squats with needing to lift heavy. The worst part about squats is the pressure it puts on lower back even with perfect form. You really need a good core to avoid long term back issues. Core strength is something that should be made mandatory before getting into compound lifts such as squats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Exercise and nutrition are almost like talking religion or politics. People who are into exercise feel very very strongly that their way is right. Lots of ways to work the legs... Some athletes do step ups instead of squats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: Look at how many guys injure themselves during non-contact! That's crazy and it shouldn't happen. But they are all so "tight".... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Hopefully the Bills squat several times on the Chiefs tonight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I like hearing about peoples leg routines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, JPL7 said: https://www.insider.com/nfl-buffalo-bills-dont-do-squats-never-get-injured-playoffs-2022-1 "Super Bowl-contending Buffalo Bills cut squats from their workouts during the season — and trainers say that may explain why they're the least-injured team in the playoffs" This is interesting. Football players are notoriously bad weight lifters, but they do it with really heavy weights. It’s bot hugely surprising that they are having less injuries after taking a bunch of load off their low backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Agreed but problem is most associate barbell squats with needing to lift heavy. The worst part about squats is the pressure it puts on lower back even with perfect form. You really need a good core to avoid long term back issues. Core strength is something that should be made mandatory before getting into compound lifts such as squats. I agree, core strength is the one most important thing to long term health. When people look like they are doing good mornings and claim they are squatting, yes we have a big problem, happens way too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Ok I have a little experience here as I’m in the IFBB. Squats are one of the best overall mass builders for the lower body hands down. Done correctly, there is little risk of injury. The key being done correctly. I doubt many teams squat with anything other than light weight during the season not because of injury risk but because of recovery time. When you squat with intensity whether it’s moderate or heavy weight (relatively speaking) it takes DAYS to recover. You aren’t going to have a game on Sunday, recover Monday and Tuesday, then have a moderate resistance training session on a Wednesday/Thursday. Your legs won’t be back to full strength in time for the next game. I doubt these guys do any moderate/heavy lifting of any body part in season. I’m sure they do resistance training but with the beating they are putting on their bodies week to week its all about recovery and getting your muscles healed and ready to fire again the next game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Didn't Spencer Brown injured his back doing squats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: White is not a starter? Not since week 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, JPL7 said: https://www.insider.com/nfl-buffalo-bills-dont-do-squats-never-get-injured-playoffs-2022-1 "Super Bowl-contending Buffalo Bills cut squats from their workouts during the season — and trainers say that may explain why they're the least-injured team in the playoffs" This is interesting. At my age....I regularly do "squats" twice a day. Office bathrooms suck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, bills6969 said: Squats are the worst weightlifting exercise for your body in terms of long term side effects. Old news, I knew this 50 years ago. A FULL squat is dangerous to your knee/cartlidge. Partial squats may, however, help those muscle groups some. Just don't go all the way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, bills6969 said: Squats are the worst weightlifting exercise for your body in terms of long term side effects. I did them for years and now have bad knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, JPL7 said: Bills cut squats from their workouts during the season 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Doc said: Why does that picture have Shaq Lawson in it? because he was a day 1 squatter, right off the bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said: I like hearing about peoples leg routines. I want to see photographic evidence though before I give my view on whose is most effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: Squats with bad form are definitely bad. Squats with proper form are excellent for long term health, just don't be a fool and think you can squat heavy long term. Medium intensity Squats done with good form are all that average people need. I get why athletes push the weight as it improves their explosiveness, only surpassed by power cleans. This makes sense to me. I think heavy lifting in general is a bad thing for anyone once you reach your 30s. I’m a big fan of body weight exercises at this point, but yes I do use weights as well, just lighter ones for more reps. I am extremely grateful though that I lifted heavy throughout my teenage years and my youth. It makes sense at that age, but even then, like you said, good form is a must and even then you have to be smart about it and know your body. Edited January 23, 2022 by Victory Formation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Whatever happened to squatter rights? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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