Apocalypse Nuts Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Complain all you want about officiating, coaching, whatever. It doesn't change anything. We finally have good coaching and good FO management. Take a step back and look at the big picture. F'ing Whaley isn't in charge anymore and we should appreciate the F out of that. Everyone needs to take a PILL and relax. Geez! Have you completely forgotten the last almost 20 years of ineptitude? We have it so good right now. Shut the F up and enjoy the ride you crybabies! 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Funny I said last week in the postgame thread that I would think the odds gotta swing in our favor in these close heartbreakers we’re dealing with….. but here we are again. 5 losses by a combined 23. Geez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, BernieBill said: Man, I been watching football a long time ... when the DB doesn't turn his head in time, it's a penalty, sorry for injecting a little reality into the discussion. Sad in this case, but clearly true. Evans might've sold it (hey, that's a skill for WRs just like it is for James Harden jumping into defenders), but that doesn't get a call if the DB turns toward the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Our QB is something really really special. I know some folks on the gameday thread wanted him cut in the first quarter, but my god what a gutsy performance. Getting hit almost every play, playing with a bum wheel for a good chunk of the game and he went 36/54 for 308 with 2TDs and ran for 109. Yes he had a pick. With our worthless offensive line, that was one hell of a performance. Such heart, such guts - some other players on the team should feel ashamed after watching him Edited December 13, 2021 by stevewin 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I hope Brady just comes out and says “ we knew the middle would be open all game, it has been my entire career, so we took advantage of the obvious and won.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: Funny I said last week in the postgame thread that I would think the odds gotta swing in our favor in these close heartbreakers we’re dealing with….. but here we are again. 5 losses by a combined 23. Geez. I would put forth coaching is as much a cause for all those close losses as anything. It's a handicap we have to overcome, and it's a problem. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, par73 said: Bills needed to close the deal in regulation (despite officiating). Too many games this year they had a chance at the end, and came up short. This season's epitaph. Thats the real surprise this season. Every close game the Bills have done exactly what they needed to do to lose, no more and no less. The thing we usually refer to as being ‘Billsy’. This has not been a previous rain of McDermott squads. Not sure if it’s just incredible flakiness, arrogance, randomness, league bias and/or incompetence or how much of each, but it’s getting annoying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: If I'm McDermott, I'm getting fined by the league because I'm going ballistic in the press conference about the refs. You have to stand up for your team sometimes McPuss doesn't have the stones to do it. That Diggs non call was egregious. And if Brady threw that ball 6 flags come out. The NFL is officially the WWE. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Can we be done with Hughes now? I love the guy and think he was great but now he's just getting too old to finish plays. Agreed. Right now he should be the minimal usage guy in any rotation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, BernieBill said: Man, I been watching football a long time ... when the DB doesn't turn his head in time, it's a penalty, sorry for injecting a little reality into the discussion. So why wasn’t your reality called against Diggs multiple times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, appoo said: Sure but more than 1 thing can be right Yeah….I don’t think they were better. I thought they were better for about half the game. Then they choked and we came back, should have won, but the refs didn’t give us any calls. Blatant penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: If I'm McDermott, I'm getting fined by the league because I'm going ballistic in the press conference about the refs. You have to stand up for your team sometimes The only way to avoid the pitfalls of sucky NFL refereeing is to dominate your opponent. Our team did absolutely nothing in the first half of this game. McD can burst an artery over this for all I care, but when the team has done it's job then practically nobody talks about the refereeing that we all know is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Preliminary weather forecast for next sunday is a balmy 48 and 5 to 10 mph winds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Hughes and Addison they used a 1st and 2nd for already. Sanders I don’t care he can sit now and let Gabe Davis take his snaps (as he should have ALL season). We’re in trouble if our hopes of having a good pass rush are in the hands of Epenesa, Groot and Basham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: Sad in this case, but clearly true. Evans might've sold it (hey, that's a skill for WRs just like it is for James Harden jumping into defenders), but that doesn't get a call if the DB turns toward the ball. It’s hard to turn with your arm being held Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: Sad in this case, but clearly true. Evans might've sold it (hey, that's a skill for WRs just like it is for James Harden jumping into defenders), but that doesn't get a call if the DB turns toward the ball. No the Wr pulled him into him and Wallace was turning his head probably intercepted if evens doesn’t reach around pull him In Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, DCofNC said: I hope Brady just comes out and says “ we knew the middle would be open all game, it has been my entire career, so we took advantage of the obvious and won.” Just barely. How can you hang your hat on that. Get real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, BernieBill said: Anyone know of any good YouTube Bills postgame? I'm on this Cover 1 thing now but ... Hashtag sports 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, appoo said: Bad call, but you also can’t let Gronk get 15 on a 2nd and 17, while the OC completely pantsed our defense on the TD. That was an amazing playcall he was saving all day It's basically what KC did to Edmunds all day in the AFC Championship...Make him react and make a play on a crosser behind him... Anyway...Oh well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzonzo Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 McDermott need to go ballistic with officiating today. diggs.jpg.jfif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 It really pains me to see all these pussies on this board after losses. You have no idea what it's been like since 1999. Exactly why I need to stop even reading your weak crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, Bangarang said: We’re in trouble if our hopes of having a good pass rush are in the hands of Epenesa, Groot and Basham. Well that’s on the HC and GM. They spent into the position group that was aging. I couldn’t care less anyway. Build an OL that protects Josh and he makes up for Bad Defense (see Tampa today). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Skip Bayless better be convinced now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, SUNTANBILLS FAN said: No the Wr pulled him into him and Wallace was turning his head probably intercepted if evens doesn’t reach around pull him In Oh, I'm not arguing that in some kind of totality of the circumstances thing you're right. But the ref in real time is gonna see the obvious thing and not what we see in a slow motion replay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, BernieBill said: Man, I been watching football a long time ... when the DB doesn't turn his head in time, it's a penalty, sorry for injecting a little reality into the discussion. That unofficial requirement is applied to some teams and not to others. As we just witnessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, Gene1973 said: I'd have to watch the replays again, but iirc, Wallace did not turn back toward the ball. Doesn't matter if the WR slows up and causes the collision. A smart QB & WR will intentionally cause that contact if the DB is out of position and doesn't turn his head. I'd have to watch the Diggs play again to see if that DB had his head turned. Wallace was turning his head and then evens whos has his arm around Wallace pulls him in. It’s hard to turn your head when your arm is being pulled in 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: Skip Bayless better be convinced now!! He won’t be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, appoo said: Bad call, but you also can’t let Gronk get 15 on a 2nd and 17, while the OC completely pantsed our defense on the TD. That was an amazing playcall he was saving all day I'd say it was self inflicted both times. Taron 1-1 in the flat to tackle Gronk, and maintained outside leverage, but he missed the tackle and nobody was inside (looked like their should have been). Game winning play we simply didn't get home with a 5 man pressure, and Dane left his man to pick up the stacked cross coming into him. Tremaine looks like he's to blame when he's intended to take away the middle and took a step with the double cross. Hardly some secret play by Leftwich, we were out executed on a typical man-beater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 LOOOLLLLLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Apocalypse Nuts said: It really pains me to see all these pussies on this board after losses. You have no idea what it's been like since 1999. Exactly why I need to stop even reading your weak crap. If 1999 is your benchmark then you didn't live through the 1970s and most of the 1980s squads. THAT ***** was terrible, and the drought, except for its longevity, pales in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: He’s got to go, no reason to keep him, he’s killing us. Yeah disagreeing, 6 points against Jacksonville, 10 pts New England, 3 points in Tampa first half, all play calling and execution debacles. Hes responsible, but enjoy the losses… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: I'd have to watch the replays again, but iirc, Wallace did not turn back toward the ball. Doesn't matter if the WR slows up and causes the collision. A smart QB & WR will intentionally cause that contact if the DB is out of position and doesn't turn his head. I'd have to watch the Diggs play again to see if that DB had his head turned. The replays have literally been posted multiple times in this thread. Wallace was pulled into the WR by the WR. You cant turn around if the WR wraps his arm around you and pulls you into his body. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Fades never work anyway... Throw to the middle or run a draw to Singletary there. Still should have been DPI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Crazy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: How do you blame the refs for that first possession in OT? 3 and out and Diggs again look confused and for the flag. Diggs was literally held by the jersey on that play in OT. Watch the replay. The holding was clear and obvious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Thats not what you said. What you are actually saying here though is the Bills need to outplay the referees which is a problem in the first place. Referees should not be deciding games period. If they call something one way. It needs to be called the other way. If they let it go one way. They need to let it go the other way. 4th and goal defender had Diggs arm wrapped as the defender was falling down. 3rd down in OT Wallace was pulled into the defender by the defender. The refs decided the game period. I don't care if its on the road. I don't care if the team is playing against Tom Brady. It shouldn't happen period Your original argument was the team needs better talent so the game is kept out of reach. The game was not kept out of reach by a team with better talent. The refs literally kept the less talented team from winning the football game. Thats what happened. Two straight agonizing losses. Monday night I felt they just got physically beat so while I didn't care for the result the way it all played out was pretty much fair and square. The ref's called a straight and fair game and more or less went unnoticed most of the night. Today is different. The refs just wouldn't take the flag out of their pockets when the Bucs defensive backs were all over the Bills receivers. Let go a couple critical calls late but have no problem throwing the overtime flag when the contact was consistent with what they were letting go against the Bills. And Brady just seems to lead a charmed life as a constant beneficiary of being on the "right" side of all the inconsistent and questionable help from the officials. Allen played his guts out tonight and both the offense and defense rallied around his effort and will. What hurts is the ref's took it all away because they just wouldn't call it fair. I think the team takes on a don't get mad get even approach over the rest of the season and plays their best ball of the year down the stretch to a play off spot. Frankly, I won't mind if they have to play on the road because for some reason they seem to play better away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: The replays have literally been posted multiple times in this thread. Wallace was pulled into the WR by the WR. You cant turn around if the WR wraps his arm around you and pulls you into his body. I thought I saw his head turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertig0 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Yes, finally someone with common sense. Aka "someone who agrees with my pessimistic narrative". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, Gene1973 said: Yes, finally someone with common sense. Do you not see the blatant penalties? that’s exactly what being screwed is. Yes, Beane and McD screwed us too….. but that doesn’t make what the refs did ok. It’s ridiculous and even more ridiculous that not one person will be held accountable. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Iverwig said: How about you ignore my posts then. You’re exhausting with your thumbs down on every post that criticizes the HC. I have my opinion and I know what I see if you don’t like it then carry on Mrs. McD. It’s not that you just say what you have to say and move on. It’s that you continue to post the same material like a nagging wife or gf. It’s exhausting. saying he needs to be fired after going to the afc championship is just…. Low iq stuff. I will keep thumbs downing because I don’t agree. So how about you just ignore my thumbing down. Yeah? sounds good. Good talk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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