Week 14 Gameday Bills at Buccaneers Postgame thread

[Do The Reich Thing]

2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

The DB was looking at the ball. Handfighting there is not going to draw a flag.

ARE YOU BLIND? HE IS TUGGING HIS JERSEY

[Meatloaf63]

5 minutes ago, Governor said:

I love how folks are fixated on a few bad calls but not the huge TD pass to win the game. Lol.

Because if the proper calls are made in regulation there is no overtime touchdown are you having trouble understanding that?

[MPT]

Just now, BernieBill said:

Blame the refs for McDermott weakly kicking a 21-yd FG ... blame the refs for the Bills scoring 3 first half points ... blame the refs for McDermott punting w/ 2 mins to go in the 3rd quarter ... c'mon man.

 

It was far from a perfect game by the Bills, but no team ever has a perfect game. You shouldn't have to worry about beating both the other team and the refs. Even with all those mistakes, we. still would have won fairly easily on equal playing ground.

[CincyBillsFan]

28 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

Diggs looks hurt or something. Barely any YAC and two weeks in a row where he isn’t breaking on the ball. I know that won’t be popular but I would have went with three other guys there on the 3rd and two. 

Also on the long incomplete pass where Diggs was held I think he scores a TD if instead of complaining and throwing his hands up he just tracks the ball.  Allen threw it within a couple of feet and Diggs seemed surprised it was that close.

 

 

[Governor]

Just now, Bakin said:

Another highlight of Tremaine whoafully lagging behind, his dreads dragging him to the ground. I really like the kid…maybe he’s out of position…but he’s the biggest liability on the field from what I can see. 

He’s very slow. It’s not his assignment to stop the run and apparently it’s not his assignment to play the pass either. I see a below average skill set physically and mentally.

[TheCockSportif]

1 minute ago, Dan said:

I think you go for the FG and the tie every time in that situation.   Now... the play calls that led up to that 4th and 2, I think were highly debatable.  IMO, we should have taken advantage of Josh’s legs down there   

This game was a gut check, unfortunately, and the team needed to lay it all on the line.  The first half was an abortion, and I'm being kind.  The second half was neat, and I wondered why the first half wasn't like that.  You play the game to win, and I would have a LOT more respect for the decision making and level of play in this game had they fallen short after a few ballsy moves rather than what was actually produced.

[ganesh]

27 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

He has yet to win a close game with the ball in his hand this season

He needs to finish one….just one 

He had that chance in 4 of the 5 games....  @Ten,  @Jags,   NE and @Tampa.     Our play calling once inside the red zone has been a Joke and we choked in all those games when inside the red zone

[Heitz]

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

We never win a game from behind. The only game this team seems to win is when the front run from the start. Somehow once we get down, it’s just over. We can get back, make it interesting but never close the deal. It’s ridiculous 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 minute ago, Heitz said:

 

Most people missed it during the game and the broadcast crew missed it too.  He was rolled up on and grabbed his ankle on the first TD drive.  My guess he has a high ankle and gutted his way through the rest of the game.  He's a man and a winner unlike the gutless HC. 

[BernieBill]

People seem to love the fact that Diggs is giving away big plays past 2 games ... sorry for pointing out the fact he lost sight of a potentially huge play and deserves some criticism.

[Billever76]

3 minutes ago, Groin said:

A game has two halves though.  Don't rest your fate in the hands of known terrible officiating.  And having written that, I remember many people saying "let them play" over various PI calls over the years.

In a league of parity its blatant what happened...the refs made sure the red hot 2nd half bills would not succeed....100% blatant....and no one can expect to beat brady and the bucs plus the refs in Tampa 😂

[Bferra13]

3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

The DB was looking at the ball. Handfighting there is not going to draw a flag.

Handfighting lol... he's pulling off his jersey. Get some glasses... or actually maybe you should seek employment as a ref?? Someone get Gene an application.

[BillsFan130]

3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

When will fans ever learn that refs sucking is part of the game? If after a loss, you want to blame the refs, it generally means you didn't kick the other teams' ass. Fix the ass kicking part and you don't have to worry about the refs.

 

This inconsistent officiating is not going away you know...

What you're saying is true, but it's not exactly easy to go on the road and "kick the defending super bowl champions ass".

 

I am Saying the bills lost cause the refs.

 

But a lot of NFL games go down to the wire and it's hard to overcome a lot of "50/50" calls that seemingly all go against you, 

[Iverwig]

5 minutes ago, CaliBills said:

It’s not that you just say what you have to say and move on. It’s that you continue to post the same material like a nagging wife or gf. It’s exhausting. 
 

saying he needs to be fired after going to the afc championship is just…. Low iq stuff. 

 

I will keep thumbs downing because I don’t agree. So how about you just ignore my thumbing down.   Yeah?

 

sounds good. Good talk 
 

 

You replied to my post and you continue to reply. This is a message board and guess what quite a few posters and the Bills postgame show are criticizing McD. I don’t have a quarter of the posts on here but yet you find time to criticize mine.  It’s not low iq stuff because you disagree. The team is soft and not performing. I see what I see and it’s only a matter of time. Btw, I could care less about your thumbs downs so ignore my posts and carry on.

[BernieBill]

2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Also on the long incomplete pass where Diggs was held I think he scores a TD if instead of complaining and throwing his hands up he just tracks the ball.  Allen threw it within a couple of feet and Diggs seemed surprised it was that close.

 

 

That's exactly right, thank you ... Diggs is bitching at refs instead of finishing the play.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Also on the long incomplete pass where Diggs was held I think he scores a TD if instead of complaining and throwing his hands up he just tracks the ball.  Allen threw it within a couple of feet and Diggs seemed surprised it was that close.

 

 

I thought so too in the moment but the replay showed the ball was thrown pretty far wide of where Diggs was

[Billever76]

Just now, Billever76 said:

In a league of parity its blatant what happened...the refs made sure the red hot 2nd half bills would not succeed....100% blatant....and no one can expect to beat brady and the bucs plus the refs in Tampa 😂

Problem is the refs let them play when it came to tampa on diggs and davis...yet called the PI on Bills even when it was on evans 😂

[TheCockSportif]

Just now, Billever76 said:

In a league of parity its blatant what happened...the refs made sure the red hot 2nd half bills would not succeed....100% blatant....and no one can expect to beat brady and the bucs plus the refs in Tampa 😂

Correct, and that's why you don't take the first half off.  Understand the dynamic, play good football.  It's insane that 2021 is kinda like that basketball that will bounce, but you know that it's under inflated -- and you can't find the pump and needle.

[JGMcD2]

5 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

The DB was looking at the ball. Handfighting there is not going to draw a flag.

It’s handfighting when you’re clearly grabbing a handful of another player’s jersey and you can see his shoulder pads? 
 

Give me a break, Gene. 

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, ganesh said:

He had that chance in 4 of the 5 games....  @Ten,  @Jags,   NE and @Tampa.     Our play calling once inside the red zone has been a Joke and we choked in all those games when inside the red zone

The punt fake ............. we're down 3 scores like TB didn't think we might try a punt fake there.  Why wouldn't you just try to get 2 yards with your actual offense instead of some gimmick play that the defense probably easily sniffs out.

[BeastMaster]

2 minutes ago, Governor said:

He’s very slow. It’s not his assignment to stop the run and apparently it’s not his assignment to play the pass either. I see a below average skill set physically and mentally.

Edmunds is the posterchild for a mental midget when it comes to the game of football.

 

FACT

[BananaB]

5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

These 3 young guys so far are disappointing. We're definitely saying goodbye to players like Hughes, Addison,  Star and Butler. I'm starting to think we may never surround Josh with any good trench players. Especially with how many times Beane has whiffed in these 2 areas.  We're lucky Josh didn't get destroyed today (besides his sprained ankle).

I think a big part of their problems is that they hardly see the field. Oliver was the same way and he’s finally starting to look the part. We’re hanging onto guys that aren’t producing in the meantime but are getting the nod because of experience 

[RyanC883]

53 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

Edmounds ...

 

 

he better be benched next game.  McD needs to stop this nice guy nonsence and send a message 

[IronyAbounds]

There has to be a reason the Bills are 0-5 in games decided by one score.

[CaliBills]

Just now, Iverwig said:

You replied to my post and you continue to reply. This is a message board and guess what quite a few posters and the Bills postgame show are criticizing McD. I don’t have a quarter of the posts on here but yet you find time to criticize mine.  It’s not low iq stuff because you disagree. The team is soft and not performing. I see what I see and it’s only a matter of time. Btw, I could care less about your thumbs downs so ignore my posts and carry on.

Haha ok big guy

 

good talk. Keep on doing your thing. 
 

you know. I hope you get what you wish for and the bills fire McD and we get another 25 years of not winning anything…. Good luck on that 

[CincyBillsFan]

Just now, Ethan in Portland said:

I thought so too in the moment but the replay showed the ball was thrown pretty far wide of where Diggs was

I'll wait for better replays but if Diggs doesn't throw his arms up and looks around and runs through the ball it's a TD. 

[Livinginthepast]

1 minute ago, Gene1973 said:

The DB was looking at the ball. Handfighting there is not going to draw a flag.

You are absolutely right. If The DB doesnt look its PI, However, Why is the NFL's new interpretation of appropriate pass defense seem to be you can smother a receiver and have you hands all over him as long as you are looking at the ball. In years past its PI all day long.

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Gene1973 said:

They also lost because thy played poorly for a good portion of the game.

Oh I agree

[BernieBill]

1 minute ago, Maine-iac said:

The punt fake ............. we're down 3 scores like TB didn't think we might try a punt fake there.  Why wouldn't you just try to get 2 yards with your actual offense instead of some gimmick play that the defense probably easily sniffs out.

Yes, that play and the 21-yd FG ... time and time again, McDermott just ain't makin' the right calls at the most crucial moments.  

[Maine-iac]

Just watched Quinn turn the corner and drop Rogers.  When was the last time a Bill's DE just beat his man, turned the corner and dropped the QB.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I thought so too in the moment but the replay showed the ball was thrown pretty far wide of where Diggs was

Yea looked like the defender completely turned him around to me…brutal 

Edited December 13, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[97bills]

5 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

We have DE's who can't get to the QB and DT's who can't plug up the middle and stop the run (or get to the QB).  Everything that happens behind them starts with that.  If we actually got to the QB with our front 4 we wouldn't have so long and get burnt on passing routes that take 4 or 5 seconds to get open.  If we had even one player on the DL who beat his man on a regular basis everything else would be much easier.

This is so true, no one beats there man on 1/1 , sometimes you have to be able to drop 7 and still get Pressure, but we all no that nothing we can do till next year. P.S Addison and huges better be gone, I’m so tired of coach keeping old washed up players because he respects them. 

[SUNTANBILLS FAN]

4 minutes ago, BernieBill said:

People seem to love the fact that Diggs is giving away big plays past 2 games ... sorry for pointing out the fact he lost sight of a potentially huge play and deserves some criticism.

Did you not see they were mugging him stop saying crazy maybe you would like Zay Jones back

[TheCockSportif]

Just now, JGMcD2 said:

Wait so now it’s not handfighting? You admit he was tugging his jersey but the ref didn’t see it. 
 

You’re such a dumb, ignorant ***** that changes what you say constantly… because you’re a dumb, ignorant *****. 

It was definitely PI/holding (will look again later when I'm less pissed), but again, you can't rely on terrible officiating to be consistent.  You need to win handily, so when ***** like this hits the fan, you'll still win a ballgame.

[Pecos Bills]

2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

We have the luxury of slow motion replay. The ref does not. So he either didn't see that, or the NFL is rigged. The latter being conspiracy garbage IMO.

Or the latter being Gene is new to watching the NFL.

[Nextmanup]

2 minutes ago, IronyAbounds said:

There has to be a reason the Bills are 0-5 in games decided by one score.

Coaching.  In a tight game, coaching can make a difference between winning and losing.

 

 

[KOKBILLS]

1 minute ago, 97bills said:

This is so true, no one beats there man on 1/1 , sometimes you have to be able to drop 7 and still get Pressure, but we all no that nothing we can do till next year. P.S Addison and huges better be gone, I’m so tired of coach keeping old washed up players because he respects them. 

 

In retrospect the Bills kept a lot of guys they should have moved on from this past off season...

 

It's always best to be a year early than a year late...

[TheCockSportif]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

Coaching.  In a tight game, coaching can make a difference between winning and losing.

 

 

Coaching is right, but remember that a game has two halves, and I think that we all saw the first half.  In a league of parity, you need to play a full game and assume nothing until the game is over.  The Pats, a team that I deeply despise, understand this.  When will my favorite team understand this?

Edited December 13, 2021 by Groin

[Mat68]

Even though it was a loss im optimistic that this game might spark the team.  Second half was the first time they looked like a team since KC.  Got some dumpster fires and Ne.  Loss was tough but the that fight to get it in overtime was huge imo.