Did the Jets game really prove anything????

[FilthyBeast]

2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Still smarting after the Jags game and yes it was great that the Bills "righted the ship".

 

But the question is whether the Jets are just so bad that the game really showed nothing?

 

Not trying to be confrontational, however still bothered by the Tennessee loss and what I thought was a ho hum performance vs. Miami and abysmal one vs. Jax.

 

Sunday will tell a lot.  

 

For any rational fan, no it proved nothing and shouldn't move the needle in terms of expectations of this team. I'm still deeply concerned about the fact this team has only one win against a team with a winning record and seems to struggle against most teams that have a few wins or more under their belt. And yes great teams usually have one hiccup along the way but still think the opening day loss against a very average at best Steelers team who just tied with the winless Lions at home is simply inexusable. And to need a second 'wake up' game against a very bad Jags team last week is very telling.

 

But this has been a weird season and it feels like whoever gets the hottest in Dec/Jan is going to win it all which you can argue just about half the league is in that bucket right now outside of a few teams currently riding momentum like the Pats and Titans.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, teef said:

they won a game they should have won.  that's good.  just keep getting wins.

 

At least we didn’t beat an NFC team. We all know what a terrible disaster that can be!

 

 

 

It’s a win. Now let’s go get the next one. The last game, whether it be a win or loss, doesn’t prove anything in terms of the next game. Just look at the last few weeks. 

[ProcessTruster]

With Mims, Becton, Mayes, Wilson etc etc all out, the Jets put a pretty thin roster out there Sunday.   I was in row 15 and Jets looked slow and bad. That game proved nothing. 

[What a Tuel]

Its posts like these that prove certain people arent going to be happy no matter what they do.

 

Its a long season and there seems to be a group of anticipatory people waiting to gleefully say "see? same old bills hurr hurr hurr"

 

Maybe they will be, maybe they won't, but you can tell there is some satisfaction extracted from belittling the team.

[Eastport bills]

The Jets game was meaningful in the respect that it gave the Bills a clear picture of what they are when they give Josh a clean pocket and provide the threat of a running attack. It was a confidence builder at a time that they needed it.

[MJS]

This is what I said before the game. The Bills were in a lose-lose situation. If you beat the Jets, even blow them out, fans will just say that the Jets suck and will dismiss the win. If you lose, obviously it's a bad loss.

 

And you are fulfilling that prophecy.

[RoyBatty is alive]

Did the Jets game prove anything?

 

Yeah ok.

 

So lets say the Bills had lost, then would the game have "proven anything"?

[ColoradoBills]

4 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Still smarting after the Jags game and yes it was great that the Bills "righted the ship".

 

But the question is whether the Jets are just so bad that the game really showed nothing?

 

Not trying to be confrontational, however still bothered by the Tennessee loss and what I thought was a ho hum performance vs. Miami and abysmal one vs. Jax.

 

Sunday will tell a lot.  

 

So it seems to me that when the Bills lose you don't like it as much as when they win.

If that is your point I agree with half of it.  I don't like losses.  Never have and never will. 

[Heitz]

2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

For any rational fan, no it proved nothing and shouldn't move the needle in terms of expectations of this team.

 

Now that I've gotten my eyeballs back in their sockets after they rolled so hard they were in my skull, I would say...

 

1 hour ago, Augie said:

It’s a win. Now let’s go get the next one. The last game, whether it be a win or loss, doesn’t prove anything in terms of the next game. Just look at the last few weeks. 

 

And then I'd look to this cat for my next thought...

 

28 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

Its posts like these that prove certain people arent going to be happy no matter what they do.

 

Its a long season and there seems to be a group of anticipatory people waiting to gleefully say "see? same old bills hurr hurr hurr"

 

Maybe they will be, maybe they won't, but you can tell there is some satisfaction extracted from belittling the team.

 

Effen A Cotton, Effen A.

 

[ClemsonBills]

What I learned is this offense will crush you if you decide to play man

[Patrick Duffy]

There's really nothing to prove, for now anyways. Bills obviously have shown how strong they are. If there's something left for them to prove, I would say getting to the SB and winning it. 

[Just in Atlanta]

I'd pose this question using the same logic,

Did the Jags game prove anything?

[Scott7975]

It showed that the Bills are 6-3.  The next game will show that the Bills are either 7-3 or 6-4.  Im sure your line of thinking and people that are generally negative will be something like this... If the Bills lose then the Bills suck and the season is over.  If the Bills win then the Colts are all of a sudden just another bad team.

 

Like the guy above me said.... If destroying the Jets proved nothing then neither did losing to the Jags.

Edited November 16, 2021 by Scott7975

[BillsfanAZ]

I think what this season has proved in the NFL is that no team is to be taken lightly. Key injuries can derail teams. The Bills are not going to blow out every team. I think fans got spoiled last season. In years past a blow out was a welcome treat and now it is expected. The Bills were starving for a 300 yard passer and now are disappointed when Allen throws for less. 

[Billsfan1972]

2 hours ago, What a Tuel said:

Its posts like these that prove certain people arent going to be happy no matter what they do.

 

Its a long season and there seems to be a group of anticipatory people waiting to gleefully say "see? same old bills hurr hurr hurr"

 

Maybe they will be, maybe they won't, but you can tell there is some satisfaction extracted from belittling the team.

I asked a question as my concern is that this was the Jets.  When I posted concerns in how the Bills played vs. Miami, was told to quit belly aching.  Then came Jax.

 

Sorry this I think is worthy to discuss.

[oldmanfan]

Yes.  Next question.

[teef]

10 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I asked a question as my concern is that this was the Jets.  When I posted concerns in how the Bills played vs. Miami, was told to quit belly aching.  Then came Jax.

 

Sorry this I think is worthy to discuss.

out of all the posts responding to you, this is the only one you reference?

[Greg S]

Any NFL win is a quality win. This isn't college where you watch Alabama or Georgia beat the crap out of some hapless team every week. Anyone can beat anyone in the NFL. This past weekend look at Washington and Tampa and SF and LA as examples of that. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

7 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Still smarting after the Jags game and yes it was great that the Bills "righted the ship".

 

But the question is whether the Jets are just so bad that the game really showed nothing?

 

Not trying to be confrontational, however still bothered by the Tennessee loss and what I thought was a ho hum performance vs. Miami and abysmal one vs. Jax.

 

Sunday will tell a lot.  

 

They beat who they were supposed to beat. Forget the Jags game. Every elite team this year has had a **** game against a team they were totally favored to beat. That's the NFL for you. 

 

We beat the Jets who beat the Titans who beat us. It's also not just about who you play, but when you play them. If given another chance at a rematch against Jax, they would get destroyed. Allen and the line had a bad game. It happens.

[JoshAllin]

Yeah. it proved the jags game was a fluke. Live and learn and don't take teams for granted

[John from Riverside]

8 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Still smarting after the Jags game and yes it was great that the Bills "righted the ship".

 

But the question is whether the Jets are just so bad that the game really showed nothing?

 

Not trying to be confrontational, however still bothered by the Tennessee loss and what I thought was a ho hum performance vs. Miami and abysmal one vs. Jax.

 

Sunday will tell a lot.  

Let me guess....if the bills should happen to win on Sunday.....then the next game will tell a lot....

[2003Contenders]

Not sure if the OP is mentally challenged or just being a troll.

 

Regardless, I will take the bait. The win proves many things:

 

1. The importance of rookie OT Spencer Brown. He missed the Jacksonville game, which caused Williams (who is much better at RG this year than RT) to move outside and Ford (who should not be on the football field, period) to play RG. Both Brown and Williams were back in their desired spots and played quite well against the Jets, whose DL is not bad. Without pressure in his face, Josh was much more effective this week than he was against Jacksonville when the protections broke down quite often.

 

2. The importance of TE Dawson Knox. Knox did not have a stellar game by any stretch of the imagination in terms of stats. However, he was quite effective as a blocker, and his presence in the passing game forced the Jets defense to account for him. That, of course, meant more room underneath for the RBs. He was out against the Jags -- and their defense was not worried in the slightest about Sweeney.

 

3. The importance of presenting the threat of a running game -- even if the running game itself is not especially effective. In Jacksonville the Bills really didn't even try to run the ball. Against the Jets they stayed committed to it. Eventually the rushing attack proved to be successful with four different players recording a rushing TD. It also opened things up for play action passing, where Josh was lethal.

 

4. The importance of Matt Breida. Maybe there is enough room on the game-day roster to ensure that MB remains active. He brought an added dimension that neither Moss nor Singletary possess.

 

5. The importance of ball security. Against the Jags the Bills lost the turnover battle 3-1. Against the Jets, they won it 5-2. 

 

6. The importance of receivers catching the ball when it hits them in the hands. Beasley and Davis had critical drops in the Jacksonville game. Both caught pretty much every catchable pass against the Jets. Davis, in fact, made a couple of sensational receptions against the Jets.

 

7. The importance of a smart game plan -- and proper overall execution. Kudos to the coordinators for putting together much better game plans against the Jets than they did the week before against the Jags. In fairness, LF did fine against the Jags, as his defense held them to just 9 points despite the turnovers and overall lack of success of the offense. BD made much better adjustments this week than he did against the Jags and was smart to stay patient with the running game.

 

8. The reality that all NFL teams -- even the worst -- still have uber talent. That's why anything can happen on any given Sunday. These same Jets also beat the Bengals and Titans. The Bucs just lost to the WFT. A week ago we lost to the Jags. It happens.

 

So, yes, the victory over the Jets proves MANY things.

[Alphadawg7]

8 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Still smarting after the Jags game and yes it was great that the Bills "righted the ship".

 

But the question is whether the Jets are just so bad that the game really showed nothing?

 

Not trying to be confrontational, however still bothered by the Tennessee loss and what I thought was a ho hum performance vs. Miami and abysmal one vs. Jax.

 

Sunday will tell a lot.  

 

Yes it proved no one needs to think about the Jags game ever again.  Off day, it happens to everyone, this is the NFL.  

[What a Tuel]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I asked a question as my concern is that this was the Jets.  When I posted concerns in how the Bills played vs. Miami, was told to quit belly aching.  Then came Jax.

 

Sorry this I think is worthy to discuss.

 

Its fine but at the end of the day, I don't think you and many others aren't looking for honest opinions of the team.

 

Maybe you actually are - who knows.

 

I think a certain portion of our fan base gets giddy when the Bills don't live up to the hype and jump too quickly to the "the team is terrible - prove me wrong" mentality. It gets tired. I don't think every win defines the Bills and I dont think every loss does either. No one will care that we lost to the Jaguars if we won the super bowl, and no one will care that we have a positive record if we don't do anything post season. In the end just enjoy the ride.

[Billsfan1972]

2 hours ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Its fine but at the end of the day, I don't think you and many others aren't looking for honest opinions of the team.

 

Maybe you actually are - who knows.

 

I think a certain portion of our fan base gets giddy when the Bills don't live up to the hype and jump too quickly to the "the team is terrible - prove me wrong" mentality. It gets tired. I don't think every win defines the Bills and I dont think every loss does either. No one will care that we lost to the Jaguars if we won the super bowl, and no one will care that we have a positive record if we don't do anything post season. In the end just enjoy the ride.

I want the Bills to go 20-0......  Never happy with a loss.

 

I was not happy with the Dolphins game and completely disgusted by the Jags game.  Yes the Bills did way better vs. the Jets, just unsure if it was a good barometer, as their defense has been so bad the last 4 weeks, and thus I asked.

[HappyDays]

I don't take the result of the game as a sign of anything, but I do draw optimism from the different looks the offense presented. Not many teams will give us 3 TD drives in 1 quarter but the Bills installed a new offensive philosophy and after knocking off the rust suddenly looked more explosive than they have all year. The opponent doesn't matter. Only the Bills offense can beat the Bills offense. With the scheme we showed on Sunday I believe we can score on anyone.

[SinceThe70s]

15 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I want the Bills to go 20-0......  Never happy with a loss.

 

I was not happy with the Dolphins game and completely disgusted by the Jags game.  Yes the Bills did way better vs. the Jets, just unsure if it was a good barometer, as their defense has been so bad the last 4 weeks, and thus I asked.

 

Actually you are on record saying you'd be happier with a Bills loss with a 300 yard passing game from Josh than a Bills win without the 300 yard passing game. 

 

So for me this Jets game (and your post)  proved what I already knew - you just post negativity hoping for a reaction. I will admit that I look forward to seeing what negative spin you try to put on each win and each loss - I find it amusing.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

9 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

For any rational fan, no it proved nothing and shouldn't move the needle in terms of expectations of this team. I'm still deeply concerned about the fact this team has only one win against a team with a winning record and seems to struggle against most teams that have a few wins or more under their belt. And yes great teams usually have one hiccup along the way but still think the opening day loss against a very average at best Steelers team who just tied with the winless Lions at home is simply inexusable. And to need a second 'wake up' game against a very bad Jags team last week is very telling.

 

But this has been a weird season and it feels like whoever gets the hottest in Dec/Jan is going to win it all which you can argue just about half the league is in that bucket right now outside of a few teams currently riding momentum like the Pats and Titans.

 

Why don't people realize that the teams they beat have losing records BECAUSE THEY PLAYED THE BILLS 😡

 

And It didn't prove anything? It's a division win that is much needed w/ New England creeping up behind us.

 

Use your head, man. 😣

Edited November 17, 2021 by ChronicAndKnuckles

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

12 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Still smarting after the Jags game and yes it was great that the Bills "righted the ship".

 

But the question is whether the Jets are just so bad that the game really showed nothing?

 

Not trying to be confrontational, however still bothered by the Tennessee loss and what I thought was a ho hum performance vs. Miami and abysmal one vs. Jax.

 

Sunday will tell a lot.  

This is the “old Bills” mentality. We now have enough talent and depth that we don’t have to prove anything in terms of the teams we beat.

 

If we were on our A game, we will

beat every team in the league. 

[KeLLy1278]

It proved that the Bills can beat a team that they should beat.. and they beat them soundly.  It also proved that the Jets are truly pitiful.  

[Ethan in Cleveland]

I will take the click bait. 

 

The only thing it proved was McD can keep the distractions from affecting the players and he can get the team to regroup. Kudos to him.  Really nice job. 

 

The real proof will be this weekend. Home AFC game against a good but not great opponent. Its a must win if they want to still get the #1 seed.  A win keeps them on track. A loss and there is nothing to refute the narrative that the Bills can't beat the good teams. #1 defense needs a better showing than they had at Tennessee.  

[Aussie Joe]

Look.. all they can do is beat the opponent they are playing and the Bills certainly did that last weekend…
 

But what’s that means in the big picture…I think Kyle Brandt put it best when talking about  the jets game…

 

1. Do the Bills have a running game? We don’t know

 

2. Can the Bills stop a team with a running game? We don’t know 

 

We will probably  know after this week though…

 

 

[DCofNC]

It proved the Bills are a far superior team to the worst team in the NFL.  They were also coming off getting their ass kicked by the 2nd worst team in the NFL, so to me, no it proved absolutely nothing.

 

go beat a team with a winning record.

[TheBrownBear]

It proved that the Bills can beat the Jets easily in their own stadium - which is something the Titans couldn't do.

[JMF2006]

I think it proved you need to beat the opponent in front of you that week.

 

You don't play the record just ask the Titans the Cowgirls,Tampa Bay,Green Bay,KC ect ect ect.