Week 8: Dolphins at Bills

[CincyBillsFan]

14 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

Cover 1 did a video on the RZ stuff.

 

 

In a nutshell, Defenses are playing way more Zone against the Bills, and the Bills tear them up anyway between the 20s. Defenses basically never play man against us in the RZ anymore because Josh annihilated them.  So they Rush 4, Drop 7 into zone and show light boxes to invite RPOs.  Then they play Rally n' Tackle vs RPOs while clogging the middle passing lanes with zone defenders.  Defenses are terrified of Josh, but they know seam throws aren't his strength, so they invite the run, funnel routes to the boundaries, blanket the middle and leave the hash marks/numbers.

They also know that the running game is not a Bills strength either.  You only "invite the run" in the Red Zone when you don't fear a teams running backs.

 

 

[MILFHUNTER#518]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I wonder what our D rankings will look like after we shut them out again.

[Mat68]

I think this game goes 2 ways.  1.  Mia comes out firing by the second half they fade and Buffalo wins 38-20.  2.  Buffalo gets out early and Mia folds like a tent before half.  45-10.  Either way I expect Buffalo to put them away.  
 

I want to see the Bills run the ball without Allen.  I want to see him under center a bit more utilize play action and hit big plays.  Give Allen more protection and win games without him needing to be superman every game.  This stretch should help solidify the oline. 

[nucci]

9 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I think this game goes 2 ways.  1.  Mia comes out firing by the second half they fade and Buffalo wins 38-20.  2.  Buffalo gets out early and Mia folds like a tent before half.  45-10.  Either way I expect Buffalo to put them away.  
 

I want to see the Bills run the ball without Allen.  I want to see him under center a bit more utilize play action and hit big plays.  Give Allen more protection and win games without him needing to be superman every game.  This stretch should help solidify the oline. 

you can play action and have big plays from the shotgun. This offense runs better from the shotgun. You usually need your QB to play well to win

[CSBill]

Two notable negatives from Sal’s breakdown: 

 

1 - 26th in Red Zone. That has to improve. 
 

2 - 14th against the run. That is one mystifying, game-changing, play against the Titans. It will improve. 

[BearNorth]

2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Oof, didn't realize our red zone TD % is 26th in the league.  That is really bad and will haunt us later if that ***** isn't fixed

Which works out to the following:  In 2021 we are 16/29 in the red zone 55.1%.  We have tried 15 FG's, 11 in the red zone, [made all 11].  The league average is 62%.  So it says that if we were at the league average, so far this season we would have had 2 more touchdowns instead of FG's or stops. Would have been nice if that QB sneak in Nashvile had worked.  In the Steelers game we would have had to have 2 FG's convert to TD's. 

[Stank_Nasty]

19 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I think this game goes 2 ways.  1.  Mia comes out firing by the second half they fade and Buffalo wins 38-20.  2.  Buffalo gets out early and Mia folds like a tent before half.  45-10.  Either way I expect Buffalo to put them away.  
 

I want to see the Bills run the ball without Allen.  I want to see him under center a bit more utilize play action and hit big plays.  Give Allen more protection and win games without him needing to be superman every game.  This stretch should help solidify the oline. 

Lets just assume they can already do those things well vs a crap team and just watch Allen do his superman thing.....

 

Edited October 26, 2021 by Stank_Nasty

[Mat68]

15 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Lets just assume they can already do those things well vs a crap team and just watch Allen do his superman thing.....

 

Who doesn't like watching that stuff me included.  Only thing that stops Buffalo is something happening to Allen.  Dont need Allen jumping over 3 defenders for 3 yards vs bottom feeder teams.  

[Stank_Nasty]

3 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Who doesn't like watching that stuff me included.  Only thing that stops Buffalo is something happening to Allen.  Dont need Allen jumping over 3 defenders for 3 yards vs bottom feeder teams.  

I'm here for it! 😂

[Utah John]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

The stat I like best is the Bills allowing 270 yards per game (1st in the NFL) and the Dolphins allowing 414 (32nd in the NFL).  

49 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I think this game goes 2 ways.  1.  Mia comes out firing by the second half they fade and Buffalo wins 38-20.  2.  Buffalo gets out early and Mia folds like a tent before half.  45-10.  Either way I expect Buffalo to put them away.  
 

I want to see the Bills run the ball without Allen.  I want to see him under center a bit more utilize play action and hit big plays.  Give Allen more protection and win games without him needing to be superman every game.  This stretch should help solidify the oline. 

I'm fine with the Bills concentrating on their run game, AFTER they're up by three scores.  Let Allen pass them into tiny particles, so there's no hope on their sideline, and then start pounding away with Moss and Motor.  The only time the Bills really get into trouble on offense is when they waste downs running straight into the line for two or three yards, giving the defense a chance to load up against our O line.

[ColoradoBills]

just win.

 

How the W comes this week against the Dolphins will mean nothing come January.

[Steptide]

1 hour ago, Mat68 said:

I think this game goes 2 ways.  1.  Mia comes out firing by the second half they fade and Buffalo wins 38-20.  2.  Buffalo gets out early and Mia folds like a tent before half.  45-10.  Either way I expect Buffalo to put them away.  
 

I want to see the Bills run the ball without Allen.  I want to see him under center a bit more utilize play action and hit big plays.  Give Allen more protection and win games without him needing to be superman every game.  This stretch should help solidify the oline. 

I can't see any scenario where the bills lose this game. I'm the opposite, I DON'T wanna see them run the ball. I want to see them throw 95% of the game. Do what they were good at last season. Moss and singletary arnt game changers 

[x-BillzeBubba]

 

[Mat68]

34 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I can't see any scenario where the bills lose this game. I'm the opposite, I DON'T wanna see them run the ball. I want to see them throw 95% of the game. Do what they were good at last season. Moss and singletary arnt game changers 

Last year Bufffalo’s flaw was they became too dependent on Allen.  Im not advocating 60/40  run to pass.  Those 5 to 8 Allen designed runs a game need to go to Moss or Singeltary thats it.  Design run Allen in January or a most win scenario not in Oct vs a 1-6 Miami team.  I would like to see Allen throw it about 30 to 35 times.  Still aggressive offensively, but enough balance to open up bigger plays.   

[WideNine]

3 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

Cover 1 did a video on the RZ stuff.

 

 

In a nutshell, Defenses are playing way more Zone against the Bills, and the Bills tear them up anyway between the 20s. Defenses basically never play man against us in the RZ anymore because Josh annihilated them.  So they Rush 4, Drop 7 into zone and show light boxes to invite RPOs.  Then they play Rally n' Tackle vs RPOs while clogging the middle passing lanes with zone defenders.  Defenses are terrified of Josh, but they know seam throws aren't his strength, so they invite the run, funnel routes to the boundaries, blanket the middle and leave the hash marks/numbers.

 

Josh has open windows against those zones - especially after play action, but you are right that he hesitates attacking the seams and they are not there for long.

 

It is likely a combination of not trusting what he is seeing, and his prioritizing avoiding throwing RZ picks.

 

Josh has a great record of not turning the ball over in the red zone (knocking on wood), but he may need to trust his instincts more.

 

If we had a more feared running attack with better blocking, we would not see so many light boxes either.

 

I like the idea of more Josh read option keepers where he rolls out to the side with just a db and safety over top... if the TE or RB releases to that side too it really stresses the D on who to cover.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2021 by WideNine

[Captain_Quint]

[YoloinOhio]

 

[r00tabaga]

I wanna see 4th quarter Jos....

I mean 4th quarter Mitch Trubisky

[buffaloboyinATL]

Watson to the Fins?

It will cost them way too much.

Hope he never plays...

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[TBBills]

The dolphins vs Bills predict the score thread is very interesting. They feel what is about to happen.

[CSBill]

4 hours ago, x-BillzeBubba said:

 

That is scary! 😫😱😳

[Coffeesforclosers]

24 minutes ago, TBBills said:

The dolphins vs Bills predict the score thread is very interesting. They feel what is about to happen.

 

It's a little depressing, but I'll get over it.

 

As long as everyone took the bye seriously and did what they do every week, we'll be fine.

[Rockinon]

Can't imagine any conceivable possibility where the Bills lose this game. I got nothin'. Fully expecting a blowout win and a beating the Vegas spread. 

[Turf Toejam 34]

Please, sack Tua softly!

Send stinkin' fish a message.

Manny goes deep twice.

[Talley56]

1 hour ago, CSBill said:

That is scary! 😫😱😳

Guess they'll need to petition the NFL to move this week's game to Monday night if they want to keep this streak alive.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

I actually have a weirdly uncomfortable feeling about this game.

[RiotAct]

1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

I actually have a weirdly uncomfortable feeling about this game.

no need to overthink it.  The Dolphins are 1-6 and we’re fully healthy minus Dawson Knox, and coming off a bye week.  We should roll.

[John from Riverside]

17 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

I actually have a weirdly uncomfortable feeling about this game.

That’s just puberty you’ll be OK

[Playoffs?]

24 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

no need to overthink it.  The Dolphins are 1-6 and we’re fully healthy minus Dawson Knox, and coming off a bye week.  We should roll.

SHOULD!

[YoloinOhio]

Washing away the MNF game with sweet… Tennessee whisky 

 

 

[klos63]

1 hour ago, RiotAct said:

no need to overthink it.  The Dolphins are 1-6 and we’re fully healthy minus Dawson Knox, and coming off a bye week.  We should roll.

So technically, we aren't fully healthy.

 

Tua had a mostly good game last week, couple terrible passes but mostly good. Can't take this game lightly.

[Bills fan since 87]

4 hours ago, Rockinon said:

Can't imagine any conceivable possibility where the Bills lose this game. I got nothin'. Fully expecting a blowout win and a beating the Vegas spread. 

 

Agreed, you could even roll out just about any drought era Bills team and they'd squish these fish.  This team will drop 40+ on them

On 10/25/2021 at 9:37 AM, Greg S said:

It's nice to have a Bills game on at 1:00 on Sunday. It's been a while.

 

Agreed, and we get 4 in a row.  Gotta get used to the night games though, we'll have a lot of them in the coming years

Edited October 27, 2021 by Bills fan since 87

[The Wiz]

27 minutes ago, klos63 said:

So technically, we aren't fully healthy.

 

Tua had a mostly good game last week, couple terrible passes but mostly good. Can't take this game lightly.

Against a team that has beaten the Giants and the Jets this season (and Miami after the game).   He was a game manager in that game.  Not a threat to overtake the game.  He's 23rd in Y/A passing and hasn't shown that he can beat teams deep even if he has the horses in the stable to run free.

 

I just don't think his body is right still from that hip injury because he has very little velocity on his throws and he's only going to get worn down more and more.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

37 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Against a team that has beaten the Giants and the Jets this season (and Miami after the game).   He was a game manager in that game.  Not a threat to overtake the game.  He's 23rd in Y/A passing and hasn't shown that he can beat teams deep even if he has the horses in the stable to run free.

 

I just don't think his body is right still from that hip injury because he has very little velocity on his throws and he's only going to get worn down more and more.

I think the point is, any NFL game where a team thinks it can just March up and down the field, it’s a set up for getting that team’s ass whipped 

 

So hopefully the Bills don’t think that

[The Wiz]

23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

I think the point is, any NFL game where a team thinks it can just March up and down the field, it’s a set up for getting that team’s ass whipped 

 

So hopefully the Bills don’t think that

I completely agree. I don't take any game lightly. 

 

I was just stating that Tua had a good game against a team that really hasn't done much (yes I know, so have the Bills) but we at least are putting those teams away instead of losing on last second FGs.

 

God, remember those days. 

Edited October 27, 2021 by The Wiz

[Don Otreply]

3 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

I actually have a weirdly uncomfortable feeling about this game.

And this would surprise who? 
 

 

nuthin but luv, 

 

Go Bills!!!

[JMF2006]

17 hours ago, x-BillzeBubba said:

 

 

The Bills under Coach McD are 4-0 after a bye week

 

So unless Jason is either QB or the Ref for this game the Fins are getting caught in a tuna net this week

Maybe I should have put Tua net

[Greg S]

5 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

 

The Bills under Coach McD are 4-0 after a bye week

 

So unless Jason is either QB or the Ref for this game the Fins are getting caught in a tuna net this week

Maybe I should have put Tua net

 

Halloween. You mean Michael. 

[JMF2006]

2 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Halloween. You mean Michael. 

 

Whatever

 

I never really got into that stuff  

 

Seems all the same to me

 

My favorite was the Scary Movie spoofs

 

1965, 1971, 1976, 1982, 1993, 1999, 2004 and 2010. were the years that Halloween fell on a Sunday during the Dolphins existence BTW.