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They happen every year.

 

I didn't see this as its own thread, and I thought it deserved one. Who are your surprise cuts, and your surprise guys to make the 53?

 

One caveat: I think it's going to take a couple days after Tuesday for everything to come out in the wash, vis a vis IR, waivers, etc. For those posters who really follow the rest of the league, please include other team's cast-offs in your predictions, if you have any.

 

I'll start, Surprise Cut:

I've said for a while that I think Addison will be a surprise cut. I know they value him, and I know he's currently listed as a starter. But, especially when one considers the future (as Beane most certainly does), Hughes, Epenesa, Rousseau, Basham, Obada, and Johnson all provide more long-term value.

 

Surprise 53:

(Get ready to flame) Nate Becker. That's right, Nate Becker. Honestly, this would surprise me as well. But, consider: They've held onto him on the PS for two years, and signed him to futures contracts at the end of the '19, and '20 seasons. They've been developing him since they acquired him in '19. IMO, like Ike Boettger, I think they take these developmental guys seriously, and I also think they look at the time they put into their development on the PS as an investment. Obviously, he's been traveling well under the radar, and nobody has been talking about him (and to be fair, no one has been asking about him, either). I think this may be his year. If not now, maybe later in the season.

 

So, who do you got?

 

 

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Interesting cut down.  I think Becker is TE 3.  I stated my belief that Breida would be a surprise cut.  Utilizing him as a wing back is a creative way to get him on the field so he safe. I think DE brings the biggest shake up.  Keep 7 or trade 1 to keep 6. 

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46 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

They happen every year.

 

I didn't see this as its own thread, and I thought it deserved one. Who are your surprise cuts, and your surprise guys to make the 53?

 

One caveat: I think it's going to take a couple days after Tuesday for everything to come out in the wash, vis a vis IR, waivers, etc. For those posters who really follow the rest of the league, please include other team's cast-offs in your predictions, if you have any.

 

I'll start, Surprise Cut:

I've said for a while that I think Addison will be a surprise cut. I know they value him, and I know he's currently listed as a starter. But, especially when one considers the future (as Beane most certainly does), Hughes, Epenesa, Rousseau, Basham, Obada, and Johnson all provide more long-term value.

 

Surprise 53:

(Get ready to flame) Nate Becker. That's right, Nate Becker. Honestly, this would surprise me as well. But, consider: They've held onto him on the PS for two years, and signed him to futures contracts at the end of the '19, and '20 seasons. They've been developing him since they acquired him in '19. IMO, like Ike Boettger, I think they take these developmental guys seriously, and I also think they look at the time they put into their development on the PS as an investment. Obviously, he's been traveling well under the radar, and nobody has been talking about him (and to be fair, no one has been asking about him, either). I think this may be his year. If not now, maybe later in the season.

 

So, who do you got?

 

 

 

I think if they can't trade anyone on the DL, then could see this happening that they cut him.  Think they'd be thrilled if they could trade Addison, but can't se that happening for a guy that old, making that much money, and didn't do a whole lot last season.  But if they can trade anyone, then the numbers kind of work to keep him.

 

How's Becker WRT blocking?  If he's above average there, then possible instead of Sweeney.  But don't want to keep Becker if it means cutting a WR, think I'd prefer 7 WR and 2 TE

 

 

32 minutes ago, Reader said:

Surprise: Bam Johnson traded

 

Surprise 53: Bobby Hart, at least for week 1

 

Johnson Obada, or Addison IMO most likely to be traded or the team wants to trade them.  But as I said avove doubt any takers on Addison.

 

The problem with keeping Hart active for week 1, he's been in the league enough years  that then his entire salary becomes guaranteed.   That's why you'll often see vets who are cut this week not signed until after the first week to avoid that.

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Surprise cut: Kumerow. He's replaceable as a WR, but this decision would ultimately depend on special teams play. If anyone has shown they can take that role this offseason, then Kumerow may be the odd man out.

 

Surprise 53: Isaiah Johnson, CB, after being cut by the Raiders. Only 25 years old, Johnson has struggled to break into a starting role for the Raiders. As they've recently acquired more CBs in free agency and the draft, Johnson could get let go and be a target for the Bills to potentially improve CB depth. He's also played gunner on ST. 

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52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I think they will feel confident sneaking Becker onto the PS, so won't need to give him a spot but I do believe they want to keep him around. It wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world to me if he made it.

He had a handful of snaps with the 1s yesterday.  It was … interesting to me.  Made me wonder if it was to take a look at him in case they release Hollister on a handshake deal to save a roster spot and Hollister ends up leaving. 
 

Addison may also be in trouble.  They wasted money in a washed Trent Murphy last year, and I wonder if that experience will guide what happens with Addison moving forward.  He was in the game pretty late yesterday for someone who is supposed to be safe. 
 

And I’ll stand by my belief that McKenzie is in trouble.  Can’t undermine the coach without consequence. Maybe they worked it out already, maybe they didn’t.  And if they didn’t, there’s an easy way to address that issue. 

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Surprise cut: Kumerow. He's replaceable as a WR, but this decision would ultimately depend on special teams play. If anyone has shown they can take that role this offseason, then Kumerow may be the odd man out.

 

Surprise 53: Isaiah Johnson, CB, after being cut by the Raiders. Only 25 years old, Johnson has struggled to break into a starting role for the Raiders. As they've recently acquired more CBs in free agency and the draft, Johnson could get let go and be a target for the Bills to potentially improve CB depth. He's also played gunner on ST. 

 

 

Important to note that the Bills are near the bottom of the waiver claim list.

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16 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

And I’ll stand by my belief that McKenzie is in trouble.  Can’t undermine the coach without consequence. Maybe they worked it out already, maybe they didn’t.  And if they didn’t, there’s an easy way to address that issue. 

 

 

 

If McKenzie goes they can always pick up that Mckitrick guy. He is loads better anyhow.

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I think Isaiah mckenzie gets cut just to be snuck on the ir list.

 

I think kumerow gets traded for a 5 or 6 to gb.

 

I think breida gets cut and stashed on ps

 

Surprise I think they keep 7 des and i don't known if it counts but taiwan jones makes it again.

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50 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

How's Becker WRT blocking?  If he's above average there, then possible instead of Sweeney.  But don't want to keep Becker if it means cutting a WR, think I'd prefer 7 WR and 2 TE

 

What I heard in the past was he was 2nd string behind Lee Smith in the in-line blocking role n past camps in Buffalo.

I never heard anything in camp where he failed in that role and if he did I'm sure they wouldn't of kept him on the PS for 2 years.

He is the largest TE on the roster too.  He had some good grabs which impressed me as a receiver this summer.

 

I see him on the PS to start the season with a real chance to get called up if needed.

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Bobby Hart is safe. Consider him the new Vlad Ducasse. Terrible on the field and sticks around longer than he should. Say hello to the new BBMB whipping guy.

 

Surprise cut: I think there will be a few. My biggest will be McKenzie. As a KR there is a younger/cheaper/faster option already on the roster. Brieda can handle all those misdirection plays in the offense (something we may have glimpsed yesterday as well). As a WR he's not better than WR5. 

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2 hours ago, ganesh said:

Surprised there is no Ertz talk here yet !


Will Vikings now look to trade for Ertz with Irv Smith injured.

 

If Philly wants to get rid of him and get something in return, a 5th or lower would be a steal.

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42 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Bobby Hart is safe. Consider him the new Vlad Ducasse. Terrible on the field and sticks around longer than he should. Say hello to the new BBMB whipping guy.

 

Surprise cut: I think there will be a few. My biggest will be McKenzie. As a KR there is a younger/cheaper/faster option already on the roster. Brieda can handle all those misdirection plays in the offense (something we may have glimpsed yesterday as well). As a WR he's not better than WR5. 

 

I am confused.  I thought BBMB was whipping boy ever since taken out of that jacket with long, long sleeves.

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13 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We're not keeping Hart or Becker. And we're not cutting Brieda or Kumerow. Gilliam will probably be TE3.

It could certainly be that this is the year where there are no surprises come the cut-down date, which would be... surprising...

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1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Bobby Hart is safe. Consider him the new Vlad Ducasse. Terrible on the field and sticks around longer than he should. Say hello to the new BBMB whipping guy.

 

Surprise cut: I think there will be a few. My biggest will be McKenzie. As a KR there is a younger/cheaper/faster option already on the roster. Brieda can handle all those misdirection plays in the offense (something we may have glimpsed yesterday as well). As a WR he's not better than WR5. 

keep Bobby Hart for what as some sort of veiled threat to Josh?

 

McKenzie is exactly as good as WR5 because that's him.

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My Wish List:

 

1- Addison (and his contract) is traded away for a seventh round pick.

2 - This cap space is used up quickly for none other than Zack Ertz (for a fifth.) I think Sach is a guy we can run a lot of offense thru and he won't let us down. He is another primo weapon for us to get thru the year.

3. Bills trade a conditional seventh for a CB that fits our D. (Or could Wildgoose shock us? Either way, I'm good.)

4. Harry's knee turns out to be fine and he plays very well vs.the Stealers as a beginning to his best season in Buffalo ever by a country mile (I see this, Harry looks great. The question is his knee....If the knee is shot we need a new DT, imho... It's such a long season and we have to stop that heavy run game all year....

 

Stronger at TE, CB and DT we are ready to play the best the NFL has to offer.

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Trade value on tt the board always thought were very low then the 🎩 bean got a 3rd will he trade a de for a higher pick to in conference team the  (the jets) and will it be a higher value 3rd round. If he does and gets it with Addison contact the nfl should make him gm of the year on Wednesday forget the voting 🗳. 

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4 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Bobby Hart is safe. Consider him the new Vlad Ducasse. Terrible on the field and sticks around longer than he should. Say hello to the new BBMB whipping guy.

 

Surprise cut: I think there will be a few. My biggest will be McKenzie. As a KR there is a younger/cheaper/faster option already on the roster. Brieda can handle all those misdirection plays in the offense (something we may have glimpsed yesterday as well). As a WR he's not better than WR5. 

Our Vlad Ducasse days are so over.  McBeane will be Hartless going forward (haha).

 

No matter who gets cut, some of them will be such good players that we'll be surprised.  It's going to come down to how McBeane want to shape the roster for the way they want to play.

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The Bills value glue guys. Maybe Kumerow is a replaceable receiver but he is a very good blocker and special teamer and has proved he can catch it covered using his great size. On top of that, he is a glue guy. That's a pretty valuable 52 or 53....imho....

But you're right I think, we need another corner. Lewis is atop wildgoose but I don't see why....

We probably need another corner with Wallace or better type skills. I'm hoping McD can find one that failed somewhere else but is fine here (with coaching)......

 

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1 hour ago, billybrew1 said:

The Bills value glue guys. Maybe Kumerow is a replaceable receiver but he is a very good blocker and special teamer and has proved he can catch it covered using his great size. On top of that, he is a glue guy. That's a pretty valuable 52 or 53....imho....

But you're right I think, we need another corner. Lewis is atop wildgoose but I don't see why....

We probably need another corner with Wallace or better type skills. I'm hoping McD can find one that failed somewhere else but is fine here (with coaching)......

 

Lewis is atop Wildgoose because all I ever see is a wildgoose chase of a receiver.  Receivers don't seem to have any problem getting separation, and then they're off to the races.  

 

Maybe I haven't seen all the plays you have.  The Bills-Packers game was blacked out here (as was the Seahawks game) because somehow the NFL thinks Fairbanks Alaska is in the Buffalo viewing area.  The Fairbanks TV stations don't think so, so they didn't carry either game.  So I'll have to try to catch the Bills game on the repeat telecast.  Maybe that will improve my opinion of Wildgoose.

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9 hours ago, Warcodered said:

keep Bobby Hart for what as some sort of veiled threat to Josh?

 

McKenzie is exactly as good as WR5 because that's him.

 

And there is still a big drop off between McKenzie was WR5 and Kumerow and Stevenson as WR6 and WR7 in my view. For a team that ran more 4 wide than anyone in football in 2020 cutting your very good 5th receiver seems foolhardy.

 

I am waiting for the person who had Del'Shawn Phillips making it last year. If they called that then they are the person to follow.

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13 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

I think Addison gets traded for a 5th round pick not sure on any other surprises but it will be tough to make some of these edge of the roster decisions.

Another possibility is that the Bills trade Addison for a very good young CB.  

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the Bills trade him to some team what is early on the waiver wire list for a good young CB. (that team gets the first/early pick on players released on waivers,  picks the CB, and we trade Addison for the young CB.)

 

This method would cut down the logjam at DE and give us a player now with some experience to provide depth.

 

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18 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Jake Kumerow cut

 

Yes I’m serious 

Traded, is certainly an option, cut, no chance in hell he gets cut. 

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11 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

He got cut last year. Whats different now?

Well, looking at his body if work, and that the FO resigned him as soon as they could after losing him to another team… when he didn’t clear waivers the last time they tried to sneak him onto our PS…, but none of that has an impact on the FOs decision making right?

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