IgotBILLStopay Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 We have been very aware of this possibility for a while (I know I have posted it since the second round of the draft).That being said, we all know that, at least with Hughes, it is too too premature without knowing how the rookies and Epenesa and Obada do in pads and a Bills uniform. Addison, however, is fair game (I wanted to include him in a trade with Atlanta for TE Hurst). Some writers are starting to take note of the Bills' surplus at DE. FWIW, I like it that these are trade candidates rather than release candidates - shows they still have reasonable contracts and have value. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2944933-1-player-each-nfl-team-should-consider-trading-before-the-2021-season Quote This was a tossup between veteran Buffalo Bills edge defenders Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison. Either should be on the block if the team gets a good vibe from any or all of their three young pass-rushers: rookies Gregory Rousseau (first round) and Carlos Basham Jr. (second round) and sophomore A.J. Epenesa (second round). Hughes and Addison are a combined 65 years old and coming off a season in which they tallied just 9.5 sacks in 30 games. They'd save $6.4 million by trading Hughes and $5.4 million by dealing Addison, who is a year older and likely less attractive on the trade market. They wouldn't likely fetch too much for either considering their age and finances at play, but freeing up more reps for those young guys could make a deal worth it. With respect to other teams' assets, I wouldnt mind trading for a safety from the Rams or WFT. Need some depth behind Hyde and Poyer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Hughes is the only player on this team that can put pressure on the QB (the rookies and FAs at this point are an unknown). Trade Addison for a bag of peanuts, but Hughes belongs on this team. Edited July 1, 2021 by Weatherman 33 2 15 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I could see Addison they need a spot for Obada 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Offseasons number one objective: better our pass rush. thought process: trade our best pass rusher. Jerry is by faaaaar our best pass rusher. We should trade him because we drafted 2 young kids….. can’t help but almost throw up in my mouth whenever I hear anyone try and rationalize trading Jerry Hughes prior to the biggest season the Bills have had in almost 30 years. makes no sense Edited June 30, 2021 by NewEra 15 1 9 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I’ve got nothing against Jerry of late. BUT if a team wants to break open the bank to Buffalo. I’d listen 👂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I don't think it makes sense to trade a proven producer and veteran team leader in Hughes when the three young guys are unknown quantities. Two are rookies and one is a 2nd year guy who got limited reps last year. Addision, on the other hand, was brought in as a veteran, has only been with the team one year, and he was not particularly productive, so I could see moving on from him. That said, did Addison restructure his contract? If so, parting ways with a guy who made that concession for the team is not a good look as far as attracting future free agents. The Bills are probably good enough to be able to overcome that, but it still isn't a good look. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I could see Addison they need a spot for Obada If someone would take him and give us a pick, this is a no brainer. I don’t know how much value he has at this point. I’d take a 7th rd pick in 2098 for Addison if Obada looks good in training camp. Obada, Rousseau, epenesa and Basham (possibly johnson) along with Jerry could move the needle enough. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I think trading Mario Addison is a no-brainer, but BR is far from a news site with any inside knowledge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) This is a full opinion piece, so take it w a grain of salt. I mean, they needed to put someone on their list - its one player from each team... Edited June 30, 2021 by Heitz 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I personally put Jerry right up there with Kyle Williams. You simply don't trade a well-respected leader who has been great for Buffalo. Jerry has been one of the few bright spots of the drought and would be super pissed if he was traded. 6 minutes ago, Heitz said: This is a full opinion piece, so take it w a grain of salt. I mean, they needed to put someone on their list - its one player from each team... That's good to hear. I was about to be livid 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I think trading Mario Addison is a no-brainer, but BR is far from a news site with any inside knowledge. Beane has never told a player that if they'd like to stay, they have to take a paycut and even so much as released them. Not even players we didn't even use like Tyler Kroft. No way in hell is he going to say "thanks for taking that paycut to stay with us, made it easier for me to trade you wherever I feel". This regime puts an emphasis on team building and high morale. I believe a move like that would go against such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, NewEra said: Offseasons number one objective: better our pass rush. thought process: trade our best pass rusher. Jerry is by faaaaar our best pass rusher. We should trade him because we drafted 2 young kids….. can’t help but almost throw up in my mouth whenever I hear anyone try and rationalize trading Jerry Hughes prior to the biggest season the Bills have had in almost 30 years. makes no sense Yes, my friend. Hughes buys Boogie and Rousseau time to get acclimated to the pro level. May even be a great rotational guy by the end of the year. I suspect Boogie will be our RDE by the end of the year and beyond. Addison I couldn’t give a rats arse about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Yes, my friend. Hughes buys Boogie and Rousseau time to get acclimated to the pro level. May even be a great rotational guy by the end of the year. I suspect Boogie will be our RDE by the end of the year and beyond. Addison I couldn’t give a rats arse about. Yeah. The thing is, Beane should be doing the right thing for Addison as well. We don’t know what was said between BB and Addison, but depending on the verbiage of their agreement, Beane doesn’t want to get the reputation of saying one thing and doing another within the locker room and nfl circles. GMs have a reputation to uphold and I think Beane knows and respects that. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Man, Hughes seems like he should be off limits. That's my emotions speaking but I really hope they do not trade him. Addison? Who cares. Hughes should be above a "business transaction" at this point though. Business is business though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBorn1960 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Ertz for Addison and a 2022 5th 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 The thing we need most on this team is pass rush. Lets trade Hughes, our best past rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rigotz said: The thing we need most on this team is pass rush. Lets trade Hughes, our best past rusher. I have a feeling this is no longer the case but until it is proven by other(s) I agree (with the sarcasm). Edited June 30, 2021 by Azucho98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Hughes is the heart of the team and still can pressure the QB. Addison on the other hand is disposable esp after drafting two DE’s high up in the draft and one in the second round the previous season and bringing in Efe. But I am not sure what team is going to trade for Addison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 While I enjoy the descriptive title, it is based on no actual evidence or news. Someone on a fan site suggesting the Bills trade an aging pass-rusher does not equate to a single buzzard. A more apt title would be "Some guy thinks we could trade an older player but both players identified 'wouldn't likely fetch too much for either considering their age and finances at play'." 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 If you can't cut Addison for cap reasons you can't trade him either. It has the same effect on the cap. Hughes is still the best pass rusher on the team and is on the final year of his contract. No reason to trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 If Epenesa is improved Addison is traded in late August when a starting De goes down in preseason. He is the odd man out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said: While I enjoy the descriptive title, it is based on no actual evidence or news. Someone on a fan site suggesting the Bills trade an aging pass-rusher does not equate to a single buzzard. A more apt title would be "Some guy thinks we could trade an older player but both players identified 'wouldn't likely fetch too much for either considering their age and finances at play'." The article pick a guy from each of the 32 teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Can we wait to see what Rousseau and Basham look like in preseason before considering trading established pro edge rushers.? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Who would offer a pick for Addison? What a bad contract that is. This guy made 28 million over 7 years in Carolina. He's already made half that in one year with the Bills. Another 6 million in salary this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 0% chance we trade Hughes. No team would be willing to offer what it would take for McBean to move on an offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Heitz said: This is a full opinion piece, so take it w a grain of salt. I mean, they needed to put someone on their list - its one player from each team... Exactly - the article says "Either should be on the block if the team gets a good vibe from ..." not that either "are" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I *****in love Hughes and hope he retires as a Buffalo Bill. 1 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 5 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: With respect to other teams' assets, I wouldnt mind trading for a safety from the Rams or WFT. Need some depth behind Hyde and Poyer. No sense trading for safety when they let Dean Marlowe go and he wanted to stay. He was a very adequate player when called on defense AND he was good on special teams. If he was on roster defense could have Groot and Baby Groot with their hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Jerry is the fabric of this TEAM, He's not going anywhere. Beyond being heartless, it's just not a necessary move. He's on the last year of his deal here. If he want's to play after this season, it will likely be somewhere else, but not this year. Hell no. Don't see it from McBeane. Even looking back at Shady's exit here, no way they handle Jerry like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Beane has never told a player that if they'd like to stay, they have to take a paycut and even so much as released them. Not even players we didn't even use like Tyler Kroft. No way in hell is he going to say "thanks for taking that paycut to stay with us, made it easier for me to trade you wherever I feel". This regime puts an emphasis on team building and high morale. I believe a move like that would go against such things. The only way IMO they would do it is if they told player we do not think you would be starting this year but XXX has interest in you and likely you would if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawolv Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 4 hours ago, BuffaloBorn1960 said: Ertz for Addison and a 2022 5th I was waiting on who would make this an Ertz thread... you beat me to it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Addison doesn’t have a place in my bills fan heart but Hughes does. If a trade goes down it better not involve 55. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 5 hours ago, delirious said: That's good to hear. I was about to be livid You can change you username every 6 months.. "livid" is a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Addison doesn’t have a place in my bills fan heart but Hughes does. If a trade goes down it better not involve 55. I agree. He isn't what he used to be but he's a McDermott kind of guy....he plays hard on every play. Jerry deserves to be here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Addison is going to struggle to make the Bills roster, but I'm not sure how much trade value he has. At best, maybe a late round pick if a team is feeling the need. The Bills probably have more trade value in some of their extra offensive guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: Addison is going to struggle to make the Bills roster, but I'm not sure how much trade value he has. At best, maybe a late round pick if a team is feeling the need. The Bills probably have more trade value in some of their extra offensive guards. He will make the roster. They can't go into the season with 2 rookies and Epenesa opposite Hughes. Not if they are trying to win it all this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 They're both staying as they'll rotate the two kids with the two vets at DE. McDermott is already salivating at the thought of three young guys competing all year for two roster spots each Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElMarko Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Mario Addison had the most tackles for a loss on the Bills D last season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 8 hours ago, NewEra said: If someone would take him and give us a pick, this is a no brainer. I don’t know how much value he has at this point. I’d take a 7th rd pick in 2098 for Addison if Obada looks good in training camp. Obada, Rousseau, epenesa and Basham (possibly johnson) along with Jerry could move the needle enough. Addison led the team in sacks, you know... Sorry, but Hughes is old and hasn't produced sacks in years. He is a fine player but I would move on from him in a heartbeat if we got a good offer for him. I'd move on from him AND Addison in a heartbeat. I'm ready to let all the younger guys contribute and develop. I don't care about how many "pressures" Hughes gets. He never gets home and he has pissed off the refs to the point that they have blackballed him and never call holding for him. He is an above average player and I'm not sure why everyone is so attached to him and act like he is an elite difference maker. He isn't. Ask anyone who isn't a Bills fan about Jerry Hughes and they'll say "Who?". Not exactly a guy who is making an impact and turning heads as a pass rusher. Don't get me wrong, I like him and think he is a good player, but his best years are behind him for sure. He is totally the kind of high priced, old veteran that teams move on from. But truthfully? Nobody is going to offer anything good for him in a trade. Why would they? 1 hour ago, ElMarko said: Mario Addison had the most tackles for a loss on the Bills D last season. And sacks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Who would offer a pick for Addison? What a bad contract that is. This guy made 28 million over 7 years in Carolina. He's already made half that in one year with the Bills. Another 6 million in salary this year. Well, last off-season Bills fans and sports media were talking about how much they liked the signing of Addison and how it was a good below the radar move. I'm sure you weren't because you hate everything, but most people were. He was averaging nearly 10 sacks a season the previous 4 seasons. So yeah, hindsight is 20/20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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