ChevyVanMiller Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I would have put this in one of the many other Ertz threads, but it appears as if they have all been locked. Eagles trade Zach Ertz to ... Buffalo Bills Philadelphia Eagles get: 2022 seventh-round pick, TE Tommy Sweeney “Beane has been aggressive -- and successful -- in rehabilitating players who seemed to be struggling elsewhere over the past few years. He has also repeatedly gone after weapons for QB Josh Allen. Dealing a late-round pick and a player on the bottom of the roster in Sweeney for Ertz would give the Bills a well-regarded teammate and a player who was thought of as a premier tight end as recently as a year ago. With Ertz reducing his salary to $3.5 million as part of the deal, I love this low-risk, high-reward move for Buffalo.“ https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31468244/predicting-15-post-june-1-deadline-nfl-deals-including-julio-jones-trade-richard-sherman-signing-more 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I'd be entirely thrilled for this to go down, but, I'll believe it when it happens. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) Shiiiiiitttttt, I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. EDIT: I did not intend this to be a pun, sorry about that LOL Edited May 24, 2021 by Tuel Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: I would have put this in one of the many other Ertz threads, but it appears as if they have all been locked. Eagles trade Zach Ertz to ... Buffalo Bills Philadelphia Eagles get: 2022 seventh-round pick, TE Tommy Sweeney “Beane has been aggressive -- and successful -- in rehabilitating players who seemed to be struggling elsewhere over the past few years. He has also repeatedly gone after weapons for QB Josh Allen. Dealing a late-round pick and a player on the bottom of the roster in Sweeney for Ertz would give the Bills a well-regarded teammate and a player who was thought of as a premier tight end as recently as a year ago. With Ertz reducing his salary to $3.5 million as part of the deal, I love this low-risk, high-reward move for Buffalo.“ https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31468244/predicting-15-post-june-1-deadline-nfl-deals-including-julio-jones-trade-richard-sherman-signing-more They were locked because they were speculation that degraded into silliness once it was clear there was No New News. Let's see if this can avoid a similar fate.... Do you have any info on how successful Bill Barnwell's past predictions have been? 1 minute ago, Dick_Cheney said: I'd be entirely thrilled for this to go down, but, I'll believe it when it happens. Pretty much where I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Isn't Ertz due to be released after June 1st, therefore nullifying his contract? I don't think Beane does this deal with Ertz's current contract, but if new terms can be worked out, this is a good deal all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: They were locked because they were speculation that degraded into silliness once it was clear there was No New News. Let's see if this can avoid a similar fate.... Do you have any info on how successful Bill Barnwell's past predictions have been? Pretty much where I am. Yeah I understand why you locked them. I just felt this had merit because it is an ESPN writer and not some blogger or local outlet. Not sure how accurate his predictions are or if he is working from any inside information. But I will certainly leave it up to your discretion whether you think this has merit to stay open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c3c7312a-891e-41ff-b7cd-f16a9896080e https://y.yarn.co/c3c7312a-891e-41ff-b7cd-f16a9896080e_text.gif Edited May 24, 2021 by BuffaloRebound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Yeah I understand why you locked them. I just felt this had merit because it is an ESPN writer and not some blogger or local outlet. Not sure how accurate his predictions are or if he is working from any inside information. But I will certainly leave it up to your discretion whether you think this has merit to stay open. I try to let the thread lead - if folks are talking reasonably football-centered reasonably on topic, it's All Good. I personally think Pigs will Fly first. Spotrac is currently useless for capology (has every player's salary doubled - not just on the Bills). OTC says $4.6M but doesn't include signing bonuses for players below the top-51 cutoff or small amounts of dead cap, so it's typically high. Doing some calculator work my guess is that $3.6-$3.8M cap is pretty much what we got. So even if he takes a salary cut to $3.5M, that would basically eat our cap. Based on past history, Beane seems to like to go into the season with some free cap in case of injuries, which I believe, historically, has been about $3.5M Right about where we are Myself, I think Sanders was the "aggressively pursuing new weapons for Allen" along with (to follow the gladiator gif above) duels between Hollister, Knox, and Sweeney for roster/playing time and between a bunch of WR at the lower end of the roster to make the team/see the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Upgrade. Makes sense to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Why wouldn’t we just wait until after June 1st when he’s likely cut so we can sign him for less money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I'm sticking to my guns, we need to get a package deal for Zack, and also Julie Ertz as an emergency kicker. I wanted her to replace Bodork, but then we went and got Haaaaack Attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Does Sweeney sweeten the deal or something? He is actually tradable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 We're not trading assets for Zach Ertz in any way, shape, or form. Nothing happens until he gets released by the Eagles. If he wants to come here and they can make the salary fit, that's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Fingers crossed he winds up on the team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I personally think Pigs will Fly first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 This is the first time I'm hearing of this idea. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 41 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Why wouldn’t we just wait until after June 1st when he’s likely cut so we can sign him for less money? Because 30 other teams could sign him either via waivers or FA if he's cut. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 IMO our offense is pretty darn good and probably will be even better this year with HEALTHY E Sanders , are we giving up on Knox ? Because I don’t see many targets going his way if will make that trade , IMO we NEED to upgrade our backfield just look at our division pats***. & dolphins the TE’s and all the speed at WR that will have to deal with , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Ertz is a Bills Wall of Famer already. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, ChevyVanMiller said: I would have put this in one of the many other Ertz threads, but it appears as if they have all been locked. Eagles trade Zach Ertz to ... Buffalo Bills Philadelphia Eagles get: 2022 seventh-round pick, TE Tommy Sweeney “Beane has been aggressive -- and successful -- in rehabilitating players who seemed to be struggling elsewhere over the past few years. He has also repeatedly gone after weapons for QB Josh Allen. Dealing a late-round pick and a player on the bottom of the roster in Sweeney for Ertz would give the Bills a well-regarded teammate and a player who was thought of as a premier tight end as recently as a year ago. With Ertz reducing his salary to $3.5 million as part of the deal, I love this low-risk, high-reward move for Buffalo.“ https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31468244/predicting-15-post-june-1-deadline-nfl-deals-including-julio-jones-trade-richard-sherman-signing-more I'm trying to think who Barnwell is referencing with that statement, but I honestly can't think of anyone. For the trade proposal we're giving away nothing of value, and getting Ertz at 3.5mm ? That would be a great trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I'm trying to think who Barnwell is referencing with that statement, but I honestly can't think of anyone. For the trade proposal we're giving away nothing of value, and getting Ertz at 3.5mm ? That would be a great trade It's probably something like that or Ertz walks for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) He’s probably going to be cut post June 1st. My guess is Beane will get him to sign a 1 year deal a little north of vet minimum. Because this is what Beane is best at. It’s a prove me deal on a playoff team with one of the best QBs in the NFL throwing to you. Plus, competition is minimal. Gives more time for Knox to develop. There’s few other decent situations for Ertz to enter. It’s either the team is set at TE, they are a bottom feeder, or they have no cap room. If a team really needed him, they would’ve traded for him. It sounds like the asking price is low. Edited May 24, 2021 by Saint Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I for one, have posted a lot of silliness about the wild Zach Ertz speculations (apologies Hap, but it was just too easy). But, I do hope this comes to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I continue to love the idea of adding Ertz! But no way do we get him for $3.5 million, that's fantasyland. I thought the reduced $8.5mill was a bargain. He's a former pro bowler who had one down year. IMO, he's closer to H Henry/J Smith ($12.5mill) than he is C Manhertz (who? $3.3 mill) and Dan Arnold ($3m). To meet the expense Bills would have to do some retooling. It might include moving the reduced but still expensive Addison after June 1st. This could be a set up article to make Philly management look good. It may be a nice sign though that someone is considering a new low in the price of Ertz - both financially and in terms of draft capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just1hugheser Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I mean its a pretty easy scenario to work out if what we are assuming is true; Either Beane waits until he gets cut after June 1st and compete with other teams that will be interested, or trade something to guarantee we hold his contract and have first negotiations. I can't start any threads yet so I'm going to post a question here that I have been thinking about; I was watching NFL Live and it appears that Julio Jones is definitely out of Atlanta and that they think that Atlanta gets at most a 2nd round pick unless a bid war gets started, also they pointed out that his salary would rank 19th among wrs-lower than nelson agholor- so I ask myself at the age of 32 I think he has 4 more years at his current level of play but because of his route running ability he could be a viable threat for much longer- Is a 1st round pick worth 4 years of basically hall of fame level play at wr for a team that is in win now mode? And also I would really hate to see him go to the pats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, just1hugheser said: I mean its a pretty easy scenario to work out if what we are assuming is true; Either Beane waits until he gets cut after June 1st and compete with other teams that will be interested, or trade something to guarantee we hold his contract and have first negotiations. I can't start any threads yet so I'm going to post a question here that I have been thinking about; I was watching NFL Live and it appears that Julio Jones is definitely out of Atlanta and that they think that Atlanta gets at most a 2nd round pick unless a bid war gets started, also they pointed out that his salary would rank 19th among wrs-lower than nelson agholor- so I ask myself at the age of 32 I think he has 4 more years at his current level of play but because of his route running ability he could be a viable threat for much longer- Is a 1st round pick worth 4 years of basically hall of fame level play at wr for a team that is in win now mode? And also I would really hate to see him go to the pats. You don’t give up a first round pick for a 32 year old WR coming of an injury / huge salary , to be your # 2 WR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just1hugheser Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Putin said: You don’t give up a first round pick for a 32 year old WR coming of an injury / huge salary , to be your # 2 WR Thanks for the response, yea I def dont think it happens or should happen for that matter, I'm just really curious where everyone lands on this, he is coming off an injury but he has not been injury prone i think over the previous six seasons he missed 4 games though Id have to look that up Im guessing from memory. And his salary is up there but can always be re-worked and according to nfl live his cap hit is 19th among wrs. I'm just wondering how much a GM has to think about a thing like that when the team is so close and other championship caliber teams are stocking talent everywhere as well, and I would really hate it if he went to the pats haha- thats my only drive for signing players so that NE cant get em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: He’s probably going to be cut post June 1st. My guess is Beane will get him to sign a 1 year deal a little north of vet minimum. Because this is what Beane is best at. It’s a prove me deal on a playoff team with one of the best QBs in the NFL throwing to you. Plus, competition is minimal. Gives more time for Knox to develop. There’s few other decent situations for Ertz to enter. It’s either the team is set at TE, they are a bottom feeder, or they have no cap room. If a team really needed him, they would’ve traded for him. It sounds like the asking price is low. A little north of vet minimum? You're kidding right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 A story in pictures: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Is it soup yet..., not holding my breath on this, sounds like more off season nonsense than anything reality based. I have read conflicting reports on Ertz being all that useful at this point, I guess we can only wait for something or nothing to happen concerning this supposed trade..., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just1hugheser Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Logic said: A story in pictures: hahhaha nicely played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Tuel Time said: Shiiiiiitttttt, I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. EDIT: I did not intend this to be a pun, sorry about that LOL It looks like you accomplished your mission. I don't see anything close to a pun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 43 minutes ago, just1hugheser said: Thanks for the response, yea I def dont think it happens or should happen for that matter, I'm just really curious where everyone lands on this, he is coming off an injury but he has not been injury prone i think over the previous six seasons he missed 4 games though Id have to look that up Im guessing from memory. And his salary is up there but can always be re-worked and according to nfl live his cap hit is 19th among wrs. I'm just wondering how much a GM has to think about a thing like that when the team is so close and other championship caliber teams are stocking talent everywhere as well, and I would really hate it if he went to the pats haha- thats my only drive for signing players so that NE cant get em I have no doubt that a year ago before we got Diggs Bean would have pulled the trigger , who knows he might be on phone with Atlanta as we speak , I think the only team that might give up a 1st round pick for Jones is the freaking patriots***** , Bill still has a bad taste in his mouth from watching Brady winning the SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, Process said: A little north of vet minimum? You're kidding right? Reminds me of Sam Malone trying to lure customers back to Cheers with his version of hors d'oeuvres. "I'm talking about American cheese on top of some saltines and everything..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, Logic said: A story in pictures: FIFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Bit of a slow period right now. These guys need some clicks. Nothing really new just more speculation. With that said, I’d allow it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) Alright, another Zack Ertz thread... Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Edited May 25, 2021 by HOUSE 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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