eball Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Saint Doug said: Eric Moulds 8 hours ago, B Rob said: Eric moulds. He might be the best receiver we've had on the team. Eric Moulds is ineligible for consideration as he is not a part of the drought. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Peerless Price! I actually just love his name and feel bad for him that no one mentioned him yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 It's a shame the timing of the careers of both Fred Jackson and Kyle Williams were just a little bit off in timing because they would be the absolute perfect fits both in talent and personalities for this current McDermott process culture era Bills team. Would be incredible to add both of those guys to the mix both on the field and in the locker room on the current Bills team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Karlos Williams rookie year Super Mario 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Aaron Williams for this squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, eball said: Eric Moulds is ineligible for consideration as he is not a part of the drought. He did have 6 years of drought-stench baked into him from 2000-2005. And he did quit on the team before the left, though I admit that can possibly be looked at as a positive considering the trash he was dealing with. https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2255840 All-in-all, I think he's another that would need major deprogramming before you would risk adding him to the current mix. Edited April 17, 2021 by Rico 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Fred Jackson: Pass-blocking. Screens. Check-downs. Straight-arms. Leadership. And all of the above delivered with a D-3 chip on his shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 7 hours ago, without a drought said: On offense, defense or both? Triple agent. Don't forget Special teams. 2 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Peerless Price! I actually just love his name and feel bad for him that no one mentioned him yet. I still remember predicting that the Bills will draft him during the draft. One of my offensive favs and I totally forgot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 13 hours ago, CheshireCT said: Fred Jackson was more versatile for sure. If i were to go for an all-around back from those years, I would go for Lynch, though. Jackson was the better all-around back IMO. Higher yards per carry, higher receptions per game and higher receiving yards per game. Jackson's versatility as an all around back was really evident in 2011 before he broke his leg. Lynch would be the choice for a back you want to give the ball to 25+ times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 hours ago, eball said: Eric Moulds is ineligible for consideration as he is not a part of the drought. Yes he was part of the drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Mario Williams Aaron schrobel Eric moulds Meatball Terrance mggee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Mario only seemed to care when he thought we could win, so his effort would be awesome now. But I think that Kyle Williams rotated into those tackles would make our Dline awesome and I loved him as a player. I actually have a student who says Kyle is his favorite non steeler in NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) If we are talking about the whole team, then I'd put in a nod for Wade Phillips as DC. He would have this defense rocking a notch above Frazier. I agree on the list of players. There's a good bunch that could help. Spikes (LB) Mario Williams or Schoebel (DE) Fat Pat, Ted Washington, Sam Adams or Kyle Williams (DT) and Winfield (CB) would be my tops on D. On offense Freddie would definitely set the tone for the RB room and make Devin and Moss better. I'd take McCoy in his prime too. And as an added bonus I'd love to have Jason Peters back in his prime at LT and Dawkins at RT and replace Ford with Richie Icognito (pre-mental Pro Bowl Richie) There's our Super Bowl Champs. I hope this crew can do it in 2021. Edited April 18, 2021 by 1st Ammendment NoMas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Aaron Maybin. For the art. And to take some heat off of Edmunds on the defense. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1)Mario 2)Schobel others that should get consideration that I haven’t seen posted: Takeo Spikes, London Fletcher, Jason Peters, Lee Evans (speed), Paul Poz, Marcel Darius, and Terrell Owens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 12 hours ago, Clyde Smith said: Yes he was part of the drought. Moulds made the playoffs twice early in his career with the Bills and was a major reason why the Bills did so. His time on the Bills during the drought only lasted from 2000 to 2005. Everyone has their own definition but mine would be one of a player who never made the playoffs while on the Bills. Ruben Brown would be a similar player. 9 year career with the Bills five of those years being pre-drought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Haven't seen his name yet so I'll give him and honorable. I'm thinking mention. Roscoe Parrish would be even more dynamic and effective in today's game and with Allen, Diggs and Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 5:56 AM, JV14 said: Sam Adams...big body run stuffing space eater. mid prefer Pat Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 9:02 AM, Saint Doug said: Eric Moulds In Moulds’ prime, the Bills were still good. 15 hours ago, Rico said: He did have 6 years of drought-stench baked into him from 2000-2005. And he did quit on the team before the left, though I admit that can possibly be looked at as a positive considering the trash he was dealing with. https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2255840 All-in-all, I think he's another that would need major deprogramming before you would risk adding him to the current mix. I think the point is that his best season — which is one of the best seasons for an offensive player in all of Bills history — came in 1998, a season in which he punctuated it by having the game of his life in the playoffs against the top passing defense in the NFL that year. He was just about as good in 1999, but missed a couple-few games because of a hamstring. The Bills were good in both of those seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Has to be Super Mario or Aaron Schobel. Either 1 of them would take this defense to the next level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Anyone whose not saying Mario Williams is just bitter about how it ended. It’s not close. He was easily one of, if not the, most dominate player in the drought era. He was a top 5-10 player at his position for several years with the Bills. Who else can claim that during that period? Moulds, probably. Maybe Clements. Add 10-15 sacks and the dominance against the run to this defense and things change greatly. My random darkhorse pick who would be fun though, is Terrance McGee. Upgrades CB2, and gives us a great return option. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Anyone whose not saying Mario Williams is just bitter about how it ended. It’s not close. He was easily one of, if not the, most dominate player in the drought era. He was a top 5-10 player at his position for several years with the Bills. Who else can claim that during that period? Moulds, probably. Maybe Clements. Add 10-15 sacks and the dominance against the run to this defense and things change greatly. My random darkhorse pick who would be fun though, is Terrance McGee. Upgrades CB2, and gives us a great return option. It would have to be down to Mario Williams or Jason Peters. Peters was incredibly dominant for 3 seasons(prior to his holdout season).........and of course was the much greater player than Williams. Williams had two great seasons with Buffalo........he'd help a lot. But it's easy to look on paper and say the team is more needing of a pass rusher.........but likely having the best OL in football satisfies job #1 which is to maximize the potential of Josh Allen.......your biggest factor in winning and losing actual games. I think one of the mistakes fans make is to try to even out the talent on both sides of the ball. That's not actually how most SB winners have done it. Edited April 18, 2021 by BADOLBILZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: It would have to be down to Mario Williams or Jason Peters. Peters was incredibly dominant for 3 seasons(prior to his holdout season).........and of course was the much greater player than Williams. Williams had two great seasons with Buffalo........he'd help a lot. But it's easy to look on paper and say the team is more needing of a pass rusher.........but likely having the best OL in football satisfies job #1 which is to maximize the potential of Josh Allen.......your biggest factor in winning and losing actual games. I think one of the mistakes fans make is to try to even out the talent on both sides of the ball. That's not actually how most SB winners have done it. Meh, I get the argument for Peters, but I’m not looking to change our tackles right now. I get the idea of moving one inside, but I would rather have a true guard. Plus, we just set a record for scoring with our presumed best 5 not playing a single game together. I want an upgrade at IOL, but for this exercise give me the dominate DE. But I agree with the premise that Peters is up there as best Bill from the drought. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Win Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Ed Wang!!! 🙂 😀 🤑 😏 😶 🤫 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Meh, I get the argument for Peters, but I’m not looking to change our tackles right now. I get the idea of moving one inside, but I would rather have a true guard. Plus, we just set a record for scoring with our presumed best 5 not playing a single game together. I want an upgrade at IOL, but for this exercise give me the dominate DE. But I agree with the premise that Peters is up there as best Bill from the drought. The question was about 2021..........and IMO defenses will adapt to what the Bills did offensively in 2020. They already did in the playoffs. It will be harder to run it back. I personally loved Dawkins at guard. He is an adequate LT but his ceiling at guard was very high. I was a big Mario fan though. They definitely could use that. And I think the scheme change and poor stewardship of Rex Ryan hastened his demise. I remember @Kevin becoming furious with me for saying I thought the Bills were going to make a run at him in free agency. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Can you give me 2013 to 2014 Marcell Dareus? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Eric Moulds and Sam Cowert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Mario and his mini-fridge might have not been part of the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Eric Moulds and Sam Cowert I’d take TO in his prime over Moulds and I was a huge Moulds fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Marshawn Lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 1. Aaron Schobel 2. Fred Jackson 3. Stephon Gilmore 4. Sam Adams 5. Takeo Spikes Honestly forgot about Mario Williams until I went back and looked at some pother posts. I would take him over Schobel. Edited April 19, 2021 by Ethan in Portland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Marshawn lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Jason Peters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just1hugheser Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Well everyone says we need a DE so Mario Williams is hands down the easiest and most impactful decision. We also need help in the secondary, possibly interior oline if cody ford doesnt step up, dt help if star and/or phillips dont come thru, and a hybrid linebacker type So I'd say Antoine Winfield/Nate Clements, Reuben Brown was a pro bowl guard but don't know if he'd count, Pat Williams/Ted Washington would be fun to see but it'd also be nice to bring Kyle back, as for hybrid LB type I was at the game the season before when we shouted TKO to recruit Takeo Spikes so I'd like him back to work with Edmunds lol and not the other famous Bills LB who was ragged on for making a ton of tackles but 8 yards down the field- you know who I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Hard to argue with Mario Williams, but if it was my choice, I would kill to see in-his-prime Fred Jackson on the 2021-22 Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Jason Peters OL Terrence McGee D/ST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Ted Washington, dumb dumb Grego Williams cut him and we went 3-13 right after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Any way we can squeeze Bryce Paup into the mix, i mean he didn't go the Superbowls ?? 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Any way we can squeeze Bryce Paup into the mix, i mean he didn't go the Superbowls ?? 😁 If you're going to do that, I'm going to take the Sam Cowart who never got cheap-shotted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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