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I thought I would just throw the question out there as Free Agency is days out!  
 

The Wizard already pulled off two moves  I didn’t think could happen. Fantastic that we have shored up our Two Tackles for Three seasons. Keeping Matt is one less hole to fill at that position!

 

But... With that being said,  End of Season press conference he was clearly not satisfied with our TE production? Are we going to roll with Knox once more season and hope he  picks up his game? It’s not often many Tight ends hit the market like this Free Agency. 

 

Is there a Player we can find who is ready to wreak some Havoc on opposing Qbs?

 

Can he manipulate the cap a bit more and push some money to future seasons when the Tv deals kick in?

 

Or are we essentially done and on to the draft!

 

Keeping the status quo is good for the long Haul.. I’d be curious to hear everyone’s  thoughts on the state of this roster as it stands and if it can Be a Championship Roster.

 

 


 

 

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I think we might see some under the radar stuff but no I don’t think we’re seeing any big moves. We ALL recognize the need for an elite level pass rusher but it’s not like teams are just giving them away. It has been beaten to death exactly how many ways and how easy it is to free some cap for a move if something is available. I expect they will address depth and hope to find a hidden gem or two in the draft. 

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23 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

There’s a few very good pass rushers available in FA.... not sure they have the space considering the moves just made and holding onto a few guys instead of cutting them outright.... they are FAs, it has nothing to do with teams giving them away. 

They are usually free agents for a reason. I don’t see any of those guys as elite game changers or big upgrades over what we already have

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47 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

I got a feeling that there will be 2-3  ring chasers that will come over to the Bills on a 1 yr cheap deal ....

 

I was just going to say that about a "ring chaser" (great term and it's great to say about the Bills!) or maybe two.  Three seems a little too much for the cap.

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I think they will bring in a FA TE.  Smith will be gone and his 2.25 million plus a little will bring the next man in.  

 

Jerry could be out too if a good FA is available on a deal.  Savings on Jerry is over 7 million so they might be able to get younger at the position.   

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8 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I’d take a chance on Clowney.  We got a plethora of JAG’s on the D Line.  Dude possesses elite talent.  As McDermott says, come here and be the best version of yourself.  He needs us as much as we need him and he’d come cheap.  

Even if he comes cheap he has been injured and non productive the last few years.   I hope Beans takes a hard pass.

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6 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

Even if he comes cheap he has been injured and non productive the last few years.   I hope Beans takes a hard pass.


Yes. But Clooney is a potentially elite cheap 1 year prove it option. I’d roll the dice on him for the right price. Still would draft a pass rusher anyways as they are old at that position.

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4 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

Even if he comes cheap he has been injured and non productive the last few years.   I hope Beans takes a hard pass.

There’s definitely a risk in signing him but for 1 year $7-8m, at best you unlock his potential and get the difference maker this D Line needs, at worst it’s like having Murphy for another year.  
There’s also a big risk chasing one of the higher priced free agent pass rushers.  

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23 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

A potential addition of Von Miller isn’t an upgrade over Addison? In what world?

He’s not even a free agent yet is he? From what I read they want him back in Denver if they can lower his number. 

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I'd be happy to just see Beane resign McKenzie, BoJo, and Andre Roberts.   I was really hoping to get Feliciano back but Beane should be able to sign those three players for about the same cost as resigning Feliciano.  I think those three player's contribution as a whole would be greater for the Bills than Feliciano's alone. 

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I think this offseason will play to Beane's strengths.  I think he will not be active in early free agency.  He will wait his time until some good players still will not have teams and when pick up quality backups at multiple positions.

 

I think he will draft a guard/center early in the draft, a DT space eater so he can jettison Star's contract next year, a mid round RB (would love Chubba Hubbard here), another WR to fight for playing time.

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1 hour ago, artmalibu said:

Jerry could be out too if a good FA is available on a deal.  Savings on Jerry is over 7 million so they might be able to get younger at the position.   

I don't see any way they cut Hughes. He is a team leader & still a very good player. He's a guy we need to find a complement to, not replace. Not happening.

 

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So - I'm working on a large post but here is some food for thought for the grand wizard bean to pull out

 

-Exercise contract clause in both of Tre and Dawkwins contracts allowing them to pay forward/move around their last year of their respective deals which frees up a total of 15 million

- Extend Diggs with a smaller cap hit for this season (Let's say 5 million saved towards this year)

- Cut Tyler Matakevich (save ~3.5 million)

- Cut Lee Smith (save 2.25 million)

 

Suddenly we have 20 million more to work with.

 

*Clarification on Point #1 - Both White and Dawkins have a team optional extra year addition to their contract at the cost of giving them a 7.5 million dollar sign bonus which allows the Bills to move that amount off the books from this year and spread it out over the lifetime of each contract as they see fit

 

*Lee Smith is thinking of retiring - and the TE market this offseason is sneaky deep - imo just CUT him and let him mull it over on his own time or get a head start on finding another team

 

* How the hell are we paying Tyler Matakevich that much - with a dead cap hit of just 350k he should be all but gone, the worst case put Darron Lee in there from where ever the hell we stashed him.

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2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I’d take a chance on Clowney.  We got a plethora of JAG’s on the D Line.  Dude possesses elite talent.  As McDermott says, come here and be the best version of yourself.  He needs us as much as we need him and he’d come cheap.  

 

Has has not shown anything in a year where he was on a 1 year deal showcasing for a better contract when no one offered.

Bills are not going to let Jerry go for someone who might not perform when they let go other players who did not perform up to contract.

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45 minutes ago, Rk_Bills86 said:

* How the hell are we paying Tyler Matakevich that much - with a dead cap hit of just 350k he should be all but gone, the worst case put Darron Lee in there from where ever the hell we stashed him.

 

You might want to research first.  Coach McD asked ST coordinator for player he needed most to improve special teams and he said Tyler Matakevich.  Beane is not going to cut him when he did not underperform. Darron Lee was signed after KC after he was cut who get him from JEST; he is not even on Bills roster now.

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11 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

You might want to research first.  Coach McD asked ST coordinator for player he needed most to improve special teams and he said Tyler Matakevich.  Beane is not going to cut him when he did not underperform. Darron Lee was signed after KC after he was cut who get him from JEST; he is not even on Bills roster now.

 

So just to put this out there - in a year where teams are super tight against the cap Tyler Matakevich and his 3.7 million dollar contract is a luxury for a ST contributor that you would HOPE you could find someone else to do his assignment on his limited plays during a game. At no point did I say he underperformed. I am however outright stating that he should be an immediate candidate for cap crunch cut.

 

1) Darron Lee was being stashed on our Practice Squad - the fact that he was not living up to his initial draft hype on the Jets is irrelevant.

2) The Bills protected him from weeks 12 through 17 so he couldn't be poached

3) Darron Lee primarily played Special Teams in KC after moving to essentially 4th on the rotation for ILB

 

If Darron Lee is even remotely capable of filling Tyler Matakevich's position - we should 100% do so for the more favorable cap number.

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I personally think cutting John Brown makes WR a big need. Everyone loves Diggs, but Beasley & Gabe Davis as our #2 and #3 is not great, IMO.

 

I think a pass catcher (TE or WR) will be added with either a quality FA or a top 60 pick in the draft.

 

Keep adding young weapons to our offense. 

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3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Not sure if they declined the team option. You also have Yannick, Carl Lawson, Carlos Dunlap to name a few.

 

Either way you slice it, they need an upgrade over Addison. He’s washed at this point.


Last I heard, Lawson was likely going back to Cinci.  
 

Yannick screams overpay from a team like the Jets.  I’d like him here, but I just don’t know how we compete financially for a guy like him.  
 

Beane will need to get super creative if he wants to go after a FA pass rusher that Is an upgrade over what we have.  
 

*Now if you want to ask me why Butler and Addison are still on this team, likely preventing us from going after any of the high priced guys, I wouldn’t really have an answer for you.
 
 

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5 hours ago, fansince88 said:

Why is your leg killing you?

Interesting, your reply to House is now to a post that was vaporized

3 hours ago, Motor26 said:


Yes. But Clooney is a potentially elite cheap 1 year prove it option. I’d roll the dice on him for the right price. Still would draft a pass rusher anyways as they are old at that position.

George Clooney ?

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5 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

They are usually free agents for a reason. I don’t see any of those guys as elite game changers or big upgrades over what we already have

 

This year especially, there are guys entering FA who would not have reached it in other years.

 

They may not be elite game-changers, but hopefully we can add 1 or 2 higher-tier players who will improve our pass rush and our TE play.

 

I'm pretty sure that Beane has a list of players he'd like to sign and a list of exactly where to find the money hidden in our remaining contracts.

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6 hours ago, CNYfan said:

I don't think Clowney has effected the QB much in the past two years.   

 

 

6 hours ago, CNYfan said:

I don't think Clowney has effected the QB much in the past two years.   

 


Or ever.  He is the most overrated player in the NFL.  0 sacks last year, and 3 in 2019.  He’s only played 16 games once in 7 years.  It’s not no, it’s heck no from Beane.  I’d love Ngakoue, but I seriously doubt we can or would pay for him.  Jonnu Smith is possible.

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8 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Anybody counting Beane out right now is hilarious lol DID NONE OF US LEARN ANYTHING IN THE LAST 48HOURS?!?!  it would surprise me more if he didnt find a way to land a premier pass rusher, ye of little faith!

Guilty here. I just "knew" that Milano was gone. I had already started to give him a Jets jersey. Then, once Milano had re-signed, I just "knew" that Williams was gone and we were looking to add 2 OL'man in the first 3 rounds of the draft. Now I'm just along for the ride because I have absolutely no idea what this mf will pull off next. :lol:

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10 hours ago, Motor26 said:


Yes. But Clooney is a potentially elite cheap 1 year prove it option. I’d roll the dice on him for the right price. Still would draft a pass rusher anyways as they are old at that position.

I didn't think his Batman held a candle to Bale's version, so I doubt he could be convincing as a football player.

7 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

Beanes often have an unexpected surprise.

Well played.

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