Bills fans being mad because the KC game was chippy is Ridiculous!

[Patrick Duffy]

10 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

So you think Diggs getting suplexed and Mongo punched in the helmet is chippy? The late hit on Allen when the game was out of reach? That to me is not chippy, it’s the officials making the game into a complete ***** show. It would be like if the NBA called fouls for barely touching someone in the regular season like they do now but then in the playoffs went back to allowing Jordan era fouls of elbows to the face and kidney punches. 
 

The transition from the regular season to the playoffs should not change that much. 
 

 

Can you send me a link to that Fortnight tourney.

Exactly! Obviously these incidents were not the reason the Bills lost, but they most definitely should have been flagged. Doesn't look to good on the NFL imo.

[4_kidd_4]

5 hours ago, Sweats said:

We lost....can we just let it go already 

 

No, we need to live up to that “whiniest fans” label!!

[JohnNord]

34 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I don’t care much about Gronk either, I’m just making the point that some fans are rooting against KC because of dirty plays. Brady is a cheat and Gronk committed one of the dirtiest plays I’ve ever seen, so I didn’t understand how some Bills fans are all about the Bucs suddenly. To each their own, I just find some of the Brady love around here kind of gross.

Like I said, it’s an excuse.  A bit of recency bias too.  People was TB to win because the Bills just lost to the Chiefs 

[MJS]

The Bills were pretty chippy themselves at times.

 

I am not offended by it. The Chiefs have a few unlikables on their team, for sure, but have you checked the Tampa Bay roster? Brady, Gronk, Brown, Suh, etc. They are full of unlikeable characters.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

The Bills were pretty chippy themselves at times.

 

I am not offended by it. The Chiefs have a few unlikables on their team, for sure, but have you checked the Tampa Bay roster? Brady, Gronk, Brown, Suh, etc. They are full of unlikeable characters.

Yeah they were. But I think it was for the most part retaliation.

[SirAndrew]

7 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

I seen the banter on here about KC being too chippy.  

Then I go on Twitter tonight and I see 3 videos by Bills fans saying they won't root for KC because of these plays!

 

A trip to the SUPERBOWL was on the line. I'd expect the game to get a bit chippy.  I'm just tired of the whining.  This is football.

 

If the shoe was on the other foot and our guys on D are feeling confident enough to act like that, I'd be thrilled and would have spent last week researching tickets to a Bills SB game.

 

They were better and more physical and deserved the W. 

I'm tired of Bills fans whining about these type of plays!

 

My favorite part of that video is how Feliciano got dominated after the whistle in scrums just as much as he did trying to block. 

Edited February 4, 2021 by SirAndrew

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 hours ago, BillsinChesterSprings said:

Maybe KC was chippy on purpose and felt it would get the Bills a bit off their game.  Case in point - when Diggs was lifted then slammed in the first or second quarter.  Seemed a bit off after that.

agreed. The fact that the refs had to early on in the game talk to Reid about this stuff speaks volumes. 
 

they crossed some lines early— like the body slam and the punch. That is more than being “chippy.” That’s like Suh territory. 

Edited February 4, 2021 by Miyagi-Do Karate

[Mr. WEO]

There is no rule that I can find that required the Bills to allow themselves to get slapped around like that.

 

Maybe at the next owners' meeting it can be addressed?  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

agreed. The fact that the refs had to early on in the game talk to Reid about this stuff speaks volumes. 
they crossed some lines early— like the body slam and the punch. That is more than being “chippy.” That’s like Suh territory. 

 

I hadn't heard that about the refs talking to KC.  Can you provide a link or more info?

[thenorthremembers]

I think both teams are unlikable.  As a Bills fan I havent forgot Gronk's elbow smash on Tre.  I also think the Chiefs were classless in throwing punches, and tossing our two best players to the ground after the whistle blew.  Not sure how anyone can cheer on a team that employs both Tyreek Hill and Frank Clark, but its also not my place to try and determine that.   I hope they both have become better people, and have left their mistakes in the past. 

 

That said, I hope the Chiefs lose on Sunday.  I dont think they will, but I hope they do.   

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

25 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I hadn't heard that about the refs talking to KC.  Can you provide a link or more info?

the announcers mentioned it during the broadcast of the game— they said they went over and spoke to Reid and Matthieu to dial it back, or something along those lines. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

23 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

the announcers mentioned it during the broadcast of the game— they said they went over and spoke to Reid and Matthieu to dial it back, or something along those lines. 

 

There should have been penalties then.  If the team has to be warned, they need to feel it.

[Figster]

I want Bills fans to despise everything about the Chiefs. Its Buffalo's biggest obstacle. Its not the Pats or Tom Brady anymore. Chiefs are the new playground bullies of the NFL. Mad about being chippy? Ha,  I wish we had bashed their collective faces in.

 

I'm not sure everyone gets it...

[JerseyBills]

6 hours ago, gobills404 said:

There's a fine line between between chippy/physical and dirty, and the chiefs crossed that line multiple times. I hope the Bucs wipe the floor with them.

There is a fine line , i agree.

I honestly see 1 play that was dirty, the Jones punch. 

I would have loved to see our defense slam Hill like that for example.  

[Nextmanup]

I am all about "chippy" in any sport.

It makes things a lot more interesting, and it's nice when the millionaires involved in modern sport actually get emotional about what they are doing on the field.

 

The NHL is now a big love fest and the utter antagonism and grit that used to be a part of every game is long gone from the league now, except on occasion.

 

Remember the good old days of hearing about an altercation in the pre-game warmup!?  2 guys talking to each other on either side of the red line, after someone shot the puck at the other team's goalie or something like that....with a buzz of "watch out on the opening face-off, this thing is going to boil over quickly tonight!"

 

I LOVED that stuff and miss it dearly.

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

34 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

There is a fine line , i agree.

I honestly see 1 play that was dirty, the Jones punch. 

I would have loved to see our defense slam Hill like that for example.  

 

I would rather have seen the O-line help Josh out just a bit instead of watching guys rush past them in pursuit of Allen over and over.

 

When you let wild dogs through the door, you don't get to yell at them for chewing up your valuables....

[Success]

I agree w/ the general sentiment.

 

I just don't like the Chiefs.

 

[ComeInPeace]

Alternative angle of the Jones altercation 

 

 

[Bferra13]

I really despise the Chiefs. That is all. They are public enemy #1 in my book.

[Figster]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

I am all about "chippy" in any sport.

It makes things a lot more interesting, and it's nice when the millionaires involved in modern sport actually get emotional about what they are doing on the field.

 

The NHL is now a big love fest and the utter antagonism and grit that used to be a part of every game is long gone from the league now, except on occasion.

 

Remember the good old days of hearing about an altercation in the pre-game warmup!?  2 guys talking to each other on either side of the red line, after someone shot the puck at the other team's goalie or something like that....with a buzz of "watch out on the opening face-off, this thing is going to boil over quickly tonight!"

 

I LOVED that stuff and miss it dearly.

 

 

The Rob Rays of hockey are truly something special.

 

Big lineman throwing hay makers at each would be awesome to watch. Coaches may not think so

 

 Allen > Mahomes in the octagon. Its not even close. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

27 minutes ago, ComeInPeace said:

Alternative angle of the Jones altercation 

 

 

 

Certainly looks like Feliciano punched him first. FWIW, I think it's all a bunch to do about nothing. Glad neither player was ejected.

[C.Biscuit97]

If you thought that game was too physical, you probably should stop watching football. I wish every game was that intense. 

[Patrick Duffy]

3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

There should have been penalties then.  If the team has to be warned, they need to feel it.

Yup, they most definitely should have. I read somewhere (can't recall the exact article and whatnot) but said the ref stated something along the lines of " don't let that happen again", something to that extent. Would post it if I could remember and find it but anyway.

 

But the official saw it and went to the KC sideline and made those statements.

52 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

If you thought that game was too physical, you probably should stop watching football. I wish every game was that intense. 

Ummm obviously it's not about the physicality of the game itself, it's about the personal foul/unsportsmanlike conduct punching players etc. Huge difference and really shouldn't have to be explained.

Edited February 4, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy

[npeartisgod]

To me, the film of the game should easily show Beane, et.al., where our holes are; and he will FILL them in the offseason. It looked fairly textbook to me --- the Chiefs' D-line rushing Josh like there was no blocking, because there was not. Josh had to play Chiefs' football instead of the other way around. We must have better protection for him to do his thing.

 

Body slamming Diggs was egregious and complete BS. Should have been an ejection.

 

And I will NEVER forgive Gronkowski for his 'roid rage body slam on an unaware and unprotected 'Tre White. He literally could have paralyzed him - or worse. And THAT Bills' team didn't have the cojones to slap the ever loving S out of Gronkowski for that move. THIS team at least would have started a scrum. Poyer would have led the charge.

 

Bucs/Chiefs and, The Weeknd? Think I'm sitting this one out. But, I do agree that the Chiefs are our new rivals. 

[LABILLBACKER]

All I know is Okafor ensured that we'll be rivals for years to come.

[SirAndrew]

4 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

Certainly looks like Feliciano punched him first. FWIW, I think it's all a bunch to do about nothing. Glad neither player was ejected.

This is what always happens in any type of fight. The guy who throws a weak half hearted punch gets knocked down by a good one from the other guy, then everyone blames the guy who delivered the better punch. 

Edited February 5, 2021 by SirAndrew

[Nester]

I like to cheer for the team that beat my teams in the playoffs. That way if they win it all I can say we lost to the best.  So much better In my mind than losing to a loser.

[JerseyBills]

3 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

Certainly looks like Feliciano punched him first. FWIW, I think it's all a bunch to do about nothing. Glad neither player was ejected.

Mongo was really slick though. Looks like he threw a little uppercut. 😂

44 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

All I know is Okafor ensured that we'll be rivals for years to come.

Hope we play them week 1 next season! 

[JerseyBills]

2 hours ago, npeartisgod said:

To me, the film of the game should easily show Beane, et.al., where our holes are; and he will FILL them in the offseason. It looked fairly textbook to me --- the Chiefs' D-line rushing Josh like there was no blocking, because there was not. Josh had to play Chiefs' football instead of the other way around. We must have better protection for him to do his thing.

 

Body slamming Diggs was egregious and complete BS. Should have been an ejection.

 

And I will NEVER forgive Gronkowski for his 'roid rage body slam on an unaware and unprotected 'Tre White. He literally could have paralyzed him - or worse. And THAT Bills' team didn't have the cojones to slap the ever loving S out of Gronkowski for that move. THIS team at least would have started a scrum. Poyer would have led the charge.

 

Bucs/Chiefs and, The Weeknd? Think I'm sitting this one out. But, I do agree that the Chiefs are our new rivals. 

Agree on everything except the Diggs slam. 

Imo that was just a DB making a physical play. 

If One of our guys did that to Hill , I'd be thrilled.  A trip to the Lombardi on the line,  play physical as heck , especially against their top guys... 

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

If you thought that game was too physical, you probably should stop watching football. I wish every game was that intense. 

couldn't agree more. I love it.. 

[without a drought]

13 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I see no banter..

I didn't either, but I thought it said banner.

[John from Riverside]

The Bills were the 2nd best team in the AFC this year.......

 

I can live with that

[97bills]

15 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

I agree, fans are entitled to feel however they want about KC, but Bills fans who are using it as a reason to root for the Bucs confuse me. We’re mad the Chiefs played a classless game, so let’s root for Brady and Gronk. Seems to make a ton of sense 😂 

Agree I don’t care if Chris Jones tea bagged mongo I’m still not rooting for Brady 

[97bills]

11 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I hadn't heard that about the refs talking to KC.  Can you provide a link or more info?

I’m guessing he heard it during the game because Tony or Jim said the refs went over to talk to the coaches about it. 

[billsfan89]

It wasn't just that the game was chippy but it was more so that the game ended up being a bit undisciplined on the Bills part.

[folz]

Look, KC was the better team and they won. No one is debating that.

 

But I don't see how anyone could watch that game and not see it as anything but the definition of unsportsmanlike behavior. Late hits, punches, unnecessary roughness, taunting, rubbing the opponents faces in it, sheer arrogance. There is a huge difference between playing aggressive, through the whistle, hitting hard, and celebrating a win and then how KC acted. I don't know, maybe respect and sportsmanship isn't important to some fans anymore. Maybe that's the Patriots factor. They have been cheating, arrogant champions for so many years that maybe that is just acceptable behavior now. I'm not saying the Chiefs were cheating---just a bit aggressive beyond the rules, which of course is really the NFL and referees faults for not keeping them in the lines---inconsistent refereeing to me is a huge problem with the league. They should call every game, every team the same all year (playoffs or not), no matter what. It just evens the playing field if you truly want integrity in the game. The rules should be the rules---but obviously, the NFL doesn't want their most watched games to be slowed down by a bunch of flags. KC knows that, they've been there before. So, I think they pulled a Seattle Legion of Boom play, by daring the refs to have to throw a flag on every play. The refs just aren't going to do that in a Championship game. The refs did go over to the sideline at one point to tell the Chiefs to reign in the over aggressive play (how many teams get that courtesy), but they never really enforced it, so KC kept it up to the last whistle.

 

It's not whining to point this out, it just is what it is. And it is a perfectly good reason for someone not wanting to root for that team---not that the alternative (for the Super Bowl at least) is any better. It's like playing a casual game of football in the neighborhood when you were younger. Everyone is just having fun, but there is the one kid who thinks he's playing in an NFL game, hitting everyone as hard as he can, talking smack, spiking the ball in someone's face when he scores, rubbing the win your face, etc. I'm sorry, but it is perfectly ok after the game to turn to one of your friends and say, "that kid is a dick." Well, KC were *****. Plain and simple. Not whining about it, just pointing it out.

 

And as for the people that are saying that the Bills should have just played the same way---matched KC's level of intensity/roughness. Well (tinfoil hat firmly on), I'm not so sure that the Bills get away with as much as KC did. If Tre suplexed Tyreek Hill, would Hill have had to beg for a penalty, or would the flag have been out instantaneously. If Jerry punched Osemele to the ground, do you think he would have gotten away with it, with no flag, ejection, or at least a fine? I find it interesting that the only fines issued in that game were to Josh, Jon, and Dion. None for Okafor or Jones' punch---none for KC at all. Yes, refs tend to hold onto their flags more during the playoffs, but I am dubious that the Bills could have gotten away with as much as KC did in that game.

 

I absolutely do not blame the loss on the refs or KC playing a little dirty...but it does make me not want to root for them. Sorry if that bothers you.

 

 

[Dr.Sack]

The Bills definitely need to turn games like AFC Champ at KC into a street fight. Instead of focusing on improving the DL & OL two units that were thoroughly outplayed the buzz word coming out of KC was “speed”. The Bills didn’t lose because they were the slower team. They lost because they could not generate a pass rush with 3 or 4 DL, and they lost because their running game stunk outside of Josh Allen scrambling for 88 yards. The Bills need to go get some dogs. Sucks a guy like Wyatt Teller is playing at a Pro Bowl level, while we saw Feliciano 6’8” 330 get manhandled by Chris Jones. Not acceptable. Ike also got dominated.

[North Buffalo]

21 hours ago, Sweats said:

We lost....can we just let it go already 

We can, but I hope the players don't.  They need to realize what it takes to win at this level. Watch hockey playoffs and the hitting and behind the scenes stuff... the amount of guys tripped up behind the play.  Bills need to know you have to play for keeps.  Do what you need until the refs call it.

[davefan66]

3 hours ago, folz said:

Look, KC was the better team and they won. No one is debating that.

 

But I don't see how anyone could watch that game and not see it as anything but the definition of unsportsmanlike behavior. Late hits, punches, unnecessary roughness, taunting, rubbing the opponents faces in it, sheer arrogance. There is a huge difference between playing aggressive, through the whistle, hitting hard, and celebrating a win and then how KC acted. I don't know, maybe respect and sportsmanship isn't important to some fans anymore. Maybe that's the Patriots factor. They have been cheating, arrogant champions for so many years that maybe that is just acceptable behavior now. I'm not saying the Chiefs were cheating---just a bit aggressive beyond the rules, which of course is really the NFL and referees faults for not keeping them in the lines---inconsistent refereeing to me is a huge problem with the league. They should call every game, every team the same all year (playoffs or not), no matter what. It just evens the playing field if you truly want integrity in the game. The rules should be the rules---but obviously, the NFL doesn't want their most watched games to be slowed down by a bunch of flags. KC knows that, they've been there before. So, I think they pulled a Seattle Legion of Boom play, by daring the refs to have to throw a flag on every play. The refs just aren't going to do that in a Championship game. The refs did go over to the sideline at one point to tell the Chiefs to reign in the over aggressive play (how many teams get that courtesy), but they never really enforced it, so KC kept it up to the last whistle.

 

It's not whining to point this out, it just is what it is. And it is a perfectly good reason for someone not wanting to root for that team---not that the alternative (for the Super Bowl at least) is any better. It's like playing a casual game of football in the neighborhood when you were younger. Everyone is just having fun, but there is the one kid who thinks he's playing in an NFL game, hitting everyone as hard as he can, talking smack, spiking the ball in someone's face when he scores, rubbing the win your face, etc. I'm sorry, but it is perfectly ok after the game to turn to one of your friends and say, "that kid is a dick." Well, KC were *****. Plain and simple. Not whining about it, just pointing it out.

 

And as for the people that are saying that the Bills should have just played the same way---matched KC's level of intensity/roughness. Well (tinfoil hat firmly on), I'm not so sure that the Bills get away with as much as KC did. If Tre suplexed Tyreek Hill, would Hill have had to beg for a penalty, or would the flag have been out instantaneously. If Jerry punched Osemele to the ground, do you think he would have gotten away with it, with no flag, ejection, or at least a fine? I find it interesting that the only fines issued in that game were to Josh, Jon, and Dion. None for Okafor or Jones' punch---none for KC at all. Yes, refs tend to hold onto their flags more during the playoffs, but I am dubious that the Bills could have gotten away with as much as KC did in that game.

 

I absolutely do not blame the loss on the refs or KC playing a little dirty...but it does make me not want to root for them. Sorry if that bothers you.

 

 

Exactly.

 

Did the Chiefs do enough to win? Yes.

 

But as Marv used to say, “act like you’ve been there before”.

 

 

[Gugny]

On 2/4/2021 at 3:15 AM, JerseyBills said:

I seen the banter on here about KC being too chippy.  

Then I go on Twitter tonight and I see 3 videos by Bills fans saying they won't root for KC because of these plays!

 

A trip to the SUPERBOWL was on the line. I'd expect the game to get a bit chippy.  I'm just tired of the whining.  This is football.

 

If the shoe was on the other foot and our guys on D are feeling confident enough to act like that, I'd be thrilled and would have spent last week researching tickets to a Bills SB game.

 

They were better and more physical and deserved the W. 

I'm tired of Bills fans whining about these type of plays!

 

Edit - Only dirty play i saw was Jones punching Mongo.

I would've loved to see our D slam Hill and hit Mahomes like that. Fair play to them,  our Bills will get revenge next year. 

 

 

 

Bills went out there and got manhandled/played like pussies. I hope the coaches and players learned something.

 

[Eastport bills]

On 2/4/2021 at 3:15 AM, JerseyBills said:

I seen the banter on here about KC being too chippy.  

Then I go on Twitter tonight and I see 3 videos by Bills fans saying they won't root for KC because of these plays!

 

A trip to the SUPERBOWL was on the line. I'd expect the game to get a bit chippy.  I'm just tired of the whining.  This is football.

 

If the shoe was on the other foot and our guys on D are feeling confident enough to act like that, I'd be thrilled and would have spent last week researching tickets to a Bills SB game.

 

They were better and more physical and deserved the W. 

I'm tired of Bills fans whining about these type of plays!

 

Edit - Only dirty play i saw was Jones punching Mongo.

I would've loved to see our D slam Hill and hit Mahomes like that. Fair play to them,  our Bills will get revenge next year. 

 

Bills fans don't need to hold back their contempt for late hits on their passport to success for the next decade. The shoe wasn't on the other foot because our guys didn't look to hurt Mahomes after the game was sealed. Mongo and Dawkins should have exacted retribution a play earlier. Do you think anyone would have tolerated this crap if it was the GOAT. His O-lineman would have been cut after the game, if they didn't stand up for their guy.Going forward, no cheap shots will go unpunished on our franchise. Sorry  if it upsets your sensitivities.