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Beane says expect no "blockbuster" moves this off season. Do you believe him?  

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  1. 1. Will Beane stay the course or make a big move?

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He said not to expect any blockbuster moves. Undoubtedly, however, if the right deal falls into his lap, he'll jump on it.

 

Beane will never tell the press what he's really planning. I'll bet he's a damn good poker player.

 

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It all depends on the options presented.  Considering how close the team has come to the Super Bowl this season, I wouldn’t entirely rule out a big move.

 

I also know that the Bills probably won’t have the flexibility cape wise to make big these big moves.  
 

I would guess that like last year, we’ll see a few mid-tier FA signings - just less in frequency.  I’m not anticipating a trade up but can see the Bills moving back a few picks in round 1 for an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick 

 

But I also would’ve be shocked to see the Bills use pick 30 for a home run hitting offensive weapon like a Travis Etienne is he’s available...who knows?

 

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I don’t think there will be any blockbusters or headline moves. 
I’d like to try and get Khalil Mack or something for our first rounder but not sure how many teams are going to fire sale their rosters. 
We have to stop stressing the cap so much there’s a million ways to manipulate the money if we need to free any up for a big player. 
It will be an extremely important draft for us though simply because we will need at least 3 players who can contribute from this class. 
You can never take anything a GM or coach says at 100% truth. 

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I think he might try to make a Diggs-like move to improve the DL with an impact player that can step in now.  Most all teams will have cap issues so trades might be possible.  
 

I think he wants near term help at OG and CB from this draft.  
 

He has to sign Allen and figure out Milano and Williams.  If he thinks he can pull some immediate help from the draft he just might trade down.  

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Me thinks he will stay the course for the most part, except he will go for one above average player at some position or another, of course I am T O M A on this because it’s just a wag... 

 

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Both Etienne & Harris will be gone by 30. There are no compelling pass rushers there so I think Brandon trades back into the 2nd for additional picks. Our running game desperately needs an overhaul. Consider Demetric Felton as 3 players in 1. You could easily get him mid to late 2nd. 

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12 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Both Etienne & Harris will be gone by 30. There are no compelling pass rushers there so I think Brandon trades back into the 2nd for additional picks. Our running game desperately needs an overhaul. Consider Demetric Felton as 3 players in 1. You could easily get him mid to late 2nd. 

I’m not so sure that both of Harris or Ettienne will be gone at 30. But I do agree that I don’t want the leftover edge rushers. The studs will be gone by then and it’s running back territory. Or it’s prime territory for a qb needy team to trade back into three first to get their qb and have the fifth year option. 

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9 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

I’m not so sure that both of Harris or Ettienne will be gone at 30. But I do agree that I don’t want the leftover edge rushers. The studs will be gone by then and it’s running back territory. Or it’s prime territory for a qb needy team to trade back into three first to get their qb and have the fifth year option. 

I’d be surprised if one of them was there at 30.

 

buffalo isn’t making a Diggs trade ( hello cap). Ther coukd be traded post draft in May/ June where a player fir player trade occurs Or it waits till august.

 

pick trades either up or down could occur. They could trade players for picks.

 

forthise wanting to hang Singletary, if buffalo was to pick a back they could just trade him for a 5th.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I think he said something similar last year. He will Be actively pursuing some guys, if I had to guess.  Something to bolster the front

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in terms of draft-day type moves, I could see them trading Dawson Knox for like a 4th round pick. 

DE, NT, CB, LB - area of need in that order. 

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I don't foresee any blockbuster action coming out of the 2020 season.  For me, at least, trading out of spots into other spots would be par for the course.  I can't think of a single scenario where I would hope for Beane to try and go yard in this draft.  BPA, in the right spots, would seem like the smartest move.  Cutting dead weight ahead of the draft and bringing in FAs (because the team could afford a few solid FAs then) would seem like a solid, complimentary move.

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Ultimately, you can't do a Diggs type of deal every offseason.

 

This offseason just feels like it needs to be methodical & focused.  Have a solid draft, and work FA to fill holes and continue to build depth instead of getting a big splash at just one position.

 

Frankly, I feel like we can stand pat at a variety of positions: WR, TE, CB and even LB.  The MAIN focus should be building the D line, followed by getting one good RB - either in FA or the draft.

 

But whatever Beane decides, I'm all in.  He has earned a great deal of trust.

 

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I don't believe him. If I were in Beane's shoes. These are my offseason moves to win the Super Bowl

Some of these numbers may be a little off, but it's the best I could find. This is what they were paid or are expected to be paid in 2021 with their cap hit.
 

Cut/Lose 

Murphy (8m) Morse (10m) Jefferson (8m), Norman (5.8M)  Winters (3m)  Kroft (5.4), Brown (9m) Yeldon (1,9m) Addison(10m), Butler(7.8M) Milano (10m) Nsekhe (5.2m) Star (8M) Devin (1.1) 

 

TOTAL 85 MILLION  This is a lot of DEAD weight.

 

ReSign

Feliciano  7m/3yrs (21) or Williams 7M/3years (21)

Josh Allen 35M/7 years (245)

 

TOTAL  42M 

 

FA Signings:

David Andrews (C) NE. 6M/4yrs (24)

Trey Hendrickson (DE) NO or Kerry Hyder (DE) SF   8m/4years (32)

Bud Dupree (OLB) Pitt or Shaq Barrett (OLB) TB, or possibly Leonard Floyd (OLB) LAR or Matt Judon (OLB) Balt. 15m/3 years (45)

Mike Hilton (CB ) Pitt.  6M/4Years (24)

Blake Bortles (QB2).  1.5M/2 years (3)

Rob Gronkowski (TE) TB - 6M/2years (12)

Make a run at Gronk to come home and win a SB for Buffalo. We have the talent to finally lure him back. He's only 32.

 

TOTAL 42.5m

 

TOTAL SIGNINGS 84.5M

 

Seems like a plan like this could be doable.

 

DRAFT

Rd #1 (30) Najee Harris or Etienne (RB) or Gary Rosseau or Quincy Roche (EDGE) or Zaven Collins if we can't sign one of the OLB's above.

Rd #2  (62) Walker Little (RT) if he's healthy or Alex Leatherwood (T)

RD#3 (93) If we don't take an RB in Rd 1, go after Trey Sermon or the hometown BUFF Patterson. If we take RB @30 then Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State if he drops

 

This team could take the AFC if they stay healthy. 

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2 hours ago, Draconator said:

I just think if the right opportunity comes along to get the Bills to a repeat Super Bowl contender, I think Beane makes the move. 


What that will be is for all of you to speculate on. 

 

I think he said "no blockbuster moves" with regard to FA.  If I remember correctly.  I think on WGR he said something like "you know me, I like to move around".

 

It would not surprise me if Beane dealt a couple of players for low-mid round picks and packaged picks and move up.  Just who those players are, will depend somewhat upon what players attract interest. 

 

Alternatively, I can see him trading OUT of the first round and into the top of the 2nd for extra picks.

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15 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

I don't believe him. If I were in Beane's shoes. These are my offseason moves.
 

Cut/Lose 

Murphy Morse, Jefferson, Norman, Winters, Kroft, Brown, Yeldon, Addison, Butler ,Milano Nsekhe

 

ReSign

Feliciano

Williams

 

FA Signings:

David Andrews (C) NE

Trey Hendrickson (DE) NO or Kerry Hyder (DE) SF

Bud Dupree (OLB) Pitt or Shaq Barrett (OLB) TB, or possibly Leonard Floyd (OLB) LAR or Matt Judon (OLB) Balt.

Mike Hilton (CB ) Pitt

Blake Bortles (QB2)

Rob Gronkowski (TE) TB - Make a run at Gronk to come home and win a SB for Buffalo. We have the talent to finally lure him back. He's only 32.

 

Draft

Rd #1 (30) Najee Harris or Etienne (RB) or Gary Rosseau or Quincy Roche (EDGE) or Zaven Collins if we can't sign one of the OLB's above.

Rd #2  (62) Walker Little (RT) if he's healthy or Alex Leatherwood (T)

RD#3 (93) If we don't take an RB in Rd 1, go after Trey Sermon or the hometown BUFF Patterson. If we take RB @30 then Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State if he drops

 

This team could take the AFC if they stay healthy. 

I applaud you for thinking this out so thoroughly. :beer:

 

This is very entertaining, and I could see Beane trying to make something like this happen. Forget Gronkowski, we don't need more old damaged players. Bortles would be a nice back-up, and I like the idea of going after David Andrews. Your defensive choices are very sexy, but that will take a lot of work and creativity, even if we made all the cap room for them.

 

There is no chance that Greg Rousseau & Quincy Roche last until the end of the first round, forget it. The same goes for Alex Leatherwood lasting to the end of the 2nd round.

Pat Freiermuth would be a reach in the first round, but it would make sense, depending on who else is left. Trey Sermon would be a good pick.

 

We shall see what happens.

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3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

I applaud you for thinking this out so thoroughly. :beer:

 

This is very entertaining, and I could see Beane trying to make something like this happen. Forget Gronkowski, we don't need more old damaged players. Bortles would be a nice back-up, and I like the idea of going after David Andrews. Your defensive choices are very sexy, but that will take a lot of work and creativity, even if we made all the cap room for them.

 

There is no chance that Greg Rousseau & Quincy Roche last until the end of the first round, forget it. The same goes for Alex Leatherwood lasting to the end of the 2nd round.

Pat Freiermuth would be a reach in the first round, but it would make sense, depending on who else is left. Trey Sermon would be a good pick.

 

We shall see what happens.

We have some extra picks to trade up. Some mocks have us taking Roche in the first and Leatherwood in the 2nd. Some have Harris and Etienne dropping to mid 2nd. 

Freiermuth is projected mid 2nd to early 3rd so one of our 5th's may help move up if he's hanging around. Getting 2 of the 3 is not unreasonable.

 

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57 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

I don't believe him. If I were in Beane's shoes. These are my offseason moves to win the Super Bowl

Some of these numbers may be a little off, but it's the best I could find. This is what they were paid or are expected to be paid in 2021 with their cap hit.
 

Cut/Lose 

Murphy (8m) Morse (10m) Jefferson (8m), Norman (5.8M)  Winters (3m)  Kroft (5.4), Brown (9m) Yeldon (1,9m) Addison(10m), Butler(7.8M) Milano (10m) Nsekhe (5.2m)

 

TOTAL 84 MILLION  This is a lot of DEAD weight.

 

ReSign

Feliciano  7m/3yrs

Williams 7M/3years

Josh Allen 28M/7 years

 

TOTAL  42M

 

FA Signings:

David Andrews (C) NE. 6M/4yrs

Trey Hendrickson (DE) NO or Kerry Hyder (DE) SF   8m/4years

Bud Dupree (OLB) Pitt or Shaq Barrett (OLB) TB, or possibly Leonard Floyd (OLB) LAR or Matt Judon (OLB) Balt. 12m/3 years

Mike Hilton (CB ) Pitt.  6M/4Years

Blake Bortles (QB2).  1.5M/2 years

Rob Gronkowski (TE) TB - 6M/2years Make a run at Gronk to come home and win a SB for Buffalo. We have the talent to finally lure him back. He's only 32.

 

TOTAL 39.5m

 

TOTAL SIGNINGS 81.5M

 

Seems like a plan like this could be doable.

 

DRAFT

Rd #1 (30) Najee Harris or Etienne (RB) or Gary Rosseau or Quincy Roche (EDGE) or Zaven Collins if we can't sign one of the OLB's above.

Rd #2  (62) Walker Little (RT) if he's healthy or Alex Leatherwood (T)

RD#3 (93) If we don't take an RB in Rd 1, go after Trey Sermon or the hometown BUFF Patterson. If we take RB @30 then Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State if he drops

 

This team could take the AFC if they stay healthy. 

I’m not sure what would be more impressive between getting Allen to sign for $17,000,000 per year below his market value or getting all those defensive players to take massive pay cuts to play in Buffalo.  If he does either, build him a statue.

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36 minutes ago, Billl said:

I’m not sure what would be more impressive between getting Allen to sign for $17,000,000 per year below his market value or getting all those defensive players to take massive pay cuts to play in Buffalo.  If he does either, build him a statue.

Allen is not getting 40m per year. 30 is about right. I figure the hometown discount of 2.  The others. Dupree was hurt. Maybe he gets 15, maybe 12. Hilton made less than 1m last year and does not have a proven track record. Judon was hurt and may have lost a step. So say we went to 15. You think these guys are worth 20? 

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4 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

Allen is not getting 40m per year. 30 is about right. I figure the hometown discount of 2.  The others. Dupree was hurt. Maybe he gets 15, maybe 12. Hilton made less than 1m last year and does not have a proven track record. Judon was hurt and may have lost a step. So say we went to 15. You think these guys are worth 20? 

Watson just signed a contract that expires in 2025 and averages $39,000,000.  Zero chance Allen signs a contract that expires in 2029 averaging $28,000,000.  Shaq Barrett is only 28 years old.  He’s already on a team playing in the Super Bowl, so he’s not going to become a free agent and take a pay cut.

 

I don’t think these guys are worth 20, but I think someone will pay them close to that.  If your true value is what 50% of the teams would pay you, then that means 16 teams are willing to overpay.  It’s why free agency is a terrible way to build a roster.

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think he said "no blockbuster moves" with regard to FA.  If I remember correctly.  I think on WGR he said something like "you know me, I like to move around".

 

It would not surprise me if Beane dealt a couple of players for low-mid round picks and packaged picks and move up.  Just who those players are, will depend somewhat upon what players attract interest. 

 

Alternatively, I can see him trading OUT of the first round and into the top of the 2nd for extra picks.

 

This seems to be his MO. Get more of those later round picks to move around in the draft. Yes, we have holes but we are still a pretty darn good team with guys who add little here but could start elsewhere. He likes to wheel and deal, but you need ammo for that. 

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4 hours ago, BillsRdue said:

I don't believe him. If I were in Beane's shoes. These are my offseason moves to win the Super Bowl

Some of these numbers may be a little off, but it's the best I could find. This is what they were paid or are expected to be paid in 2021 with their cap hit.
 

Cut/Lose 

Murphy (8m) Morse (10m) Jefferson (8m), Norman (5.8M)  Winters (3m)  Kroft (5.4), Brown (9m) Yeldon (1,9m) Addison(10m), Butler(7.8M) Milano (10m) Nsekhe (5.2m)

 

TOTAL 84 MILLION  This is a lot of DEAD weight.

 

ReSign

Feliciano  7m/3yrs

Williams 7M/3years

Josh Allen 28M/7 years

 

TOTAL  42M

 

FA Signings:

David Andrews (C) NE. 6M/4yrs

Trey Hendrickson (DE) NO or Kerry Hyder (DE) SF   8m/4years

Bud Dupree (OLB) Pitt or Shaq Barrett (OLB) TB, or possibly Leonard Floyd (OLB) LAR or Matt Judon (OLB) Balt. 12m/3 years

Mike Hilton (CB ) Pitt.  6M/4Years

Blake Bortles (QB2).  1.5M/2 years

Rob Gronkowski (TE) TB - 6M/2years Make a run at Gronk to come home and win a SB for Buffalo. We have the talent to finally lure him back. He's only 32.

 

TOTAL 39.5m

 

TOTAL SIGNINGS 81.5M

 

Seems like a plan like this could be doable.

 

DRAFT

Rd #1 (30) Najee Harris or Etienne (RB) or Gary Rosseau or Quincy Roche (EDGE) or Zaven Collins if we can't sign one of the OLB's above.

Rd #2  (62) Walker Little (RT) if he's healthy or Alex Leatherwood (T)

RD#3 (93) If we don't take an RB in Rd 1, go after Trey Sermon or the hometown BUFF Patterson. If we take RB @30 then Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State if he drops

 

This team could take the AFC if they stay healthy. 

Your yearly salaries are ridiculously low for the modern salary cap.

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6 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I think he said something similar last year. He will Be actively pursuing some guys, if I had to guess.  Something to bolster the front

7 on defense. 
 

in terms of draft-day type moves, I could see them trading Dawson Knox for like a 4th round pick. 

He loves Knox. Beane is very protective of guys he has drafted. I think the go into the year with Knox, Sweeney and then a vet. Could be Lee Smith. 

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