BillsMafi$ Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 DE Trent Murphy TE Tyler Kroft LB Matt Milano CB Josh Norman OL Ty Nsekhe OL Jon Feliciano OL Brian Winters WR Andre Roberts OL Daryl Williams QB Matt Barkley RB Taiwan Jones RB TJ Yeldon S Dean Marlowe WR Isaiah McKenzie CB Levi Wallace LB Andre Smith 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I’d make Williams a priority. The price would have to be really good for Milano. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, BillsMafi$ said: DE Trent Murphy TE Tyler Kroft LB Matt Milano CB Josh Norman OL Ty Nsekhe OL Jon Feliciano OL Brian Winters WR Andre Roberts OL Daryl Williams QB Matt Barkley RB Taiwan Jones RB TJ Yeldon S Dean Marlowe WR Isaiah McKenzie CB Levi Wallace LB Andre Smith  Would like to see the following return:  - Milano at a reasonable rate - Norman at vet min - Feliciano and Daryl Williams. Move on from Morse - Yeldon and Jones - McKenzie and Roberts 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Anyone with an OL before his name on the list needs a very close going over. Â I feel like the line can be improved up and down it. Â Not sure about Milano; I wouldn't retain him if the cost is too high. Â Â 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Cost impacts my list to some degree, but for me it is D. Williams Feliciano Wallace(backup) Milano- but he has to be at a rate Beane thinks is right.   Edited January 25, 2021 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsMafi$ said: DE Trent Murphy TE Tyler Kroft LB Matt Milano CB Josh Norman OL Ty Nsekhe OL Jon Feliciano OL Brian Winters WR Andre Roberts OL Daryl Williams QB Matt Barkley RB Taiwan Jones RB TJ Yeldon S Dean Marlowe WR Isaiah McKenzie CB Levi Wallace LB Andre Smith A purge due to the cap will see a lot of changes, unfortunately. I would like to see Milano, McKenzie,and Feliciano (at center) resigned. I would move on from Morse. He is a finesse player and doesn't hold up well against game wrecking DTs. We need some big uglies up front. I think Roberts is done, and D Williams will cost too much to keep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Anyone who has seen the difference in statistical production of our defense with and without Milano — last night not withstanding — can see he should be a top priority to re-sign. Many Bills fans are way too willing to let him walk, and many more mistakenly think he’d be easy to replace.  Re-sign Milano, Feliciano, Williams. Tender Wallace and see if you can get McKenzie and Marlowe back for cheap. Everyone else can walk. 5 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Williams and Mongo priorities Milano- him, Tra, poyer, Hyde untouchable wallace, Norman, Mackenzie -any or all at right price get me edge, Rb, Cb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I think we won’t see most of those guys back. McKenzie feliciano marlowe wallace  I can see everyone else being let go due to performance or cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) My wish list would be;  Roberts for sure ( EVERY kick was out of the end zone....you saw the respect there ) Amazing to me no one sees his value! How many times did the Bills have a short field due to him?? Milano would be nice Feliciano and Willams Wallace at a team friendly deal....can't have enough depth there.... Edited January 25, 2021 by Kwai San 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 We are getting lots of comp picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokes84 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I wish I had a better grasp of the cap implications, but I will say that even though Milano had been a beast in previous seasons, he was not very impactful this year.  Once Klein got his head wrapped around the defense, there wasn’t much of a drop off.  I would not pay Milano big $$$.  IMO, McKenzie, Feliciano, and Marlowe are absolutely guys that need to return. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: DE Trent Murphy TE Tyler Kroft LB Matt Milano CB Josh Norman OL Ty Nsekhe OL Jon Feliciano OL Brian Winters WR Andre Roberts OL Daryl Williams QB Matt Barkley RB Taiwan Jones RB TJ Yeldon S Dean Marlowe WR Isaiah McKenzie CB Levi Wallace LB Andre Smith There are some easy re-signings of some depth guys on here at low-cost deals (Marlowe, McKenzie, Nsheki).  I also can see the Bills locking up Levi— who really came on— to a modest-size deal.  Other than that, I think they let everyone else walk, including Milano. With the lower salary cap this year, I think we will see the market flooded with more guys willing to do 1-year prove it deals. So there could be some cheap FA stop-gap signings we could make. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 My thoughts  Resign/Tender: Roberts - Extremely valuable to our Special Teams Milano - My second most important FA resign Williams - My most important FA resign Wallace - I believe is an RFA McKenzie - Use him in motion, jet sweeps, could be our return guy in a year or two depending on Roberts T. Jones - Special Teams Ace Marlowe - Underrated on this board. Steps in admirably when Hyde/Poyer go down and knows the system  Dont resign: Kroft - not enough impact and was scratched often Murphy - Not worth the money/invest in drafted DE Norman - Not worth the money/bring up Dane Jackson Nsekhe - Isnt needed Feliciano - Ford can replace him at RG for cheap - would sign him as a backup but I doubt he would take that little to retain Winters - Again, COULD be backup at a low value but I doubt we would get him for a price I would be ok with Barkley - Let Fromm backup and invest the money elsewhere Yeldon - I dont mind him, but this is a loaded FA class, see who sits and can be scooped up late Andre Smith (although if he could be had at the min. I would do it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Feliciano (new center) Williams Milano McKenzie Wallace  Everyone else can gtfo. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: DE Trent MurphyTE Tyler Kroft LB Matt MilanoCB Josh NormanOL Ty Nsekhe OL Jon FelicianoOL Brian Winters WR Andre Roberts OL Daryl WilliamsQB Matt BarkleyRB Taiwan Jones RB TJ Yeldon S Dean Marlowe WR Isaiah McKenzie CB Levi WallaceLB Andre Smith Work on Milano, Feliciano & Williams. They are key. Andre Roberts is a luxury, but might not be expensive. Dean Marlowe & Isaiah McKenzie are very good depth and will not be expensive. TJ Yeldon I could go either way with. He's the veteran of the group. Isn't Levi Wallace a Restricted free agent? If not, could go either way with him. We do need to improve at CB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 My priorities are: - Milano - Feliciano - Williams - McKenzie - Wallace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSH HUFF Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Keep/re-sign: Mckenzie, Williams, Boettger, Feliciano, Milano, Wallace, Marlow, Bojorquez.   #Bills free agents: QB: Barkley RB: Yeldon, Jones WR: Roberts, McKenzie TE: Kroft OL: Williams, Boettger (RFA), Feliciano, Nsekhe, Winters DE: Murphy LB: Milano, Phillips, Smith (RFA) CB: Norman, Wallace (RFA) S: Marlowe P: Corey Bojorquez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Anyone with an OL before his name on the list needs a very close going over. Â I feel like the line can be improved up and down it. Â Not sure about Milano; I wouldn't retain him if the cost is too high. Â Â Â Brian Winters is a goner..one piece we will not miss at all. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Seems to me that the only really tough calls for our UFAs will be Milano, Williams and Feliciano.   If we re-sign all of them, it could cost us at least $25 million in total.  Given that we are right at the cap now not including necessary cap space for the draft, we would need to do a lot of restructuring or cutting just to be able to bring these three back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, IBTG81 said: Feliciano (new center) Williams Milano McKenzie Wallace  Everyone else can gtfo.  My list exactly. Although I would politely ask the others to leave. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Logic said: Anyone who has seen the difference in statistical production of our defense with and without Milano — last night not withstanding — can see he should be a top priority to re-sign. Many Bills fans are way too willing to let him walk, and many more mistakenly think he’d be easy to replace.  Re-sign Milano, Feliciano, Williams. Tender Wallace and see if you can get McKenzie and Marlowe back for cheap. Everyone else can walk. I'm not sure about Milano. Watching the games it "seems" like he's good but isn't his specialty supposed to be TE coverage. We didn't stop one TE all year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, jahnyc said: Seems to me that the only really tough calls for our UFAs will be Milano, Williams and Feliciano.   If we re-sign all of them, it could cost us at least $25 million in total.  Given that we are right at the cap now not including necessary cap space for the draft, we would need to do a lot of restructuring or cutting just to be able to bring these three back. I think we can all kiss williams goodbye. Lower cap or not dude is about to get top 5 right tackle money and that’s more than likely not something we will offer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Southern Bills Fan said: I'm not sure about Milano. Watching the games it "seems" like he's good but isn't his specialty supposed to be TE coverage. We didn't stop one TE all year. He goes a good job vs RBs in coverage... TEs tend to beat him imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, jahnyc said: Seems to me that the only really tough calls for our UFAs will be Milano, Williams and Feliciano.   If we re-sign all of them, it could cost us at least $25 million in total.  Given that we are right at the cap now not including necessary cap space for the draft, we would need to do a lot of restructuring or cutting just to be able to bring these three back. True, it will be difficult to keep all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Cut Morse and give Feliciano $5m per year. Cut Brown and find a way to re-sign Williams. Those cuts and re-signings basically offset and don’t make us worse.  Losing Williams or Feliciano makes us worse.  2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Pete said: We are getting lots of comp picks From losing who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, IBTG81 said: Feliciano (new center) Williams Milano McKenzie Wallace  Everyone else can gtfo. I was thinking the same thing about Mongo. Our lack of heft at the center position was obvious last night. No matter which way they ran, the hole was not there. During pass plays, the d tackles got to Allen before he could catch the ball. It's an obvious upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: I'm not sure about Milano. Watching the games it "seems" like he's good but isn't his specialty supposed to be TE coverage. We didn't stop one TE all year. Well, I think looking at Milano's play and his effect on the defense overall strictly through the lens of tight end coverage is over-simplifying it a bit. Furthermore, the Bills DID erase Mark Andrews against the Ravens, and that was largely Milano's doing. Last night's pre-game show put up a graphic showing that in the first 10 weeks of the season, the Bills were something like 26th in points allowed. In the final six weeks of the season, they were 2nd in points allowed. To me, it's no coincidence that their period of greatly improved play lined up with Milano's return to good health. There was also the statistic that, prior to last night, they were 12-0 with Milano in the lineup and 3-3 without him. Milano is a sideline-to-sideline run defender, a quality pass defender, a good blitzer, and a generally high quality player who is just coming into the prime years of his career. He also plays a premium position in McDermott's defense. To my eyes, the difference in our defense with and without him in the lineup is night and day. I will continue to be puzzled by many Bills fans' ambivalence towards him and willingness to let him walk just because....well I'm not really sure WHY, even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 34 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said:  Would like to see the following return:  - Milano at a reasonable rate - Norman at vet min - Feliciano and Daryl Williams. Move on from Morse - Yeldon and Jones - McKenzie and Roberts This coaching staff clearly doesn't believe in Yeldon even if he is 3x better than Singletary. My priorities are Williams, Milano and Feliciano in that order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: I'm not sure about Milano. Watching the games it "seems" like he's good but isn't his specialty supposed to be TE coverage. We didn't stop one TE all year. And he didn't make a tackle on a qb blitz all year. Fundamentals were lacking for the entire linebackers. Coaching staff upgrades would be nice, but McD has his good old boy club. Edited January 25, 2021 by fasteddie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, Pete said: We are getting lots of comp picks We are getting zero comp picks. https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) DE Trent Murphy-NO TE Tyler Kroft-No, we didn't use him at all late in the season LB Matt Milano-Maybe, if the price isn't too high CB Josh Norman-No thanks OL Ty Nsekhe-Yes, he is a good backup if he comes cheap OL Jon Feliciano-No, I think he's overrated and will be overpaid come free agency. Good dude and not bad, but will be overpaid OL Brian Winters-NO WR Andre Roberts-Yes OL Daryl Williams-Yes, he has been pretty good this year and we don't have a replacement for him QB Matt Barkley-No, we should upgrade RB Taiwan Jones-Why not RB TJ Yeldon-I would, but they clearly don't like him for some reason. S Dean Marlowe-Yes WR Isaiah McKenzie-Yes, such a useful player CB Levi Wallace-Yes, will be cheap. Don't mind him as long as he isn't a full-time starter LB Andre Smith-Who cares   Cut DT Vernon Butler-Easy choice with Star coming back DT Quinton Jefferson-Major disappointment, has barely made any plays DE Mario Addison-Has done nothing to live up to his 3 year contract WR John Brown-Love the guy and would love to keep him, but the cap math probably won't work out Edited January 25, 2021 by MWK 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Wow that's a lot. First off I let Barkley go and pick up Cam Newton. Same type of quarterback as Josh Allen and definitely an upgrade over Barkley Edited January 25, 2021 by ALLEN1QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) DE Trent Murphy - WALK TE Tyler Kroft - WALK LB Matt Milano - WALK CB Josh Norman -WALK OL Ty Nsekhe - Re-sign as swing tackle OL Jon Feliciano - Re-sign as Center OL Brian Winters - WALK WR Andre Roberts - WALK OL Daryl Williams -Re-sign as RT QB Matt Barkley - WALK RB Taiwan Jones -WALK RB TJ Yeldon - WALK S Dean Marlowe - Re-sign as depth WR Isaiah McKenzie - Re-sign as WR6/Gadget/KR/PR CB Levi Wallace - Re-sign as depth LB Andre Smith - WALK  *CUTS  JOHN BROWN QUINTON JEFFERSON VERNON BUTLER MARIO ADDISON MITCH MORSE  Edited January 25, 2021 by SCBills 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I wouldn't care about the majority of the guys on this list.  Keep Milano, McKenzie, Wallace, and Williams if deal makes sense. I think Morse is overrated. If team believes Feliciano can play center keep him and release Morse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I hate the fact we can’t cover TEs, I feel that mostly Edmunds fault. Edmunds offers SO MUCH versatility but isn’t progressing much as a cover LB.  It’s crazy I’m going to say this, but I wouldn’t hate letting an over priced Milano walk and signing/drafting a ‘Big Nickel’ SS/LB hybrid since we mostly play with 2 LB.  IF they re-sign a fair priced Milano, I wonder if we could see him switch to Mike in passing situations, a true SS/LB hybrid is the 2nd LB and Edmunds takes a Lorenzo Alexander type role in the nickel.  Also, I low-key think Morse retires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 With Milano, I’d offer him a little more than he’s making now and let him walk. No way is he worth the big bucks. Edmunds moves over and we find a top-10 mike.  Williams stays only at a reasonable price.  John Brown will have to take a pay cut to stay.  bye bye to the rest of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: I'm not sure about Milano. Watching the games it "seems" like he's good but isn't his specialty supposed to be TE coverage. We didn't stop one TE all year.  Never mind the fact that we are paying Edmunds, like it or not.   If the goal is to beat the Chiefs, we can't be tying up money is not one, but two, Linebackers that can't cover tight ends.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsMafi$ said: DE Trent Murphy TE Tyler Kroft LB Matt Milano CB Josh Norman OL Ty Nsekhe OL Jon Feliciano OL Brian Winters WR Andre Roberts OL Daryl Williams QB Matt Barkley RB Taiwan Jones RB TJ Yeldon S Dean Marlowe WR Isaiah McKenzie CB Levi Wallace LB Andre Smith  The key ones in my opinion are Milano, Ty, Mongo, Roberts, D.Williams, McKenzie and Levi Wallace. That's 4 starters and 3 impactful role players or depth players (Roberts, Ty and Mac). The odds of keeping all 7 are low even if the cap is set at 195 million or above. The Bills likely are going to be able to have a budget to retain some of these players but likely not all.  If you can only retain 3 of the starters and 1-2 of the role players I would keep D.Williams above and beyond anyone else and then keep Mongo and hopefully either Milano or Wallace. I would let Milano or Wallace walk if their demands don't line up. As far as Ty, Roberts and Mac I would make a good effort to resign all three but I feel like any of them wanting more than they are worth you have to let them walk and look for cheaper options. Ideally I would love to see the cap set at 205 million and the Bills resign their players to the following deals.  Daryl Williams - 3 years 30 million Mongo 3 years 15.5 million (similar structure to Spain) Milano 3 years 24 million Levi Wallace - 2 years 12 million Ty- 1 year 3.5 million Roberts - 1 year 3.4 million Mac - 1 year 2.3 million  That would add up to 38.5 million which with a cap at 205 million would put the Bills in the need to cut about 30 million via other cuts and restructurings to fit the rookie pool and emergency money in. Butler is an easy cut that saves about 7 million and Q.Jefferson is either an easy cut that saves 7 million or a restructure that could save 3-4 million (I would more like to see him restructured.) Lee Smith is another cut that saves 2.25 million and then you have John Brown who saves another 8 million on the table or is a restructure candidate to save 2-3 million.  You also have big contracts from Mitch, Addision and Hughes that are deals that you can restructure. It will be interesting to see just if the Bills can make the cuts to Smith and Butler (saving about 9.5 million on the cap) and then make the needed restructurings to Brown, Jefferson, Mitch, Addison, and Hughes to make the cap work. More than likely they are going to have to make a cut that will hurt or let a key player or two walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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