Aussie Joe Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) We can laugh about it now, but imagine if they lose that game? A season wasted ... They( The refs) had the opportunity to get it right and they still can’t do it... Edited January 9, 2021 by Aussie Joe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 We won, yet I am still pissed about that call. Serenity now!! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, klos63 said: I doubt it was a tiny low res monitor. Just a terrible call. Then let’s blame it on how—you know when your eyes are use to brightness then you walk in a semi-dark room and it appears pitch black—let’s blame it on that. Or maybe they get hypnotized in there. Who the hell knows what’s going on? Edited January 9, 2021 by Best Williams Available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InEnemyTerritory Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: I was pacing back and forth and celebrating that it was definitely a fumble. I still can’t believe it wasn’t called that. I was doing a jig for 5 or 10 minutes while the agonizingly slow refs were deliberating. I felt that if I stopped jigging for even a second it would be a no-call. It was unsuccessful, and my legs hurt. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, K-9 said: True, but like I’ve said previously, I’m gonna tip my hat to Philip Rivers. But still, I’m highly suspect of our D’s ability to make a critical stop or two when needed most. Yea I agree with that. It was a very competent QB on the other side of the ball. Still, something questionable about how the defense played. I guess the take away is, when asked to “win” the game, the Bills defense did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: If there's so.e type of grading system for officials, this crew or at least the head official needs to be knocked down a few notches. Maybe I'm a conspiracy theorist or allegedly intoxicated, but I'm of the belief that had the game ended on that fumble a lot of revenue would have been lost from people changing the channel. Im not sure how anyone with a functional brain could watch that play and see that he didn't get up and then fumble. "Allegedly" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, K-9 said: That’s more than fair. Our D doesn’t seem to be up to championship caliber. To say the least. Imagine what the Chiefs would have done to that unit today...not to say we can’t beat them, but Josh will have to be near perfect, and Daboll much better than he was today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Poyer LITERALLY let him stand up so he could strip the ball haha absolutely blows my mind they got that call wrong It was a crazy smart play form Poyer but he might have had his hand on his back for a split second before he got up. It was close enough that I would not have overturned it either, especially when it would have ended the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fixxxer said: the replay from the endzone was irrefutable, the Colt player got up untouched and then the we forced the ball out. Still pissed about it. a friggin' shame. It was and absolutely still disgusts me and makes me mentally not as pumped up as I should be after this 1st huge playoff win. I will get over it with some beer later tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 That's why you have to freaking rout and kill a team so we don't have to deal with the screw-ups of the NFL and the refs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: "Allegedly" Never show all your cards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: If I had to guess, I think it was 100% this. They didn’t want the game to end on a replay call. This call could have ended the game either way it went. Did they want to end it on a correct call or an incorrect call is really the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: True, but like I’ve said previously, I’m gonna tip my hat to Philip Rivers. But still, I’m highly suspect of our D’s ability to make a critical stop or two when needed most. Well, they made the stop at the end of the game, and at the end of the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Simon said: It was a crazy smart play form Poyer but he might have had his hand on his back for a split second before he got up. It was close enough that I would not have overturned it either, especially when it would have ended the game. Might have...but didn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Simon said: It was a crazy smart play form Poyer but he might have had his hand on his back for a split second before he got up. It was close enough that I would not have overturned it either, especially when it would have ended the game. Were you watching on an old school tube TV? It was clear as day from the one angle Poyer hadn't touched him yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Simon said: It was a crazy smart play form Poyer but he might have had his hand on his back for a split second before he got up. It was close enough that I would not have overturned it either, especially when it would have ended the game. Disagree. There's a very clear image that shows space between Pascal's leg and the ground and space between Poyer's hand and Pascal's waist. Impossible to call in real time but crystal clear on replay, precisely the point of the replay. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, TroutDog said: He’s connected to NY while reviewing. And low-res? How would you possibly know or assume that? Terrible call nonetheless. Right, I’m guessing, but I thought they were MS Surface tablets and not TVs anymore. What’s the screen rez on a Surface? My point is we are watching from home with more detail than the people making the call, as the avg TV and HDMI beats whatever is under their hood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, FLFan said: Well, they made the stop at the end of the game, and at the end of the first half. That’s fair...I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 there should be 0 argument on this.. it was a fumble.. Was it close yes? but i saw his knee come up clear as day before he was touched.. Trash call 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langeston Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Michael1962 said: Tasker lost his ***** on the bills radio over this. That rant was nuts - he’s definitely starting to work on his acting career - might be chilly... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: Were you watching on an old school tube TV? It was clear as day from the one angle Poyer hadn't touched him yet. Or perhaps a 32” 720p TV... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said: Then let’s blame it on how—you know when your eyes are use to brightness then you walk in a semi-dark room and it appears pitch black—let’s blame it on that. Or maybe they get hypnotized in there. Who the hell knows what’s going on? The ref was afraid to make the call that ended the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Best Williams Available said: Right, I’m guessing, but I thought they were MS Surface tablets and not TVs anymore. What’s the screen rez on a Surface? My point is we are watching from home with more detail than the people making the call, as the avg TV and HDMI beats whatever is under their hood. I don’t know, I’m an iPad guy and the resolution on it is astounding. I’m sure the MS Surface is similar. Plus NYC: I expect they’re looking at huge monitors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 They should have ruled it a fumble on the field so it would be reviewed automatically without McD intervening. I thought that was basically the de facto protocol in these types of situations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 What I find interesting that up to that point refs seemed great to me. No unnecessary flags, and all 3 reviews were decided correctly (and in Bills favor). But this was clear fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, TroutDog said: I don’t know, I’m an iPad guy and the resolution on it is astounding. I’m sure the MS Surface is similar. Plus NYC: I expect they’re looking at huge monitors. You’re probably right, which makes the call more frustrating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 By the way, Poyer got robbed of a moment here because the entire NFL world should be talking about his 4-D chess play that won the game. Waiting for Pascal's leg to leave the ground...I don't even understand how he thought of that in the heat of the moment. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 As soon as that call was upheld, I thought for sure it was the end for the Bills. Then came the hail mary, and my heart couldn't take anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 He was clearly off the ground but was difficult to say with 100% certainly that Poyer's hand wasn't touching his back prior to the knee coming up off the ground.. I don't think it was, but since they called him down by contact becomes difficult to overrule if can't tell with absolute certainty he wasn't touching him . If it had been ruled a fumble, never would have been over ruled either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 That call was so obvious in every way it is unbelievable to have this happen. More unbelievable McDermott had to rush to call a TO because they weren't even going to review it. I don't understand what they are looking at. The replays showed: 1) Pascal clearly was not touched while on the ground 2) Pascal clearly got up amd his knee was well off the ground before Poyer contacted him 3) Pascal clearly fumbled while still being up and wasn't even close to being down at the point 4) Tre made a clear recovery of the fumble I mean how much more evidence do you need to overturn it?? It's almost like they let the play stand because they wanted end of game drama to ensue instead of a kneel down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Disagree. There's a very clear image that shows space between Pascal's leg and the ground and space between Poyer's hand and Pascal's waist. Impossible to call in real time but crystal clear on replay, precisely the point of the replay. I didn't believe that there was any chance whatsoever that any ref is overturning that call right there, so I only watched the initial replay and then went in the kitchen for a minute while the rest of the replay was ongoing, so I'll take your word for it. That being said, his hand was close enough to his back that I would not have overturned that call to end the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said: Why is a call like this even the responsibility of 1 guy in the field looking at a tiny low Rez monitor??? MLB sends it back to a group of people that look at it from both teams cameras at all angles then tells the ump what to do. Am I wrong about the NFL’s procedure here? Yeah, I thought there was a league official lending expert advice on close calls like that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Simon Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: They should have ruled it a fumble on the field so it would be reviewed automatically without McD intervening. I thought that was basically the de facto protocol in these types of situations? Yeah, it usually is, but I don't think anybody had the balls to throw a marker at that point in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I can't figure out how the NHL can have a room full of huge monitors and the NFL uses a 13" Magnavox. This is the only reason that the 3 blind mice couldn't see the fumble. Unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 The initial call should have been a fumble an a recovery by the Bills. There was no whistle so WTF why would they call it down by contact? After the initial blown call the play should have been whistled dead by the officials to get a good look for sure but this incompetent crew didn't do that. Thats when McD had to do their job for them!! So thats two huge mistakes right off the bat. Then the ref takes forever to make a decision. What is the point of Riveron (or whoever) in NYC ? does he make the final call or does the ref. You could clearly see that the receiver was not touched with his knee down and it was a fumble. The NFL is the only sports league that gets it wrong routinely after a clear replay shows what happened. Its also the only league where instead of officiating improving in the playoffs, its possibly worse!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: If there's so.e type of grading system for officials, this crew or at least the head official needs to be knocked down a few notches. Maybe I'm a conspiracy theorist or allegedly intoxicated, but I'm of the belief that had the game ended on that fumble a lot of revenue would have been lost from people changing the channel. Im not sure how anyone with a functional brain could watch that play and see that he didn't get up and then fumble. Al Riveron made the call. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/09/bills-hold-on-to-beat-colts-in-wild-postseason-opener/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 It was clear and obvious to me and everyone else who watched it except the one guy who made the decision to let it stand, apparently. Should have sealed the game. BUT, you have to be prepared to to overcome bad calls. Glad the team was able to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Livinginthepast said: After the initial blown call the play should have been whistled dead by the officials to get a good look for sure but this incompetent crew didn't do that Yeah they did. That's why the Bills got the TO back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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