FireChans Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) So now that Dwayne “he’s different” Haskins has all but flamed out, I think a cause for celebration is in order. Not only are the Jets going to miss out on Lawrence, but if they trade their bad QB (Darnold) and draft Fields (who will also be bad), we will get to watch the fireworks first hand twice per year until he’s an eventual backup for the Saints. This is awesome. update: HASKINS IS GOOOOOONE GO BUCKS Edited December 28, 2020 by FireChans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I would be so happy if they draft Fields. Wilson is boom or bust, and I have no idea how he translates when not throwing to wide open people at BYU. If they keep Darnold and draft Sewell, as so many seem to advocate now, that's great until 4 years from now, both Becton and Sewell want record breaking LT contracts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 No way they get rid of Darnold for the next OSU QB bust. Even the Jets wouldn't do that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I think Douglas knows better and he will keep Darnold and trade the 2nd pick into multiple picks. The Jets already have 2 additional 1st rounders due to Adams trade. I seem them getting better very quickly via FA and Draft. Miami also has multiple picks from Houston that will allow them to get good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I haven't really studied Fields yet but based on my tv exposure to him I don't like him anywhere near as much as I liked Darnold coming out. Not even sure Fields ends up as the second QB taken. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I haven't really studied Fields yet but based on my tv exposure to him I don't like him anywhere near as much as I liked Darnold coming out. Not even sure Fields ends up as the second QB taken. I can see Wilson climb over him for the second QB taken for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I watched the BYU vs. Coastal Carolina game (admittedly, my only exposure to him) and was not impressed with Wilson that day. The circumstances didn't help him, but he was nothing special that night. . . . I've watched Fields a few times, and again, nothing special. I think either is an upgrade on Darnold and I don't see the Jets drafting either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Fields is a better prospect than haskins. haskins might be the slowest qb of all time. you gotta be able to move at least a little bit. plus the wft has not done him favors with the o line and weapons. the jets have some picks and have started to put together a decent o line. get the qb some weapons and solid coaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Haskins is donezo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: The Jets focus on this site has been amusing! Keep kicking the dead horse while its down, shows class. Just because we’re in the same division, brother. We were ridiculed by the entire COUNTRY for 20 years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Fields is far better than Haskins. He is as good a thrower as Darnold ever was. Darnold can't throw under pressure and it was evident at USC. Fields reminds me most of DeShaun Watson. Fields is a better passer than Jackson but nowhere near the runner. Herbert is a much more polished passer with some run ability but not much. I'm still surprised how well he has played. I would not take Fields at #2. If I'm Joe Douglas I trade down and see what Darnold does with a better supporting cast around him. I still see him as a game manager type QB but in the right setting he can be good enough. No need to waste another pick on a QB so early. Now that said if they trade back and a QB is available later in the first round it would not be a bad idea to draft another QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 And NO WE DO NOT WANT HIM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Bomani called it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 being an Ohio State fan ive watched every snap of Fields' college career. What ive learned is, nothing. He plays with top talent at nearly every position. The 2 games he struggled in, one, im not sure what his problem was, the most recent BigTen championship game, he hurt his throwing thumb rather early. I get the hate for OSU QBs, they dont pan out in the NFL, ever. Its probably more about system and the talent around them. Id take a kid from a pro system who struggled but has the measurables (Allen) over the guy who had the best of everything and comes from a non thinking system (Spread). thats just me tho. Is Fields bad? hard to tell. Is Lawrence great? nobody really knows. I do take issue with the "media" being all in on Fields one week, then throwing him in the trash heap the week later without mentioning his injury and how it affected him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: And NO WE DO NOT WANT HIM. Well, he'll have plenty of time for strippers and purple drank now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: And NO WE DO NOT WANT HIM. that’s a strange way to spell “Get ‘er done, Beane!” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I hope he had a great time at that party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, wjag said: I hope he had a great time at that party. Well now he is a has been townie, so I hope he enjoyed himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Please NE sign him. You are destined for 20 years of ***** QB play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, wjag said: I hope he had a great time at that party. The bringing hookers to the team hotel on the road kicked it off, his lack of interest on the sideines then the party getting his Captaincy stripped then the post game media snub finally did it........... plus he sucks. Riverboat Ron has seen enough and I don't blame him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, ganesh said: I think Douglas knows better and he will keep Darnold and trade the 2nd pick into multiple picks. The Jets already have 2 additional 1st rounders due to Adams trade. I seem them getting better very quickly via FA and Draft. Miami also has multiple picks from Houston that will allow them to get good players. I agree... it’s not Darnold fault. They should look at trading down for an RG3 level haul 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtnatefootball11 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 How the heck did Washington not get anything for this guy??? I understand the he has sucked and has shown red flags off the field recently but you just release him for nothing after spending a first round pick on him not long ago?? I would be pissed if I was a Washington fan. He was a first round quarterback and has good arm talent, some team would take a flyer for late round pic. Did they not try and shop him around? Could they not get like a 5th or something for him? I'm at a loss for words. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, vtnatefootball11 said: How the heck did Washington not get anything for this guy??? I understand the he has sucked and has shown red flags off the field recently but you just release him for nothing after spending a first round pick on him not long ago?? I would be pissed if I was a Washington fan. He was a first round quarterback and has good arm talent, some team would take a flyer for late round pic. Did they not try and shop him around? Could they not get like a 5th or something for him? I'm at a loss for words. Considering the Trade Deadline long passed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Bomani called it. New England be wise to kick the tires as would any team looking for a young QB to groom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Fields is far better than Haskins. He is as good a thrower as Darnold ever was. Darnold can't throw under pressure and it was evident at USC. Fields reminds me most of DeShaun Watson. Fields is a better passer than Jackson but nowhere near the runner. Herbert is a much more polished passer with some run ability but not much. I'm still surprised how well he has played. I would not take Fields at #2. If I'm Joe Douglas I trade down and see what Darnold does with a better supporting cast around him. I still see him as a game manager type QB but in the right setting he can be good enough. No need to waste another pick on a QB so early. Now that said if they trade back and a QB is available later in the first round it would not be a bad idea to draft another QB. I wanna see what happens with Fields when he's in a bad situation that he can't walk away from. Decommited from Penn State, transferred out of Georgia when he didn't win the job, now he's going to be stuck on a bad team or sitting behind a veteran. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: How the heck did Washington not get anything for this guy??? I understand the he has sucked and has shown red flags off the field recently but you just release him for nothing after spending a first round pick on him not long ago?? I would be pissed if I was a Washington fan. He was a first round quarterback and has good arm talent, some team would take a flyer for late round pic. Did they not try and shop him around? Could they not get like a 5th or something for him? I'm at a loss for words. They tried to trade him before the deadline and their were no takers. No one wants to be stuck owning money to a problem child...he will get claimed by someone thinking they can fix him....good luck. Edited December 28, 2020 by JMF2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 There were red flags with Haskins pre-draft when his dad was making all the noise about his past coaches. I just knew it would end like this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Considering the Trade Deadline long passed. I know this sounds mean, but how do fans not know about the trade deadline? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I haven't really studied Fields yet but based on my tv exposure to him I don't like him anywhere near as much as I liked Darnold coming out. Not even sure Fields ends up as the second QB taken. Zach Wilson might be the 2nd QB taken and if so he’s someone with insane potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtnatefootball11 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Considering the Trade Deadline long passed. Of course, but why not wait until the offseason and try? If no takers then fine cut him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: They tried to trade him before the deadline and their were no takers. No one wants to be stuck owning money to a problem child...he will get claimed by someone thinking they can fix him....good luck. "Get ready Sam, Dwayne is coming for your job." ~ Adam Gase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: How the heck did Washington not get anything for this guy??? I understand the he has sucked and has shown red flags off the field recently but you just release him for nothing after spending a first round pick on him not long ago?? I would be pissed if I was a Washington fan. He was a first round quarterback and has good arm talent, some team would take a flyer for late round pic. Did they not try and shop him around? Could they not get like a 5th or something for him? I'm at a loss for words. Maybe it was this? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: Of course, but why not wait until the offseason and try? If no takers then fine cut him then. Well considering he is trash, not following rules and risking the team. Time to move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: How the heck did Washington not get anything for this guy??? I understand the he has sucked and has shown red flags off the field recently but you just release him for nothing after spending a first round pick on him not long ago?? I would be pissed if I was a Washington fan. He was a first round quarterback and has good arm talent, some team would take a flyer for late round pic. Did they not try and shop him around? Could they not get like a 5th or something for him? I'm at a loss for words. Not sure what’s confusing. The trade deadline has passed. The kid sucks and looks like he doesn’t really care about being a good pro. I hate the phrase arm talent. One of those meaningless buzz phrases people use. Edited December 28, 2020 by Bangarang 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: Of course, but why not wait until the offseason and try? If no takers then fine cut him then. I think Riverboat is trying to instill the culture there and cutting him now shows the rest of the team that there are no sacred cows. Fly right or fly away. Edited December 28, 2020 by JMF2006 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaxx Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 get r done bean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 In all honesty you have a first year coach who was diagnosed with cancer before the season began. He goes through treatments and still gives all he's got to his team, trying to build a culture they obviously haven't had in quite some time. Haskins blows his opportunity as a starter initially. Alex Smith comes in and is the comeback player of the year. Alex gets hurt opening the door for Dwayne to attempt to right his wrongs. Instead Haskins plays like crap, gets busted maskless at a stripper event b-day party violating current league protocols, gets stripped of his "Captain" status, fined $40,000, proceeds to come out and play crap again, and gets benched. In all of this the only thing I saw him say was he needed to pray and get his life right. He better make the most of his opportunity, if he even gets another. The NFL life isn't college where you can get away with things because of the talent you're facing on a weekly basis or because of all the 4 or 5 star recruits around you. Johnny Manziel can explain that to him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kangaxx said: get r done bean He is on Beanes "Not Wanted" poster in his office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 40 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: How the heck did Washington not get anything for this guy??? I understand the he has sucked and has shown red flags off the field recently but you just release him for nothing after spending a first round pick on him not long ago?? I would be pissed if I was a Washington fan. He was a first round quarterback and has good arm talent, some team would take a flyer for late round pic. Did they not try and shop him around? Could they not get like a 5th or something for him? I'm at a loss for words. You seem to be missing that the WFT couldn't "shop him around" at this point until the start of the next league year. Trade deadline passed back in early Nov. Seems pretty clear there was an aspect of "sending a message" involved. "We'd rather have your space than any contribution you might make to the team at this point - Just take your $14.4 M guaranteed, and Go" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You seem to be missing that the WFT couldn't "shop him around" at this point until the start of the next league year. Trade deadline passed back in early Nov. Seems pretty clear there was an aspect of "sending a message" involved. "We'd rather have your space than any contribution you might make to the team" I'd say he underestimated how much he pissed people off breaking covid protocols like that on a team who's HC was being treated for cancer throughout the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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